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fundrive
07-22-2005, 08:46 AM
The 11th digit of the VIN number tells you at what plant the BMW is made. The codes are as follows:

A, F, G, K - Munich (GER)
B, C, D - Dingolfing (GER)
E, J - Regensberg (GER)
L - Spartanburg (USA)
N - Rosslyn (RSA)

Does anyone know why the 3 German plants have multiple letters - for example, what does it mean if a car made in Munich has an "A" designation rather than a "K" designation?

What designation is on the E90s made so far? Is there a difference between the 325 and the 330?

Thanks

dihoriul
07-22-2005, 11:56 AM
The VIN for my car is #WBA......... . Where is the car made?

fundrive
07-22-2005, 12:47 PM
I think the question is not the first digits, but the 11th and 12th digits of the VIN - what are your 11th and 12th digits?

fundrive
07-22-2005, 12:54 PM
I visited the local BMW dealer and they have 18 E90's on the lot.

Regarding the 11th and 12th digits of the VIN:

11 of them are KR - these are 330 automatics (9), 325 automatic (1), and 325 stick (1)
4 of them are KX - these are all 325 automatic
3 of them are AZ - these are all 330 stick

What do the letters mean? Are all 330 stick's with AZ as the 11th and 12th digits? Are all 325automatics with KX as those digits?

What numbers to people have with their 330 sticks?

former
07-22-2005, 01:44 PM
At my company, we do a lot of work with VINs and here is the summary that one of the folks here put together. It basically defines what means what.

Characters 1-3 are the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI).

Character 1 = Country of Origin (see partial table below)

Character 2 = Identifies manufacturer (sometimes only in conjunction with 1 & 3)

Character 3 = For the big three (GM, Ford & Chrysler), this usually identifies vehicle type (car, pickup, van, SUV)

Characters 4-8 are the Vehicle Descriptor Series (VDS) – Identifies model, body type, 2WD/4WD, engine, restraints, etc.

These are year, make and model specific, so the same characters mean completely different things for different vehicles (even among different models within the same make of the same model year)

Character 9 is the Check-Digit (Think of it as the VIN’s parity – error detecting only, not correcting. Can only be 0-9 and X)

Character 10 is the Model Year (see table below – note that it repeats as of 2011)

Character 11 is the Assembly Plant (this is assigned by the manufacturer itself)

Characters 12-17 are the Sequence / Production number (think of it as the vehicle’s serial number)

Characters 13-17 must be numeric for passenger automobiles (cars, light trucks and MPVs)


I never said it was simple...

BMW_Brand
07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
Very cool :eeps: We got the inside scoop on VIN#'s now :thumbup:

spydrz
07-22-2005, 01:55 PM
I visited the local BMW dealer and they have 18 E90's on the lot.

Regarding the 11th and 12th digits of the VIN:

11 of them are KR - these are 330 automatics (9), 325 automatic (1), and 325 stick (1)
4 of them are KX - these are all 325 automatic
3 of them are AZ - these are all 330 stick

What do the letters mean? Are all 330 stick's with AZ as the 11th and 12th digits? Are all 325automatics with KX as those digits?

What numbers to people have with their 330 sticks?

Mine's AZ.

dherzfeld
07-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Mine is KX for 325i/auto built in Munich.

fundrive
07-22-2005, 03:07 PM
Mine's AZ.
So perhaps all 330i with stick are AZ - can anyone else check and let us know?

dihoriul
07-23-2005, 09:57 AM
I have 330 stick and it's AZ.

Athos
07-23-2005, 02:19 PM
I have a 330 with a stick and it's also AZ.

obmd1
07-26-2005, 11:39 AM
6SP AZ as well

upandown
07-26-2005, 12:31 PM
kr

Billy Boy
03-03-2007, 11:12 AM
The 11th digit of the VIN number tells you at what plant the BMW is made. The codes are as follows:

A, F, G, K - Munich (GER)
B, C, D - Dingolfing (GER)
E, J - Regensberg (GER)
L - Spartanburg (USA)
N - Rosslyn (RSA)

Does anyone know why the 3 German plants have multiple letters - for example, what does it mean if a car made in Munich has an "A" designation rather than a "K" designation?

What designation is on the E90s made so far? Is there a difference between the 325 and the 330?

Thanks

Further to the above, does anyone know the BMW manufacturing plant when the 11th digit of the VIN number is V ?

jjb83
03-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Further to the above, does anyone know the BMW manufacturing plant when the 11th digit of the VIN number is V ?


+1 Does anyone know where to find the latest key for the 11th digit? "V" seems to be popular now.

Snareman
03-03-2007, 12:37 PM
My 11th digit is P. Also not on the list.

