POLL: Another Freeking Ticket! [Archive] - bimmerfest

10-31-2002, 06:29 AM

In all fairness John, the road could be one of these 30mph zones that should be at least a 40 or 45 mph zone.

I would agree if this were in a neighborhood or if it's a school zone but my area has a lot of twisties which are not considered main roads but I guess you could call them thoroughly traveled and they REALLY should be 40-45 mph, meanwhile they are only 30 . . .

They have no schools, they have double yellow lines, they have traffic lights and they have very few houses located on them, meanwhile I am just waiting for the day some cop is hanging out waiting to write tickets and I am sure I will get nailed . . .

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by johnlew
How about obey the speed limits within reason? .:dunno:

46 in a 30? You're just the kind of asshole I can't stand when I'm out walking the dog. Be glad no kids ran out into the street.

Actually it was a 4 lane road, that wasn't near any residential areas. I don't speed through residential areas, especially when people are out and about.

johnlew

10-31-2002, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by DougDogs

sounds a little bit harsh John, but accurate, if this happened in a residential zone.

Maybe, I assumed residential. Still, to me, 16 over in a 30 zone is much worse than 16 over in a 65 zone, +53% vs. +24%. And, I resent the drivers I encounter on my daily 3 mile walk with the dog that can't manage to stay around the 25-30 limit. What's the friggen rush 3 blocks from home?

fboba

10-31-2002, 06:33 AM

I've been pulled over many times and have always plead not guilty. I've been lucky because the charges have always either been dropped (so I didn't even have to go to court) or completely thrown out by the prosecutor. I've never actually gone to court and I wouldn't either. If the prosecutor had asked me to pay the full amount, I would've payed up and ended it there and then.
It's been a few years since I got pulled over but my luck ran out last week - got pulled over for doing 75 in a 65. What a joke! Of course, I'm pleading not guilty and hoping I get lucky once again. I definitely don't recommend just paying the fine. That's what they hope people will do... easy cash for them. Plus, you'd probably get points on your license.

Boba

johnlew

10-31-2002, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by TranceLvr

Actually it was a 4 lane road, that wasn't near any residential areas. I don't speed through residential areas, especially when people are out and about.

Fine, but still, if I was alone or almost alone on a 4 lane road with a 30 speed limit , I for sure be sticking to it, it's a speeding ticket waiting to happen. If it was in heavier traffic, you must have been going faster than everyone else to be singled out.

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by johnlew

Fine, but still, if I was alone or almost alone on a 4 lane road with a 30 speed limit , I for sure be sticking to it, it's a speeding ticket waiting to happen. If it was in heavier traffic, you must have been going faster than everyone else to be singled out.

There was really no one around, which is when I always get pegged. This particular stretch of road is a nice S curve and frequently everyone is going the same speed as myself. I really should have known that it was 'too quiet' and to have slowed down. :banghead:

·clyde·

10-31-2002, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by johnlew
Fine, but still, if I was alone or almost alone on a 4 lane road with a 30 speed limit , I for sure be sticking to it, it's a speeding ticket waiting to happen.

The description he gave paints a scene in my head that sounds similar to yours.

If it was in heavier traffic, you must have been going faster than everyone else to be singled out.

Quite presumptuous, John. :tsk: If there was significant traffic, they could have just as easily all been going ~45 and he was the one that got picked.

johnlew

10-31-2002, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by TranceLvr

There was really no one around, which is when I always get pegged.

In a 30 zone on a large road it's the kiss of death.

Plaz

10-31-2002, 07:12 AM

Can't judge without being familiar.

I know there are stretches of Olympic Boulevard here in LA that are 8-lanes (during rush hours when parking is restricted), with a 35mph speed limit. Almost no one does less than 50mph. :dunno:

·clyde·

10-31-2002, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Plaz
Can't judge without being familiar.

Can't judge the safety aspect. But we can make informed guesses as to the risk of being cited with the description that we've been given.

