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new guy 740il
12-21-2005, 06:24 PM
I did a search but found nothing. I just bought a 98' iL and I really wanted the Navigation but this was a better price. Can I install it from scratch? Does anyone have instructions with pics?

James
12-21-2005, 06:31 PM
I have never heard of it being done on a 7-Series, but I'm sure it's possible :thumbup:.

To give you an idea of what you're getting into here is a DIY guide on a 3-series. The procedure might be similar (if not worse) on a 7-Series. I guess it depends on how brave you are :)

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=203145

BayAreaBMWFan
12-22-2005, 01:29 AM
Join the yahoo group bmwnav. You will find almost all the information you need.
This is what I found after a cursory look:


Contents of file
prts_lst.txt
Parts List for Virgin 740iL courtsey of mgorin
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1997 E-38 740iL PARTS LIST for "Virgin" Install
(no previous NAV components)- up to build date 9/98
Note: Components Listed are for H/K HI-FI w/DSP
----------------------------------------------------

Widescreen Display 65 52 6 913 385 $1,495
Chassis 65 52 8 385 454 $ 480
Plastic Frame 65 52 8 385 450 $ 40

Wiring Harness 61 12 6 910 486 $ 450

MKIII Computer 65 90 6 915 036 $ 650
Computer Bracket 65 90 8 369 053 $ 25
Computer Frame 51 47 8 177 689 $ 12

GPS Antenna 65 90 8 375 944 $ 130
GPS Antenna Mount 65 90 8 360 725 $ 8
GPS Cable 61 12 8 377 434 $ 40

Radio 65 12 8 379 536 $ 650
CD Changer Cable 65 12 8 361 176 $ 75
Radio Bracket 65 12 8 375 189 $ 20

Dash Frame 51 16 8 175 064 $ 125
Dash Support 51 16 8 177 695 $ 7

Trunk Panel Cover 51 47 8 186 699 $ 175

Four 2.6M 10mm screws to attach the display to the chassis.
Four 2.6M 12mm screw and washers to attach the chassis to the dash frame.

----------------------------------------------------

For Models Built Between 9/98 - 01 Substitute:

Dash Frame 51 16 8 247 250 $ 125
Radio 65 12 6 902 719 $ 650
CD Changer Cable (use I-Bus Connector on Harness)

BayAreaBMWFan
12-22-2005, 11:00 AM
http://www.bimmernav.com/ has tons of info also.
I think the earlier MKI,II, III systems are easily available on Ebay for much less than the MKIV.

new guy 740il
12-22-2005, 06:47 PM
great info thanks. I still have to learn a lot of the BMW "lanuage" so bare with me.

jacksprat
12-23-2005, 12:19 PM
go aftermarket. Much cheaper and the display/interface will be better. You can get a nice headunit that will play dvd's, cd's, mp3's, AND have navigation (kenwood, Pioneer, Alpine, Eclipse). For the price you will pay for all factory parts and the labor to install it, you can have a custom sound system put in that will far surpass whatever you have right now. I did a sound system with navi in my old 98 E39, its very straight forward. Not like the newer BMW's with their i-drive making it complicated to put in aftermarket add ons.

if you want JUST navigation, an aftermarket navi kit will work perfectly.

jacksprat
12-23-2005, 12:27 PM
holy cow I just added up the prices from that list up there...over $4300 in parts alone. I can GARAUNTEE you that for $4000 you can have an AWESOME aftermarket sound system with navigation...parts AND labor included. Im talkin headunit, subwoofers, 3-way component speakers...the works.

example, my 98 E39:

Kenwood 7" widescreen dvd, cd, radio headunit
Kenwood DSP and pro logicII audio processor (uses optical audio connections)
Kenwood Navigation unit
ORION xtreme 1200 watt mono amp
XTANT 200x4 channel component amp
Diamond Audio HEX series components F/R
12" Image Dynamics IDmax v.3 subwoofer, 6inch magnet :yikes: 1000 watts rms

parts cost me about $2500. I did the labor myself. I have pics if you are interested.

BayAreaBMWFan
12-23-2005, 01:04 PM
Those are dealer list prices. You can easily find the same stuff used for 1/3rd or even less.
Ebay it.

new guy 740il
12-23-2005, 10:14 PM
holy cow I just added up the prices from that list up there...over $4300 in parts alone. I can GARAUNTEE you that for $4000 you can have an AWESOME aftermarket sound system with navigation...parts AND labor included. Im talkin headunit, subwoofers, 3-way component speakers...the works.

example, my 98 E39:

Kenwood 7" widescreen dvd, cd, radio headunit
Kenwood DSP and pro logicII audio processor (uses optical audio connections)
Kenwood Navigation unit
ORION xtreme 1200 watt mono amp
XTANT 200x4 channel component amp
Diamond Audio HEX series components F/R
12" Image Dynamics IDmax v.3 subwoofer, 6inch magnet :yikes: 1000 watts rms

parts cost me about $2500. I did the labor myself. I have pics if you are interested.


I would love to see pics!!!


I am looking into used parts first and will determine if I can come out alot cheaper if not then it's aftermarket for me. I would like to see a 740 with aftermarket navi,dvd,cd,mp3