Carnauba Poll

[Spartacus_33]

Once again, let's take off the gloves, put down your PCs and rate your favorite carnubas. I talked to a guy at AutoGeek.com and he says:
"We no longer carry the Pinnacle Waxes. I felt that it was hard to justify the cost compared with P21S, when they are basically the same (same wax chemist developed the products).

Which do you prefer on DARK colors?

[Alex Baumann]

P21S
Pinnacle

[Spartacus_33]

P21S
Pinnacle
Alex, do you rate one higher than the other?

Currently, P21S is $31.95 and Pinnacle is $69.00, (several different sites). I have no clue how many applications each would yield... but those are the prices that I'm seeing.

[Alex Baumann]

I haven't used P21S, but I have read reviews of users, who are experts on detailing. The results are great.

That said, the S100 stuff (also from P21S) is the same, only different packaging ;)

My experience with Pinnacle was stunning. The richest, deepest and wettest look that I've seen till yet. You can read about my first Pinnacle encounter here http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71078

[johnnygraphic]

Pinnacle! Smells great (hey why not involve the other senses?), goes on extremely easily, gives it an 'emotional' shine. Proper auto care did a side by side comparison of an auto glaze/sealant (Menzerna FMJ) vs. Pinnacle Souveran and you CAN see the difference. http://properautocare.com/crsishin3st.html

However, differences between the waxes? Can't say since the ONLY way is to do the same hood, different spots with different waxes. Anybody up to the challenge? I'm tapped out on my detailing budget for now...

One drawback is that the Pinnacle has a tendency to attract a ton of dust! Even after about an hour, it looks like my car sat for a week. After the first wash however, the static seems to have gone away though.

Johnny

[mitch1340]

About 15 years ago I worked for a company and had to choose the best of several car polishes. They were all the same but had to justify it scientifically. My co-worker actually was the one who came up with the idea of how to do it although I wish I could take credit for it: Very simple...after polishing a car's hood, ou take a yard stick and place it perpendicular to the surface in a conrtolled light enviroment. then measure the furthest inch mark you can see clear in the reflection. that will give you some measure of the polish's reflective ability. My advice...get the cheapest one on the market.

[mwette]

Meguiar's Hi-Tech Yellow Wax

[RickR]

Harlys. Had a can left from my 1983 633csi.

[BmW745On19's]

Zymol Carbon, or if your car is black Zymol Black. Zymol Carbon is a paste wax for darker cars that helps blend the paint better too. Zymol Black is a paste that contains black pigment to even better reduce swirl marks and help with deepness and shine. They also have a Zymol Red for red cars. Zymol, in my opinion, is some of the best all natural waxes on the market. They also have many other waxes that include the Zymol Destiny and Concours Waxes, which I personally put on our BMW. Also they have a few more expensive waxes for the true car lover that has a few bucks they want to spend for hand waxing their babys. Links- Zymol Black+Red (http://www.calcarcover.com/product.aspx?id=451&cid=), Zymol Carbon (http://www.vertar.com/product.asp?P_ID=118), Zymol Concours Glaze (http://www.autoanything.com/products/product_sp.aspx?p_id=1524&se=car_care_zymol_concours_glaze), Zymol Destiny Glaze (http://www.autoanything.com/products/product_sp.aspx?p_id=1704&se=car_care_zymol_destiny_estate_glaze), Zymol Atlantique Wax (http://emmonscoachworks.com/ecommerce/shopDetails.cfm?cat=4&p=5387), and Zymol Vintage Glaze (http://www.autoanything.com/products/product_sp.aspx?p_id=2233&se=zymol_vintage_glaze)

[Desertnate]

I loved One Grand's Blitz wax before I bailed and went to Klasse.

It was pretty durable, easy to apply, and would make any car gleam once it was wearing a coat or two.

[johnnygraphic]

I loved One Grand's Blitz wax before I bailed and went to Klasse.

It was pretty durable, easy to apply, and would make any car gleam once it was wearing a coat or two.

But isn't Klasse a 'glaze' and not a true carnauba wax? Not being snotty, just trying to keep things even here.

Johnny

[Desertnate]

But isn't Klasse a 'glaze' and not a true carnauba wax? Not being snotty, just trying to keep things even here.

Johnny

You are right...Klasse products are acrylics. That is why I started off by stating my favorite carnumba is One Grand Blitz Wax.

[johnnygraphic]

You are right...Klasse products are acrylics. That is why I started off by stating my favorite carnumba is One Grand Blitz Wax.

Oh, gotcha!