Steve Espo
03-03-2007, 12:56 PM
My 11th digit is also P and 12th is either O or 0. 335 Coupe 6 speed Euro delivery. Maybe Euro delivery cars are assigned P or is there a new assembly plant?

Snareman
03-03-2007, 12:57 PM
My 11th digit is also P and 12th is either O or 0. 335 Coupe 6 speed Euro delivery. Maybe Euro delivery cars are assigned P or is there a new assembly plant?

My 12th is 0 as well.

jmonier
03-03-2007, 02:49 PM
P is Regensburg. All 3-series Coupes and Convertibles, M3, some 3-series sedans and 1-series are made there.

3-series Sedans are also made at Munich, Leipzig and Rosslyn, South Africa. I don't know the current codes for these.

3-series wagons are made only at Munich.

5, 6, 7 series and M5, M6 are made at Dingolfing.

Billy Boy
03-04-2007, 04:44 AM
P is Regensburg. All 3-series Coupes and Convertibles, M3, some 3-series sedans and 1-series are made there.

3-series Sedans are also made at Munich, Leipzig and Rosslyn, South Africa. I don't know the current codes for these.

3-series wagons are made only at Munich.

5, 6, 7 series and M5, M6 are made at Dingolfing.


Has there been any reports of inferior quality for 3 series sedans made (assembled) in Souty Africa?

jmonier
03-04-2007, 07:35 AM
Has there been any reports of inferior quality for 3 series sedans made (assembled) in Souty Africa?

Not that I've heard. The Rosslyn plant has won quality awards.

If you order a car it will most likely come from Germany because it takes a lot longer to come from South Africa (shipped via Bmrerhaven). 325/328 on dealer lots are more likely to be South Africa cars.

As far as quality goes, I would worry as much about Leipzig (former East Germany).

okiemark
03-04-2007, 07:45 AM
Avoid Spartanburg for sure. I have been to East Germany and wonder if anyone has personal experience of bad quality from the Leipzig plant, because I felt the same pride of workmanship from the East Germans as I did from mechanics in places like Essen.

jmonier
03-04-2007, 08:51 AM
If you have to have an X5 or Z4, Spartanbug is your only choice. If not it doesn't matter.

X3 is built by a contractor in Austria. That might be one to watch.

I didn't mean to say that I was really worried abou Leipzig OR South Africa just that there's as much reason to worry about one as the other.

Billy Boy
03-08-2007, 04:49 PM
It seems that nobody can decipher the current BMW vin 11th digit to reveal the plant of manufacture of current 3 series models. I have seen models with "V" as the eleventh digit of the VIN number, and would really like to know in which plant these cars have been assembled.

jmonier
03-08-2007, 06:00 PM
I believe that V is Leipzig.

banffbimmer
03-08-2007, 09:34 PM
My Euro Delivery 330xi which was made in Munich is 'KV'

jmonier
03-08-2007, 10:54 PM
My Euro Delivery 330xi which was made in Munich is 'KV'

K is Munich. The V following is just part of the "number" and has no significance as to location.

Emission
03-08-2007, 11:45 PM
Avoid Spartanburg for sure.

From my experience, our X5 was the most reliable BMW we ever owned. Spartanburg rocks.

Ausgang
03-09-2007, 11:39 AM
In the long run our little exercise will prove pointless. We can't conclude that all of a given type of 3er come from a particular assembly plant. BMW prides itself on production line flexibility, so it is common to see the same product produced in different locations as demand dictates. As you can imagine, there is also a lot of emphasis on uniform quality at any given facility. As has already been pointed out, some vehicles are assembled in one location only. (e.g. X5)

That said, there are ratings systems which compare assembly plants to one another.

Consider also, that some of the problems associated with start-up of a new model will occur as new assembly lines are added later also. OEM's and their Tier 1 suppliers are privy to data which ranks the assembly plants distinct and seperately from the issues which arise out of component or assembly quality issues. (i.e. electric cooling fans on early E46s)

I don't have the charts handy, but when one looks at quality ratings on a plant by plant basis, it becomes clear that simply buying by brand does not guarantee excellence.

Buried in the latest Consumer Reports reliability data is an interesting glimpse into OEM quality. BMW's variability was minimal. Even though their rank was not as high as one would like it, it does show that their system is globally uniform. That sure makes it easier to move to the next level of continuous improvement.

I confess to being as nuts as you guys on this. I obtained the data on Honda's plants for a family member's recent purchase. We knew which two plants produced the vehicle, one with significantly better ratings. Yup, we wrote right on the sales order that the vehicle had to come from the assembly plant we required. :yikes:

I essentially did the same thing with my E46: I knew which plants at the time were producing which configurations, and ordered accordingly. :angel: