Will M6 wheels fit on a 645?

[AriciU]

Can't really figure out what "ET" means so here goes...

Regular 645 19" - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 14 - 9 x 19 Rear - ET 18

M6 wheels - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 12 - 9,5 x 19 Rear / ET 17

Do you think they'll fit? Or what is ET (offset) anyway?

[cobradav]

Can't really figure out what "ET" means so here goes...

Regular 645 19" - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 14 - 9 x 19 Rear - ET 18

M6 wheels - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 12 - 9,5 x 19 Rear / ET 17

Do you think they'll fit? Or what is ET (offset) anyway?

Looks like u never got an answer (at least not here)

Offset measured in mm (millimeters). They may fir ok but as you can see in the explaination below the M6 wheel is wider so ther should be more offset to compensate. However, unless u hit the brake disk I cannot see a problem on the outside (hitting the wheel arch).

This is from tirerack.com. Go there and they have great detail on all wheel parameters with pics.

"The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types.

Zero Offset
The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive
The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.

Negative
The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.

If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this won't work correctly. We have test fitted thousands of different vehicles for proper fitment. Our extensive database allows our sales staff to offer you the perfect fit for your vehicle."

I do like 5 spoke wheel as well but I like deep dish as well. However, I am keeping the ellipsoids for now as they are just so easy to clean and they have grown on me since I got the car.

Good luck with whtever ur choice. :thumbup:

[AriciU]

Tkz for the info. I think i'm gonna keep the ellipsoids myself. I can use those 3k i'd pay for wheels for gas or something else.

[SmoothCruise]

Tkz for the info. I think i'm gonna keep the ellipsoids myself. I can use those 3k i'd pay for wheels for gas or something else.


No man, save for that charger you've been searching for :)

Did you look at the rims Hartge made for the 645? They are beautiful. Their exhaust looks cool too. Check it out:

http://www.tuningnews.net/news/050124/hartge-645ci.php


I plan to get those rims. I also like that front grill. I know most people think it's the ugliest thing they've seen, but I think it looks cool. However, I won't get it, not yet anyways.

[AriciU]

Don't like the Hartge wheels at all. They look to much like cheap wheels that seem to be made of some sort of plastic. I think they we're drunk when they designed that front grill. It's hideous :) What charger? :)

[SmoothCruise]

Don't like the Hartge wheels at all. They look to much like cheap wheels that seem to be made of some sort of plastic. I think they we're drunk when they designed that front grill. It's hideous :) What charger? :)

No way, man, I think the pictures probably don't do it justice.

Anyways, I think the ellipsoidal rims are perfect for the 645 in terms of looks. The reason is the body of the 645 has subtle lines and curves. There's no sharp and dominant features, it's a rather smooth flowing body and any 'spokey' wheels would look out of place. That's why I think the M6 rims look odd on the M6 body.

I just like the Hartge wheels, because of all the 'spokey' wheels, they look the best, in my opinion, of course.

[AriciU]

What do you think about the Breyton Spirit wheels and Breyton bodykit for the 6er? Now that's the wheels i like the best for it. To bad i'd ruin them in 1 month if i'd put'em on :)

[BMW_Brand]

Don't like the Hartge wheels at all. They look to much like cheap wheels that seem to be made of some sort of plastic. I think they we're drunk when they designed that front grill. It's hideous :) What charger? :)


Don't really like the Hartge wheels either... but those M6 wheels on the other hand .... http://temerc.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/drool1.gif

[SmoothCruise]

What do you think about the Breyton Spirit wheels and Breyton bodykit for the 6er? Now that's the wheels i like the best for it. To bad i'd ruin them in 1 month if i'd put'em on :)

You'd ruin them in 1 month? I'd ruin them in 3 weeks, with my flat tire luck. I don't like the rims that much. I think it would be perfect for you, Ariciu, if you had 30 pounds of gold chains around your neck, and you made a living writing gangsta rap music. Otherwise, every single rim I've seen for the 6 is too gaudy for a car that's subtle and classy looking... except for the ellipsoidal rims. It's unfortunate, especially when you really want to personalize your car.

The breyton spoiler, looks good. I also like Hamann's non-competition front spoiler. Schnitzer has a good one too, but Hamann, Breyton, Schnitzer... all look quite similar.

I think the Racing Dynamics front spoiler and rear apron looks the best, and just a bit different if you are going for exclusivity.

If you are really going for uniqueness, go with Hartge... it sure is unique. :) (Although I do like it.)

Oh, by the way, I'd go with the Schnitzer rear spoiler. Looks classy and subtle, which is what the 645 is.