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 10:04 AM

OK, so here is an interesting twist with a question. I had already gone to traffic school last march, which means I MAY be able to take a double length class, since it hasn't been a year. If they don't let me take it then the ticket goes on my record. Here's were the problem comes in. As I stated in a previous thread, I got a ticket in Colorado a couple of weeks back. If both tickets ended up on my record, then I would be on ticket away from getting my license suspended. The question is, does anybody know if the ticket I got in Colorado counts toward my ticket count here in Illinois?

Yes, I already know. I drive like a moron and deserve whatever I get, so please spare me having to hear this from other people.

Plaz

10-31-2002, 10:13 AM

Artslinger

10-31-2002, 10:15 AM

I don't think so... I recieved a ticket in Wisconsin and it never showed up on my Illinios record. Just DWI and maybe reckless driving.:dunno:

TopazTim325

10-31-2002, 10:15 AM

Hmm... originally, I would have said "pay the fine and go to traffic school." Then I read your last thread. Damn, boy, you need to take the lead insoles out of those Kenneth Coles! :p

I got a ticket about 4 - 5 months back and actually went to contest the ticket (crossing over a solid white turn lane and going straight through the intersection... how CONTRIVED is THAT?) If IL is anything like CA, then the fine reduction thing is a big LIE. The violation fine goes down to about $20, but they assess so many "fees" that I only saved $15 over the original fine! :thumbdwn: :banghead:

At this point, I'd say hire a lawyer.

Artslinger

10-31-2002, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by TopazTim325
Hmm... originally, I would have said "pay the fine and go to traffic school." Then I read your last thread. Damn, boy, you need to take the lead insoles out of those Kenneth Coles! :p

I got a ticket about 4 - 5 months back and actually went to contest the ticket (crossing over a solid white turn lane and going straight through the intersection... how CONTRIVED is THAT?) If IL is anything like CA, then the fine reduction thing is a big LIE. The violation fine goes down to about $20, but they assess so many "fees" that I only saved $15 over the original fine! :thumbdwn: :banghead:

At this point, I'd say hire a lawyer.

Wow... what are you a Lawyer? Your insurance will not increase enough to cover the cost of a lawyer... on a measly little speeding ticket. And aren't the pionts removed from the driving record after three years?

The HACK

10-31-2002, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by johnlew
How about obey the speed limits within reason? .:dunno:

46 in a 30? You're just the kind of asshole I can't stand when I'm out walking the dog. Be glad no kids ran out into the street.

Wow, awfully judgemental when you do not know ANY of the details of the incident.:thumbdwn:

There are a lot of roads around where I live where 4-6 lane streets are purposely pegged 30 mile zones to generate revenue for the local principality. Heck, There's a stretch on the road on block west of my house where within 1 block of a business area, the speed limit goes from a posted 45 mph, down to a posted 30 with the sign semi hidden behind a big tree, and then back up to 45 mph just quarter of a mile down the road. Big 4 lane street with center divider. Another stretch of the same thing was about a mile east of where I live, speed limit drops from a posted 45 down to 25 for two blocks then back up to 45 again. And police REGULARLY patrol the area despite it being a fairly affluential and very low crime.

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Artslinger
I don't think so... I recieved a ticket in Wisconsin and it never showed up on my Illinios record. Just DWI and maybe reckless driving.:dunno:

I have been reading up on this and this should have gone on your record. Did you happen to pay cash? Perhaps it was a little under the table shady type deal.

DaveN323i

10-31-2002, 10:26 AM

Pay the fine and go to traffic school. Maybe some cute rednecks? :lmao:

TopazTim325

10-31-2002, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Artslinger

Wow... what are you a Lawyer? Your insurance will not increase enough to cover the cost of a lawyer... on a measly little speeding ticket. And aren't the pionts removed from the driving record after three years?

No, I'm not a lawyer. Cost of insurance is just 1 thing to consider here. He also stated that he's close to losing his license. How much is THAT worth?

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 10:32 AM

I have state farm and someone who works with me used to work for a state farm agency. She said since I have been with them for so long (6+ years), that the actually tickets don't matter. She did say that they would cancel me if my license got suspended. Then I would get hosed by some second level insurer.

