View Full Version : what would you pay for this MZ3 Roadster?
firedwg1
08-14-2005, 12:51 PM
Mileage 31,000 Cylinders 6 Cylinders
Body Style Convertible Transmission Manual
Doors 2 Condition Excellent
Drive Train 2WD VIN WBSCL93481LJ80781
Exterior Color Silver Listing Date August 7, 2005
Interior Color Black
Features: A/C: Front, Cruise Control, Navigation System, Power Locks, Power Steering, Remote Keyless Entry, Bucket Seats, Leather Interior, Power Seats, Airbag: Driver, Airbag: Passenger, Airbag: Side, Alarm, Anti-Lock Brakes, Fog Lights, CD Player, Premium Sound, Power Windows, Alloy Wheels
Additional Selling Points: BMW "MZ3-S54" ROADSTER Certified w/full maintenance to 11/16/07 or 100,000. Unbelievable Car w/315-hp S54 Motor. In addition to all of the std features...I have added HK Traffic Pro Navigation System (Nav/CD/AM-FM) designed for BMW, OEM Foglights, Keyless Entry/Alarm, OEM Tonneau and Windscreen, Outdoor and Indoor Dust Cover. Vehicle is standard with PS, PB, Power Door Locks, Power Windows, Analog Gauge Cluster w/Oil Temp/Outside temp. and Clock in center console, Power and Heated Leather Driver and Passenger Seats, Nappa Leather Interior, Air Conditioning/Climate Control, Tilt Steering Wheel, Cruise/Tilt, Driver and Passenger Front plus Side Air Bags. Dynamic Stability Control, Power Convertible Top, Tire Pressure Monitoring System, Hi Performance ABS, 17" Satin "M" Wheels.
Condition Description: This car has been garaged and well cared for. Will deliver within reasonable distance.
Im going to meet the guy to make an offer I thought 27,500 would be fair what do you think? He wants 33,000
KBB.com shows PP 27,120 through 25,690
phrider
08-14-2005, 01:24 PM
That VIN looks like a S54 2001 M Roadster (August 2001 build, perhaps).
They have been going for well over $33,000 in SoCal in that mileage range. KBB is useless for these models.
Some S54 M Coupes have gone for over $38,000.
It looks like the basic warranty would go to 11/16/05. Did they do the 48 month maintenance deal or is maintenance over on this one?
firedwg1
08-14-2005, 01:28 PM
I think the maintance should be over.... CPO 100kmiles should only cover the drive train but he does claim that maintenace is cover up to 100k
phrider
08-14-2005, 02:04 PM
The S54's get a special engine warranty up to 6 yrs/ 100k miles at no additional cost (because of S54 issues).
This car should still have some basic warranty left (48 months from in service date, with some exceptions). This will give you a chance to see if it has some of the common issues (the transmission shift pin problem being one of the more expensive ones).
Get a BMW dealer to give you the Vehicle History Report on this car -- and get them to explain it to you. That will give the exact expiration dates on maintenance and warranties along with showing all BMW dealer maintenance and warranty work.
Pinecone
08-14-2005, 02:47 PM
BMW dealer can also see if they have purchased BMW extended warranty and extended maintenance agreement.
If it has both $33,000 is a good price, IMO.
firedwg1
08-14-2005, 03:04 PM
BMW dealer can also see if they have purchased BMW extended warranty and extended maintenance agreement.
If it has both $33,000 is a good price, IMO.
I think i will offer him 29,500.00 to me that sounds more then fair... Now I need to sell my 2001 Z3 Roadster 3.0I do you know anyone interested it has 28k miles on it Silver/ black. $21,500 Firm
phrider
08-14-2005, 03:41 PM
If you really want it, it could get away from you at that $29.5.
Check with a BMW dealer on the status of the warranty and maintenance expiration dates -- they cannot be extended past one month BEFORE the expiration date. That could be your bargaining chip on price. Plus you'll have the warranty repair and official maintenance history for bargaining as well ("Oh, I see you didn't have the coolent flush and brake flush done.....").
PS: sent you a PM on pricing
firedwg1
08-14-2005, 04:23 PM
If you really want it, it could get away from you at that $29.5.
Check with a BMW dealer on the status of the warranty and maintenance expiration dates -- they cannot be extended past one month BEFORE the expiration date. That could be your bargaining chip on price. Plus you'll have the warranty repair and official maintenance history for bargaining as well ("Oh, I see you didn't have the coolent flush and brake flush done.....").
PS: sent you a PM on pricing
I put out a wanted sign at Creavier BMW... Im the first on the list as for this guy... if he finds another person to sell to for more then 29,500 they can have it.
Thanks for the help
firedwg1
08-16-2005, 12:32 PM
I put out a wanted sign at Creavier BMW... Im the first on the list as for this guy... if he finds another person to sell to for more then 29,500 they can have it.
Thanks for the help
Hey the owner call me back and told me that his pay off is $30,500 what do you guys think ? Im going to see the car tonight...
Let it go or buy it???
Hey the owner call me back and told me that his pay off is $30,500 what do you guys think ? Im going to see the car tonight...
Let it go or buy it???
I'd have to see it to decide. $30.5K is low for an S54 M roadster. He never said the car had no paint work, so I would assume it has had some. But again, I'd have to see it in real life and see all the VIN decals.
rjcoston
08-16-2005, 12:41 PM
If it were me, and I really wanted the car, an extra $1,000 would not be that big of a deal. It amounts to less than 4% of the cost of the car. So it depends on whether you want it or not.
firedwg1
08-16-2005, 03:05 PM
If it were me, and I really wanted the car, an extra $1,000 would not be that big of a deal. It amounts to less than 4% of the cost of the car. So it depends on whether you want it or not.
I called BMW they said it's under full warranty until Nov05 CPO until NOV07/100k with maintenance. I think 30,500 is worth it. I going tonight to see about getting the car.
phrider
08-16-2005, 05:02 PM
If it was good for 29.5 with no info on maintenance, it's certainly worth 30.5 with CPO and maintenance to Nov07/100k.
It's unlikely that you'll regret it.
RSPDiver
08-16-2005, 07:29 PM
Split the difference; offer 30k
firedwg1
08-17-2005, 10:56 PM
I got it !!! thanks for the help.... Now I have to sell my Z3 any of you guys know anyone that wants a really nice 2001 Z3 3.0I??? Sliver with black interior and wood dash/ heated seats/ power roof/ locks/Fog Bus/CD OPtion wheels... basicly most everything
28Kmiles and Stepdronic
CPO warrenty April 2007/100k miles
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