[GaryRudolph]

Personally, if you want non-gaudy wheels I'd go with the Style 218 wheels. Definately, like the look of them on the 6.

I just wish they were wider. I'm trying to find what the style 101M's look like on the 6, but haven't seen any pictures yet. It has the extra width. Just not sure about the look.

[SmoothCruise]

Personally, if you want non-gaudy wheels I'd go with the Style 218 wheels. Definately, like the look of them on the 6.

I just wish they were wider. I'm trying to find what the style 101M's look like on the 6, but haven't seen any pictures yet. It has the extra width. Just not sure about the look.


You got links for that? Wanna check them out.

[AriciU]

http://zoouz.free.fr/

You can view all BMW wheels over there. Don't like the 218's but the 101's are quite nice for a 7er. Dunno bout the 6.

[cobradav]

I am a fan of the 101 as well, but have been spoiled by the easy clean of the ellipsoids. BMW shows them now as an accessory in 20” form while the Chapman site has them in 19” at a reasonable price. BMW lists them complete with tires at over $5k. That is ludicrous. Like you, have not seen them on a 6er yet. Have seen them in pics on a 5er - looked good. And as pointed out, look sharp on a 7. I think they would give the 6er a different look, more classic - maybe a good thing especially on my silver grey

http://bmwwheels.com/bmwwheels.asp

[GaryRudolph]

I am a fan of the 101 as well, but have been spoiled by the easy clean of the ellipsoids. BMW shows them now as an accessory in 20” form while the Chapman site has them in 19” at a reasonable price. BMW lists them complete with tires at over $5k. That is ludicrous. Like you, have not seen them on a 6er yet. Have seen them in pics on a 5er - looked good. And as pointed out, look sharp on a 7. I think they would give the 6er a different look, more classic - maybe a good thing especially on my silver grey

Do you remember the link to them on a 5 series? Might give a good idea how it would look on the 6. Although, the price is a little insane for them. You can get custom made wheels for that price.

[GaryRudolph]

BTW, according to the Hartge website the Classic 2 wheels require spacers and rolling of the fenders. Not big on that idea.

Is that a result of brake clearance, or just plain fitment?

[BHR4CE1]

Can't really figure out what "ET" means so here goes...

Regular 645 19" - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 14 - 9 x 19 Rear - ET 18

M6 wheels - 8,5 x 19 Front / ET 12 - 9,5 x 19 Rear / ET 17

Do you think they'll fit? Or what is ET (offset) anyway?


Not sure if they will fit, but I recently got the word from my BMW Dealer that my M6 should be here in Mid November. I'll be selling the BRAND NEW M6 OEM wheels/tires the day it arrives (new rims/tires are already at the dealership waiting to be swapped out) so anyone that is interested...make me an offer.

I am in the Long Beach, CA area.

[Malibubimmer]

Not sure if they will fit, but I recently got the word from my BMW Dealer that my M6 should be here in Mid November. I'll be selling the BRAND NEW M6 OEM wheels/tires the day it arrives (new rims/tires are already at the dealership waiting to be swapped out) so anyone that is interested...make me an offer.

I am in the Long Beach, CA area.

Has anyone else gotten this fellow's spam PM tonight? 1 post here and he thinks he's a regular, and he's PMing others in Southern California, selling stuff.

[BHR4CE1]

Has anyone else gotten this fellow's spam PM tonight? 1 post here and he thinks he's a regular, and he's PMing others in Southern California, selling stuff.



Thank you for the warm welcome to the forum.

You might want to verify the facts before you openly accuse me of “PMing others in Southern California.” Actually, you were the only person that I “PM'd”, so I suppose it isn't Spam.

And yes, I just joined this forum tonight. This is my first BMW. What makes you assume that I think I am a "regular? Is there a rule that I can't post to the forums on my first day as a member? If so, I guess I didn’t see it.

All I said was that I had brand new OEM M6 wheels/tires for sale if anyone was interested in them since quite a few owners of 6 series cars want the M6 wheels.

SHEEEEESH, lighten up!!!!!

[Malibubimmer]

Thank you for the warm welcome to the forum.

You might want to verify the facts before you openly accuse me of “PMing others in Southern California.” Actually, you were the only person that I “PM'd”, so I suppose it isn't Spam.

And yes, I just joined this forum tonight. This is my first BMW. What makes you assume that I think I am a "regular? Is there a rule that I can't post to the forums on my first day as a member? If so, I guess I didn’t see it.

All I said was that I had brand new OEM M6 wheels/tires for sale if anyone was interested in them since quite a few owners of 6 series cars want the M6 wheels.

