View Full Version : So...What cars were you considering other then BMW
evilfactoryowne
01-22-2002, 04:04 PM
Before I finaly brokedown and ordered my BMW I was checking out the IS300 and Corvette. I would have gone with the IS300, but I couldn't find an 02' 5 speed manual with black exterior. This was around September 01'. For weeks I was calling every dealer in town! I test drove the corvette, but that car just had too much power! I did like the heads-up display however... I decided to go with the BMW because it was a plend of everything I was loooking for...I guess that was style and functionality...
In chronological order:
A4 1.8TQ
IS300 5MT (didn't exist then)
S4
GTI 24V6MT (also didn't exist yet)
WRX wagon
I'd been a fan of BMWs for a long time but didn't even consider the 3er till after I decided I wasn't gonna get a WRX.
Other than BMW? Nothing.
Within BMW?
320i
325i/Ci
330i/Ci
Ended up with the 330Ci and couldn't be happier(except with maybe a 540i or any M!)
Mercedes clk or Audi A4 couldn't find the one and didn't like the
looks of the other. Just couldn't quite look at Infin. since I do the
part selling every day, just see too many out there and I wanted
a car not so "dime a dozen". Could have ended up with a Jetta
but it is a 4door and the look on my other half's face:( So we
ended up at the BMW dealer and he got me to take a test drive
and it's history from there!
in_d_haus
01-22-2002, 05:28 PM
Uhhh...BMW, BMW or BMW. That's it. The only time I'll move to another is if/when I buy a pickup...unless bimmer starts to produce those.
chalkem77
01-22-2002, 06:04 PM
a used NSX and an A4 for a split second .
but there really wasn't much of a contest. :D
For me, it was between:
-330i SP 5-spd
-CPO'd E36 M3 5-spd
-Audi S4
-Saab 9-5 Aero 5-spd
At the time I decided on the 330i, only 328s were available for test drives. I chose the 328i over the others based on feel (and somewhat due to my prior BMW bias). Obviously, if I had it to do over again, I would not have chosen the 330i. I probably would have even picked the S4 over the 330i. (The torque steer on the Saab, however, earns it a well-deserved last place among my final choices.)
I went to the dealership to order an M3, but decided to get a 330Ci (328Ci at the time actually), coz I didn't want to wait 2 years for a car. 328Ci's were sold out so I got one of the first 330Ci's... I had no driven a 330 when I ordered.
I really should've either waited for the M3 or bought a Boxter (or Boxter S), even a used/CPO one, instead of the 330.
--Andrew
ALEX325i
01-22-2002, 07:10 PM
Ever since I bought my first E46 (00 323Ci - had 'Vette and A4 at the same time), I knew my next car was going to be an E46 M3. Then, out of pure lack of availability, I ended up replacing my 98 Corvette by a new one (I too had the head-up display, but used it only three or four times). Four months later I picked up a 325i (I like BMWs too much to endure long periods without driving one :thumb: ). Last November, I finally found an E46 M3 available @ MSRP. Needless to say that the 'Vette is gone... :D I miss it sometimes tough... Oh, well. Too bad there isn't such thing as "perfect world"... In a perfect world I would have both... ;)
Before I chose my 330i, I seriously considered:
A41.8T
S4
(IS300 was slushie only then)
Now, even though I'm happy with the bimmer, I'm anxiously looking forward to the new:
G35
RX8
ict330xi
01-22-2002, 07:24 PM
I considered the 325i, 330i, 330xi, Saab 9-3 Viggen, Audi was ruled out because I don't have a dealer w/i 270 miles, and the IS300. My previous car was a loaded 99 Saab 9-5, which was a very well built car, but NOT a performance car. Exceedingly comfortable and somewhat sporty drive but really not in BMW class. The IS300 would bore me after a month. I am too old for that car. I considered the 9-3 viggen, I really like Saab, but they are cutting their throats on pricing. If they price em like a Bimmer then they must compete with a Bimmer in every way. They dont come close. Therefore the Saab is a poor value in my opinion. Makes me sad cause I like the cars. When I traded my 9-5 in I cried. It was my baby and as someone else on the board noted its "good karma" to take good care of your cars for the next owner. The next owner of that car will be getting in essence a new car.
