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j_a_rankin
10-21-2005, 08:10 AM
I know you all know what it looks like, but I did spot this silver-blue M6 with DIST plates and no M6 badge cruising casually through Redondo Beach. The new rims and side grilles were clear give-aways. I only caught the back with my cell phone (see attachments) to prove I wasn't nuts. Quality of phone is low ... :mad: ... but it's clearly not a 645. Didn't even think to look for a composite roof until it was too late. :(
BmW745On19's
10-31-2005, 03:57 PM
That looks like an M6 and as you can tell from the rear bumper that it's a european one because the usa license plates don't fit and a european plate would. Looks nice.
chuck92103
10-31-2005, 04:24 PM
My guess is a 645 with a new apron/pipe treatment. However you said side fender light/grill as well, so maybe. :dunno:
tebbnsx
11-03-2005, 05:30 PM
Yeah, Thats not an M6 there Captain. The roof is totally carbon fiber and as you can see in your pic that roof has silver in the back.
tebbnsx
11-04-2005, 07:54 AM
The 06 650ci has small side grills as well. What he saw was NOT an M6, the biggest giveaway is the fact that the roof shot does not show carbon fiber. Sorry buddy, good try but that was not an M6.
Malibubimmer
11-08-2005, 07:13 PM
Let's be Sherlocks for a moment. No badge. Manufacturer's plates. Some M6 features. Can't really see it well, but back of roofline looks like it's not carbon fiber.

I don't think we can rule out the fact that the manufacturer (the plates, remember?) may have disguised a real M6. If so, BMW fooled everybody except j_a_rankin.

In my opinion the jury is still out. With those plates I am tending to M6.
tebbnsx
11-09-2005, 09:19 AM
Sorry, but without the Carbon fiber roof and it's obvious it does not have one even in that pic. That car is not an M6!! Most likely a 650ci.
Malibubimmer
11-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Sorry, but without the Carbon fiber roof and it's obvious it does not have one even in that pic. That car is not an M6!! Most likely a 650ci.
How do you explain the combination of (1) manufacturer's plates, (2) removed badge, (3) quad tail pipes?

In other words, if it's not an M6 what is it?

Could it be a 650i with quad pipes (mine has only dual pipes)? If so, why would the badge have been removed? There were sightings of 650is, with that badge, in the San Fernando Valley in September before the 650i reached the west coast. These were thought to be distributor cars.

Could it be an M6 prototype without the carbon fiber roof? In fact, are we certain BMW is going to import the M6 with a carbon fiber roof?

I don't think it's a 650i because that doesn't explain lack of badging or quad pipes.
Reefminis
11-10-2005, 05:17 AM
Now its possible that it is a 645 that has been given the "M6" treatment............but........and here comes 2 points..........1) don't you think if BMW was testing a M6 in the US that they might consider painting the one "real" telltale part on the car (all the rest of the unique features can be added to a 645)??? 2) AFAIK you can only get a 6 coupe in the US WITH a sunroof.....as far as I can see, that car does not have one.

I believe it to be indeed an M6.
tebbnsx
11-12-2005, 08:32 AM
Have you ever considered that it has aftermarket exhaust with quads?? Why on Earth would they paint the gorgeous Carbon roof body color?? Just to disguise it?? I doubt that seriously. Again, my guess 650ci or 645...
Malibubimmer
11-12-2005, 08:07 PM
Have you ever considered that it has aftermarket exhaust with quads?? Why on Earth would they paint the gorgeous Carbon roof body color?? Just to disguise it?? I doubt that seriously. Again, my guess 650ci or 645...
It has manufacturer plates. Why would a company guy delete the badge and put on quads? I don't get it. These are company cars. BMW doesn't pimp them up - does it? :bigpimp:
MaxTimeOff
11-12-2005, 08:45 PM
Why on Earth would they paint the gorgeous Carbon roof body color??

If it were an option, I would take an M6 with the CF roof painted the same as the body color in a heartbeat. :dunno:
Malibubimmer
11-13-2005, 10:29 AM
If it were an option, I would take an M6 with the CF roof painted the same as the body color in a heartbeat. :dunno:
I think the carbon fiber roof looks hideous. : puke: That's why I'm going to get an M6 without a roof. Maybe painting of the roof is a USA option.
MaxTimeOff
11-14-2005, 01:26 AM
That's why I'm going to get an M6 without a roof.

Waiting for the cab are ya???
Malibubimmer
11-14-2005, 05:57 PM
Waiting for the cab are ya???
:supdude:
beewang
11-14-2005, 07:35 PM
Waiting for the cab are ya???

:rolleyes: Posuers

:p
MaxTimeOff
11-14-2005, 08:45 PM
If I can just get it in a steptronic.......... :p
beewang
11-14-2005, 08:48 PM
And only if I can beat some sense into you old man.... :p
Malibubimmer
11-14-2005, 09:16 PM
Waiting for the cab are ya???


Posuers. :rolleyes:

If I can just get it in a steptronic..........