SHEEEEESH, lighten up!!!!!

Sir Spamalot.

[BHR4CE1]

Sir Spamalot.



Give It UP!!!!!!!!!!

[m&aman]

The wheels do fit, I had them on my 645 that I had recently turned in. It seams that Malibubimmer has some issue's after reading some of his replies to other topics.

[650iOzBoy]

The wheels do fit, I had them on my 645 that I had recently turned in. It seams that Malibubimmer has some issue's after reading some of his replies to other topics.


Of course the wheels will physically fit. But the M6 coupe's wheels have different offsets to the 645Ci/650i, and indeed the rear of the M6 convertible's offset is different to the rear of the M6 coupe's offset. Do you think these differences are random or intended by BMW? To ask if these wheels will fit is a naive question. There is more to it than "will it fit or not".

[cobradav]

Here is a pic or 2 from one of our members cars with the M6 wheels. NO issues. The variance in ET is not enough to make it a problem. Note that he is fine company with three of your Dragon Slayer Knights

And I never did respond to GaryRudolph request for link. Here it is:

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=si&img=3842

[B_73_M]

Yes it will fit perfectly. I am using it on my 645 vert.
I have even lowered it with ACS lowering springs with 10mm spacers to the rear wheel!
Have not experiance any rubbing.

[HGilmore]

Not sure if they will fit, but I recently got the word from my BMW Dealer that my M6 should be here in Mid November. I'll be selling the BRAND NEW M6 OEM wheels/tires the day it arrives (new rims/tires are already at the dealership waiting to be swapped out) so anyone that is interested...make me an offer.
:dunno: What do you want for them? I'm always leary of people that say "make me an offer", especially when they don't even have what they're selling yet. You have to have a $ amount in mind.

[chuck92103]

I think the main issue is for the M6 owners. If you plan on swapping your wheels, make darn sure the wheels you have selected have the tire pressure sensors in them. BMW switch from FTM to TPM for 07.

[BHR4CE1]

:dunno: What do you want for them? I'm always leary of people that say "make me an offer", especially when they don't even have what they're selling yet. You have to have a $ amount in mind.


Yep...$3k gets you the wheels and tires. I already have them promised to a guy here, but until I do the deal for sure, they are still available.

As soon as the new car gets here, they are taking off the OEM wheels and installing the new ones. I am putting larger wheels on the car, and I prefer chrome lips. That is why I am changing them.

[BHR4CE1]

I think the main issue is for the M6 owners. If you plan on swapping your wheels, make darn sure the wheels you have selected have the tire pressure sensors in them. BMW switch from FTM to TPM for 07.

What do FTM and TPM stand for?

[cobradav]

FTM = Flat Tire Monitor. Pre-07 system that uses the rotational speed from ABS sensors to determine that some tire has some difference (high or low) from an established set point - trying to tell you that a tire is going or is flat.

TPM = Tire Pressure monitor - '07 Models have this sensor incorporated into valve stem. Reads actual pressure and sends it to central system. The sensors MUST be included in your new rims or...... constant alarms and no monitoring.

[BHR4CE1]

FTM = Flat Tire Monitor. Pre-07 system that uses the rotational speed from ABS sensors to determine that some tire has some difference (high or low) from an established set point - trying to tell you that a tire is going or is flat.

TPM = Tire Pressure monitor - '07 Models have this sensor incorporated into valve stem. Reads actual pressure and sends it to central system. The sensors MUST be included in your new rims or...... constant alarms and no monitoring.

Ah, ok. I will mention that to the company making the new wheels. He said that he has done 3 2007 m6's so far (not convertibles) so I am sure he knows about this, but it is good to be sure.

THANK YOU for the heads up!

[Gran Turismo]

BMW switch from FTM to TPM for 07.I thought the US 6er got it already this year on MY06 models...? Well, it seems to be country dependent anyway - I've still got mine with FTM, same situation for Germany.
Dealer's comment based on their 7-Series TPM experience: "Too unreliable and tricky yet..." :dunno:

[cobradav]

I thought the US 6er got it already this year on MY06 models...? Well, it seems to be country dependent anyway - I've still got mine with FTM, same situation for Germany.
Dealer's comment based on their 7-Series TPM experience: "Too unreliable and tricky yet..." :dunno:

You could be right, but the '06 e60 manual still states FTM (do not have access to e63 manual). It was a Safety mandate here in US but do not remember when BMW started delivery. I know only recent M6 deliveries are using TPM so I still think MY07 in US is first use on e63/e64.