I decided on the 330xi because I wanted a car that I could drive to Colorado in for a ski trip and also have a car that I could take to work during a typical midwest snowstorm without too much stress. Add in the performance and handling of the 330 and I really feel like I got the perfect car-for me!
vexed
01-22-2002, 07:24 PM
Drove a MB CLK 430, Audi TT and thought about a 530. The CLK was way overpriced and not impressive, the TT is too impractical and had major turbo lag and I concluded a 330ci was all I needed and so far I believe I made the right choice.
Researched and/or test drove:
A4
330i
325i
C240
C320
IS300
TL-S
S60
I definitely noticed that in just about every article on any of these cars other than the BMWs, the BMWs were used as the benchmark against which to measure the other cars. That counted for something. (Why not get the gold standard?)
What finally sold me was that of the ones that weren't eliminated "on paper," the Bimmer was the only one that just made me really feel good behind the wheel. It made me smile.
:thumb:
PA330i
01-22-2002, 08:20 PM
I seriously considered the IS300, for the simple reason that I had never owned a BMW and have had great experiences with Lexus (SC300). The lack of a manual transmission in IS300 at the time I made my purchase was a big factor. I also prefer the E46 styling. After taking delivery of my 330, I was really happy with my choice. I don't see myself buying anything but a bimmer for some time now (Next I want an M3).
Imola Ed
01-22-2002, 08:22 PM
Even before the new M3 made its debut, I knew I wanted one. There was nothing else to consider, in my mind. I had fond memories of my E36 M3, and the new one had a kick-ass aggro look to it.
Damon
01-22-2002, 08:24 PM
I actually had my dealer locate a 2002 S4 that was optioned out to my liking, but I didn't go through with the purchase. After driving an A4 for 2 years, several unimpressive test drives (they WERE stock, mind you), and listening to quite a list of gripes from members of a certain S4 forum, I decided I wanted to get another Bimmer instead....for $1k less. :D
Mystikal
01-22-2002, 08:44 PM
I actually had a Nissan SE-R Spec-V on order for over 2 months before I gave up on my Nissan dealer and fell for the Bimmer.
Needless to say, I'm quite content with my decision :thumb:
Although, those 17" rims, 6-speeds and in-dash 6-CD w/Rockford Fosgate 300-watt deck were tempting...:(
TD330ci
01-22-2002, 09:19 PM
Wanted a coupe, so choices were rather limited.
1. 330ci
2. 99 E36 M3
That was IT!!
The CL type-S and MB 430 were both out of the picture because of no stick and the E46 M3 was not out yet.
Now I am REALLY wanting one!! :D
Patrick
01-22-2002, 11:17 PM
I looked at these:
Volkswagen Golf Variant Trendline (2.0) - too long of a wait for factory order
Audi A4 Avant (1.8T) - would have wanted to wait for the new body style that is out now
Volkswagen Passat Variant (2.8 V6 AWD) - could only find used models at a reasonable price
Volvo V70 - FWD, diesel version used VW 2.5d engine until this model year
There you have it.
Patrick
Prelude SH
Accord V6 Coupe
Integra Type-R
MKIV Supra TT
Originally posted by vexed
Drove a MB CLK 430, Audi TT and thought about a 530. The CLK was way overpriced and not impressive, the TT is too impractical and had major turbo lag and I concluded a 330ci was all I needed and so far I believe I made the right choice.