And only if I can beat some sense into you old man.... :p
You beastards. Taking cheap shots at an old man. Does it make you feel proud? And, Bee, I know you went to Oregon, but they spell it "poseurs" up there, too.
///MLover
11-14-2005, 09:30 PM
HEY thats the m6 that i saw at Irvine Bmw dealer 1 month ago... All that person does is just drive by with it...
Malibubimmer
11-14-2005, 09:49 PM
HEY thats the m6 that i saw at Irvine Bmw dealer 1 month ago... All that person does is just drive by with it...
What happened to the carbon fiber roof?
MaxTimeOff
11-15-2005, 07:41 AM
And only if I can beat some sense into you old man.... :p

Allow me to change my incontinence diaper before I respond!!
HGilmore
11-15-2005, 07:50 AM
My guess is a 645 with a new apron/pipe treatment. However you said side fender light/grill as well, so maybe. :dunno:
Isn't it possible that it is an M6. Why would that be so hard to believe?
MaxTimeOff
11-15-2005, 07:50 AM
O.K. now I feel much better, baby powder is a good thing :rofl:

Malibu....I bet I'm older than you!! By the way, that black M6 cab spy shot on the ring that's floating around looks really sharp. I had a blk/tan 645 and wouldn't mind getting another one just like it, except I'll take the V10 and SMG (no step on this one Bee!!)
dsr235
11-17-2005, 03:00 PM
Can't read license plate. But, I've been told that in some states you (meaning anyone and his brother) can get a dealers certificate which would allow them to apply for dealer plates. Dealer plates don't have the same use fee as regular plates. Its a no no, but in a high use tax state like CA you could save some money on your plate. I think in CA the anual hit is probably north of $1000 on a 6er.

This car has an EU bumper.

Most EU BMWs have no badging.

I think I read on this board somewhere that a guy in Hungary was trying to sell a 650 on the cheap, maybe this is it.

:bigpimp:
Malibubimmer
11-17-2005, 06:59 PM
Can't read license plate. But, I've been told that in some states you (meaning anyone and his brother) can get a dealers certificate which would allow them to apply for dealer plates. Dealer plates don't have the same use fee as regular plates. Its a no no, but in a high use tax state like CA you could save some money on your plate. I think in CA the anual hit is probably north of $1000 on a 6er.

This car has an EU bumper.

Most EU BMWs have no badging.

I think I read on this board somewhere that a guy in Hungary was trying to sell a 650 on the cheap, maybe this is it.

:bigpimp:
You could be right. But this car doesn't have "dealer" plates, it has "distributor" plates according to J_A_Rankin. I.e., BMW N.A. -- or Alpina. Could this be a B6??

As for avoiding paying registration fees, I don't know. My 650i's registration fee was $606.00.

(And, unlike Eliza Doolittle, this car doesn't look Hungarian.)
dsr235
11-18-2005, 10:17 PM
As for avoiding paying registration fees, I don't know. My 650i's registration fee was $606.00.

Is that it? Doesn't CA have a anual use tax that is 1%-2% of MSRP. I lived in NPB for a while and kept my cars registered in IL (less than $100/yr) because I thought I was saving a few grand a year. More than a few of my neighbors who also owned property out of state, licensed their cars out of state as well and I remember one took an offshore delivery on a yacht to avoid the use tax.
Malibubimmer
11-18-2005, 11:06 PM
Is that it? Doesn't CA have a anual use tax that is 1%-2% of MSRP. I lived in NPB for a while and kept my cars registered in IL (less than $100/yr) because I thought I was saving a few grand a year. More than a few of my neighbors who also owned property out of state, licensed their cars out of state as well and I remember one took an offshore delivery on a yacht to avoid the use tax.
No use (ad valorem) tax on cars. Just an annual registration fee, which decreases as the car ages. (My last fee for the 3.0CS in 2001 was $25.)

The registration fee used to be 3 times the current rate. During the years of budget surpluses (late 1990s) the state cut the rate and after ballooning defecits tried to re-impose it but Gray Davis got recalled. Whatever incentive there was to violate California law, and register out of state, has been reduced.

Out of state delivery of cars (or boats - the California DMV administers that, too) to avoid sales taxes (between 8 and 8 1/2% depending on the county of residence) is no longer a way to avoid sales taxes. Once the car (or boat) comes into the state the sales tax is imposed. Some other states have compacts with California to collect it upon sales of new cars by dealers in those states (don't know about boats) and then send it to California upon proof of registration here. With the advent of computerized records it's getting harder and harder to commit this kind of economic crime. Don't worry - the statute of limitations has run on your crimes.
MaxTimeOff
11-19-2005, 08:19 PM
Out of state delivery of cars (or boats - the California DMV administers that, too) to avoid sales taxes (between 8 and 8 1/2% depending on the county of residence) is no longer a way to avoid sales taxes. Once the car (or boat) comes into the state the sales tax is imposed.

The loophole for avoiding sales tax on boats isn't gone it's just tightened up a bit. Used to be that you if you were a California resident and were purchasing a boat, you could take offshore delivery and then keep the boat in foreign waters for 51% of the first six months (along with some other requirements that are easily met) you could get an exemption on paying the sales tax. Now the time period is 1 year, not 90 days! The exemption is still there, but it takes longer and is more difficult to achieve.

I also understand that this change may not be permanent, it is in a trial phase. It could be changed or repealed if it is determined to have a significant negative impact on the various industries affected by the change.