DaveN323i

10-31-2002, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by TranceLvr
I have state farm and someone who works with me used to work for a state farm agency. She said since I have been with them for so long (6+ years), that the actually tickets don't matter. She did say that they would cancel me if my license got suspended. Then I would get hosed by some second level insurer.

Well, Trancy, that kind of answers your question, right?
Try to avoid at all costs having this in your record.

Artslinger

10-31-2002, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by TopazTim325

No, I'm not a lawyer. Cost of insurance is just 1 thing to consider here. He also stated that he's close to losing his license. How much is THAT worth?

Sorry... I missed that.

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 10:40 AM

I think I am going to go to court and try to get supervision. Either way, looks like I'll be driving like johnlew <jk> for awhile. :banghead:

Nick325xiT 5spd

10-31-2002, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by TranceLvr
I think I am going to go to court and try to get supervision. Either way, looks like I'll be driving like johnlew <jk> for awhile. :banghead:

That's what I've been doing ever since I got a 93 in a 50 two and a half years ago. It was 8AM on a sunday on a totally empty road. Didn't go to court, as they kind of frown on young, non-local, non-white guys with Jewish surnames driving 7 series BMWs. :p (Yes, it was in the hicksville section of MD.)

I'm looking forward to not having to worry so much. (March!)

TopazTim325

10-31-2002, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Artslinger
Sorry... I missed that.

No worries. :)

·clyde·

10-31-2002, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by TranceLvr
OK, so here is an interesting twist with a question. I had already gone to traffic school last march, which means I MAY be able to take a double length class, since it hasn't been a year. If they don't let me take it then the ticket goes on my record. Here's were the problem comes in. As I stated in a previous thread, I got a ticket in Colorado a couple of weeks back. If both tickets ended up on my record, then I would be on ticket away from getting my license suspended. The question is, does anybody know if the ticket I got in Colorado counts toward my ticket count here in Illinois?

If the out of state ticket shows up is nothing more than a guess until it actually does show up or enough time passes that it doesn't matter any more. You're probably best off if you assume that it will.

If, when you got the new ticket, you hadn't paid/been convicted of the out of state one yet, you may want ot go to court and ask the judge to make it so that the out of state ticket is treated the same if you do trafic school. The argument would be that since you hadn't had the opportunity to learn from your mistake yet, that if you pass (are you tested on anything or is it you sit in a room for X hours?) traffic school that both tickets be treated as one. This worked for me in Maryland many years ago.

TranceLvr

10-31-2002, 01:05 PM

Clyde, thanks for the idea.

joes325xi

11-01-2002, 09:00 AM

i was just at the NY DMV yesterday doing some registration stuff and checked my DMV records. The only incident they have filed is a speeding ticket in 1996 (when i first started driving).

I did get a ticket in North Carolina in 1998 which i just payed (it was during a "road trip" and had no intention of driving down there from maryland again). About 6 months ago i got a ticket up here in NY but wrote to the DA and had it dropped to some other charge. The point of all this is that the ONLY thing that showed up on my record was the 1996 ticket that happened in my home state. Now if i got a ticket in NJ, i'm sure that would show up at the NY DMV, but north carolina didn't contact the NY DMV. So maybe Colorado didn't bother telling illlinois about your little violation. Just trying to help, but probably getting you a little more confused. Good luck :thumbup:

dog

11-01-2002, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Nick325xiT 5spd

That's what I've been doing ever since I got a 93 in a 50 two and a half years ago. It was 8AM on a sunday on a totally empty road. Didn't go to court, as they kind of frown on young, non-local, non-white guys with Jewish surnames driving 7 series BMWs. :p (Yes, it was in the hicksville section of MD.)

I'm looking forward to not having to worry so much. (March!)

:lmao:

I went to court yesterday for my first speeding ticket in a long time. 71 in a 50. The judge was a fellow member of the tribe and proceeded to let 90% of the people off. My fine was reduced and both points were dropped for PBJ. Suh-weet!

Heeb in Hicksville = public hanging ;)