You make me feel better knowing that the clk was not going to be
worth waiting for a dealer to find, I thought if I had to wait too long for a car I was going to go M3
Originally posted by ALEX325i
Ever since I bought my first E46 (00 323Ci - had 'Vette and A4 at the same time), I knew my next car was going to be an E46 M3. Then, out of pure lack of availability, I ended up replacing my 98 Corvette by a new one Too bad there isn't such thing as "perfect world"... In a perfect world I would have both... ;)
In a more perfect world you would also have a garage bay for
both, and the truck for towing the boat and the bikes and the
snowmobiles and.......:D
nothing else was out that I had interest in back in the summer of '99 :dunno:
MikeW
01-24-2002, 07:36 AM
Still in the process. It's not really about the BMW vs another car in it's price range. It's more of a choice between the BMW or a lower end car. Right now, the lower end choice is the VW GTI (waiting for the 24v VR6 engine).
The BMW is what I really want. I just don't think I can really justify it. The GTI would save me a couple hundred bucks a month, which make the whole project a bit more viable. It's also a bit more practical as a transportation appliance.
Then again, I really want the Bimmer.
pps-325xit
01-24-2002, 08:07 AM
Audi A4/S4 Avant
BMW 525iT
Saab 9-5 wagon
Volvo V70
Josh (PA)
01-24-2002, 08:18 AM
Thought about other BMWs
pre-owned 540 6sp, and a z3 2.5
or to save money e36 328
Looked at an a4 2.8q, c240, and Is300 but all along we knew we would be getting an e46 325i. Thought about the xi for a while but didn't think it was worth it for the 3 days of snow we get in PA anymore.
Mr. The Edge
01-24-2002, 08:34 AM
I wasn't really even in the market for a new car. I was perfectly content with the Maxima I bought just after starting my first job out of college. It was completely trouble free for 5 years. But then, I started reading and seeing all the M3 hype on the internet and fell in love with the car--both the performance and the looks. So, I got on the list in March and picked it up in October. I plan on keeping this one for a long time.
Looked at:
E46 325i
IS 300
Audi S4
Ended up getting the 325i and selling it 8 months later for an e36 M3. :)
geomax
01-24-2002, 08:35 AM
The usual suspects...A4, IS300, Volvo S60, X-Type.
Originally posted by geomax
The usual suspects...A4, IS300, Volvo S60, X-Type.
Huh. I would never have thought the Volvo S60 would be among the "usual suspects" (being FWD and all).
·clyde·
01-24-2002, 08:40 AM
About a year ago my wife and I decided to move back to Maryland from California. I had been driving a 91 Q45 for about six years. I knew that I wouldn't do anything until after our condo in LA was sold and we'd bought and moved into a house in MD. When we left LA, I left the Q with my parents and took one of their Buick LeSabres (a real long story in itself) and suffered with it until last month when I took delivery of my BMW.
Initially, I was thinking about a 96 LT4 Corvette. Then, the 330i caught my attention. I also started test driving the A4, WRX, IS300 and S2000. Driving the Q for so long had given me a certain appreciation for what a 4 door sedan could be, but I still missed the two door muscle and sports cars that I had had in the past (87 and 69 Corvettes and a few 5.0 Mustangs). Then I read something about the new MINI and put down a depoist on one in June of last year. Two days later, my wife told me that she was pregnant. Shortly after that, we settled on our new house and I wrestled with the practicality of having a MINI and a baby. So I did the natural thing...I set out in search of a cherry 99 Corvette, but couldn't find one optioned the way I wanted with low enough milage that hadn't been wrecked. Went back to the BMW and wound up placing an order for a 325xi wagon. I've still got the deposit on the MINI. With a little luck, I'll sell my wife's car, give her the wagon and buy the MINI for myself.
Oh, and the Buick is still sitting in front of my house and probably always will be. :cry: Trying to convince my parents that we should sell it and replace it with a minivan.
geomax
01-24-2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by TD
Huh. I would never have thought the Volvo S60 would be among the "usual suspects" (being FWD and all).
Ah, but now they make it with AWD.
Originally posted by geomax
Ah, but now they make it with AWD.
Can you get the AWD with a stick??
In the past, when I've "considered" Volvo, all of the AWD variants were slushie-only. You could only get a stick on some the FWD models.
If they imported an T5 wagon with a 5-spd and AWD, I might just own one.
geomax
01-24-2002, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by TD
Can you get the AWD with a stick??
Good question. Would have to look. But I believe the PCC line will have AWD, stick and lots 'o power. I've seen pictures of a touring model - but I'm not sure if they will produce it, or export it here.
Sedan:
http://www.edmunds.com/news/conceptcarspotlight/articles/42929/article.html
Touring:
http://www.infomotori.com/news/a_54_IT_445_2.asp
Faster Touring link:
http://www.auto-news.de/auto2/volvo_pcc_2.htm
Originally posted by geomax
Good question. Would have to look. But I believe the PCC line will have AWD, stick and lots 'o power. I've seen pictures of a touring model - but I'm not sure if they will produce it, or export it here.
Sedan:
http://www.edmunds.com/news/conceptcarspotlight/articles/42929/article.html
Touring:
http://www.infomotori.com/news/a_54_IT_445_2.asp
That touring looks pretty decent. What are the expected prices on the PCC line?
I liked the idea of a V70 T5 AWD 5-spd.
I guess I'll just have to pick up a used S4 Avant in a year or two.
Mr. The Edge
11-20-2004, 03:21 PM
I wasn't really even in the market for a new car. I was perfectly content with the Maxima I bought just after starting my first job out of college. It was completely trouble free for 5 years. But then, I started reading and seeing all the M3 hype on the internet and fell in love with the car--both the performance and the looks. So, I got on the list in March and picked it up in October. I plan on keeping this one for a long time.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
Mr. The Edge
11-20-2004, 03:23 PM
Can you get the AWD with a stick??
In the past, when I've "considered" Volvo, all of the AWD variants were slushie-only. You could only get a stick on some the FWD models.
If they imported an T5 wagon with a 5-spd and AWD, I might just own one.
:eek:
jvr826
11-20-2004, 05:21 PM
Got my first BMW in 1996. After some pretty terrible treatment from BMW of San Francisco, and most other dealers in the area, I decided I didn't want anything to do with a BMW. I wanted a coupe with manual transmission so the pickin's were slim back then:
Saab 900 Turbo
Acura Legend Coupe - 6-speed
Corvette
Nothing compared to the BMW, period. I really wanted an E36 M3 except that the insurance was nearly as much as the lease payment per month. I ended up getting a 328is at Concord BMW.
About 30 months into my lease I went to Europe on vacation and had an E39 520i rental for a week. That was all I needed to be hooked on the E39. I'm on my second one and intend on keeping it as long as possible.
Long (but surely familiar) story as to how I went from a 3000GT VR-4 to my first M3....but currently, as I'm more than just toying with the idea of replacing my 99 M3, an X3 has emerged as the top candidate. I looked at the following:
FX35
Murano
RX330
XC90
S4 Avant
X3 3.0 Sport
All the others were nice...they had very attractive and compelling feature sets. All of them made me go, "Hmmm....not too shabby." When we got to the X3, it was game over. Not as many gadgets as the others, not as fast as some of them, but it simply felt right. And not in an I-drank-the-BMW-Kool-Aid manner, neither. Like the M3's, it wasn't the "Best Of" in any one category...it simply smoked the others when you tally the individual scores and take it as a whole.
Dan Martin
11-21-2004, 10:43 AM
I actually went the opposite way. I was considering a 320 or 325 but decided on the TSX instead.
Scotes
11-21-2004, 03:05 PM
There are other cars out there??
Seriously, I sorta looked at the A4 and G35.
e46Christian
11-24-2004, 12:11 AM
My criteria was:
New model
RWD
German or Japanese
Manual tranny
Decent handling.