[HGilmore]

Ah, ok. I will mention that to the company making the new wheels. He said that he has done 3 2007 m6's so far (not convertibles) so I am sure he knows about this, but it is good to be sure
Hmmm, according to your initial post, the wheels and tires were already at the dealer, ready to go. Something's fishy here...

I'll be selling the BRAND NEW M6 OEM wheels/tires the day it arrives (new rims/tires are already at the dealership waiting to be swapped out)

[Malibubimmer]

Hmmm, according to your initial post, the wheels and tires were already at the dealer, ready to go. Something's fishy here...

I think we have another pimple-faced 15 year old pretending to be a BMW owner. He's also posted elsewhere asking how he can supercharge his M6. Apparently 510 HP is not enough for him. I think he wants 800 HP or more. Then he will feel better.

He's getting his dealer in Southern California to sell it to him for MSRP, too. :jack:

[HGilmore]

I think we have another pimple-faced 15 year old pretending to be a BMW owner. He's also posted elsewhere asking how he can supercharge his M6. Apparently 510 HP is not enough for him. I think he wants 800 HP or more. Then he will feel better.

He's getting his dealer in Southern California to sell it to him for MSRP, too. :jack:
Yep. After I read some of these posts lately, the bs flag virtually goes up in my mind. :rofl: Also, an OEM M6 is worth more than modded. Even with a wheel swap, I would never sell the originals. I would find space somewhere for them.

[650iOzBoy]

Hmmm, according to your initial post, the wheels and tires were already at the dealer, ready to go. Something's fishy here...

:stupid:

[BHR4CE1]

Hmmm, according to your initial post, the wheels and tires were already at the dealer, ready to go. Something's fishy here...

Yes, they are at the dealer, but the dealership tells me now that they can't install them on the car due to some liability issue if I don't have the tire valves installed a head of time, and that without the correct tire valves the car will show some sort of error. So now the wheel company has to install them, which means I have to pay them to put them in.

Boy, I tell you. Most of you guys on this site are amazingly un-trustworthy. Maybe you guys "tell stories" and assume everyone else does too!

Totally amazing!

PS: What the hell would I lie for? Sheesh!

[BHR4CE1]

I think we have another pimple-faced 15 year old pretending to be a BMW owner. He's also posted elsewhere asking how he can supercharge his M6. Apparently 510 HP is not enough for him. I think he wants 800 HP or more. Then he will feel better.

He's getting his dealer in Southern California to sell it to him for MSRP, too. :jack:

Boy I sure hope to run into you at a SOCAL BMW event sometime soon so I can tell you in person what a jerk you sound like! And you are a lawyer? Hard to believe!

Is it so wrong for me to ask people on this forum about supercharging my car? Isn't one of the purposes of these forums to get information from those who have "been around the block" so to speak? Or maybe in your world, you are here just to doubt everyone that isn’t in your little circle of friends?

Is there something wrong with me wanting to upgrade my car? Does it bother you personally? It sure seems like it does! And I am sorry if you paid over MSRP for your car...but I guess I got lucky. I'll try to remember to keep my bill of sale in the glove box in case I run into you anywhere. Then you can publicly apologize here on the forum.

You will know me… I will be the one asking people about how I can get my car supercharged with the money that I saved by paying MSRP.

[BHR4CE1]

Yep. After I read some of these posts lately, the bs flag virtually goes up in my mind. :rofl: Also, an OEM M6 is worth more than modded. Even with a wheel swap, I would never sell the originals. I would find space somewhere for them.


Cool, then why don't you and Malibu pool your cash and make a shrewd investment.

Buy them from me so some poor fool that didn't know any better and went ahead and modded his M6 will have to buy them back from you... at a premium.

[BHR4CE1]

Even with a wheel swap, I would never sell the originals. I would find space somewhere for them.

I thought about that too, but in the past, I have kept OEM wheels after I swapped them out with the ones I really wanted; only to get stuck with them down the road.

There are quite a few guys out there with 645's and 650's that didn't want to spend the extra cash for the M6, but would like their 6 series to look more like the M. So, now is my time to sell them.

Is that good enough for you?

[m&aman]

I thought about that too, but in the past, I have kept OEM wheels after I swapped them out with the ones I really wanted; only to get stuck with them down the road.

There are quite a few guys out there with 645's and 650's that didn't want to spend the extra cash for the M6, but would like their 6 series to look more like the M. So, now is my time to sell them.

Is that good enough for you?

Well put BHR4CE1.

[BHR4CE1]

Well put BHR4CE1.


Thank you.