It was a no brainer.
songziou
11-24-2004, 02:36 PM
A Mercedes sedan
Matthew330Ci
11-24-2004, 07:39 PM
350Z
G35 coupe
S2000
IS300
C230 Coupe
325Ci
BlackChrome
11-24-2004, 09:49 PM
Mine were...
e35 M3/4 (too hard to find so had to give up)
e46 328i (not enough power for me :slap: )
e46 330i (next to impossible to find one with a manual and the options I wanted)
e39 540i 6-speed (00-ish) (just simply couldn't afford it :bawling: )
00/01 S4 (too many problems with the turbos on the Audi forums)
Acura TSX (I want my 'new car' with a 6 cylinder, please)
Thertorch
11-26-2004, 05:20 PM
MB 230 sport sedan
BMW 325i
Cadillac CTS 6MT.
BMW had the nicest driving feel, but it and the MB were too small. I only drove the CTS auto, and had to wait 1 full year for the 6MT.
I don't even miss the BMW. :D
wingspan
11-26-2004, 05:26 PM
In ascending order:
Toyota Camry
Passat
Accord EX
Volvo S60
Jaguar X
Acura TSX
Audi A4
MBZ C230K
Lexus IS300
325i
and the winner was...330i
schreck
11-26-2004, 10:10 PM
I didn't get to choose my car, but hey, I'm pretty lucky to have the car I do and have my parents pay for my insurance. Some day I will be able to drive the car I want. :)
markseven
11-27-2004, 09:25 AM
In ascending order:
Toyota Camry
Passat
Accord EX
Volvo S60
Jaguar X
Acura TSX
Audi A4
MBZ C230K
Lexus IS300
325i
and the winner was...330i
wingspan,
Were are looking at replacements for my wife's car, and most of the candidates are on you list:
Camry
Accord
IS300
325/328
C class
So far I think she likes the C class the best. I think it's a little small.
-Mark
nowonder
11-27-2004, 09:48 AM
I looked into the following:
Audi TT,
350z,
s2000,
T-Bird (gag!),
used 911,
boxster,
WRX.
Settled on the Z4.
--nw
wingspan
11-27-2004, 11:48 AM
wingspan,
Were are looking at replacements for my wife's car, and most of the candidates are on you list:
Camry
Accord
IS300
325/328
C class
So far I think she likes the C class the best. I think it's a little small.
-Mark
Hey Mark, yeah, I liked the C class (see other thread for more info.) I guess if I were looking today maybe I would add the new TL?
markseven
11-27-2004, 06:52 PM
Hey Mark, yeah, I liked the C class (see other thread for more info.) I guess if I were looking today maybe I would add the new TL?
Hey wingspan,
Hmmm... the TL is very nice - decisions, decisions! haha, but this is one decision making process that I'll savor :)
-Mark
pony_trekker
12-03-2004, 01:41 PM
Before I finaly brokedown and ordered my BMW I was checking out the IS300 and Corvette. I would have gone with the IS300, but I couldn't find an 02' 5 speed manual with black exterior. This was around September 01'. For weeks I was calling every dealer in town! I test drove the corvette, but that car just had too much power! I did like the heads-up display however... I decided to go with the BMW because it was a plend of everything I was loooking for...I guess that was style and functionality...
1. Acura TL. (Too boring)
2. Audi A4. (1.8t too slow; 3.0 too expensive)
3. Saab 9.3 (Interior too cheesy)
4. Saab 9.5 (Nice but didn't handle as well as the BMW. Also gas pedal and brake were too close together).
ed325i
12-03-2004, 04:08 PM
1. Acura TL. (Too boring)
2. Audi A4. (1.8t too slow; 3.0 too expensive)...
The upcoming A4 2.0T and A3 2.0T should be interesting.
Ed
Chris90
12-03-2004, 04:58 PM
I really like the look of the RL, Acura's designs seem to get better with each new model, from TSX to TL to RL. They really need some enthusiast cars though, with the NSX & S2000 going away.
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