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rost12
12-12-2002, 05:40 PM
I know, I know, we all are smart enough to make our own choices and none of us need media's opinions...

Ten Cars We'd Like To Own (from Forbes) (http://forbes.com/2002/12/09/cx_mf_1209feat.html)

"Anyone" who's a snobbish smartypants - stand up, phlease :flipoff:

in_d_haus
12-12-2002, 06:07 PM
So if ya read the article they are getting this car based upon the handling of a LARGE car. They don't mention the looks, interior, or I-drive. They obviously didn't check out how unreliable these cars are proving to be

They also picked the E46 M3 SMG :thumbup:

rost12
12-13-2002, 02:39 AM
I've read the article.
If you read the rest of the articles, they only talk about looks in the article about Lambo.

I doubt it's just the handling of a big car. It's also the design, quality and feel of a good car.

And reliability wise, there's nothing wrong with E65s/66s. They are just as "reliable" as any other 1st year benz or bimmer :)


We could debate the subtleties forever, I just wanted to point out to some particular haters who claimed E65 would fail that it didn't :p

JST
12-13-2002, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by rost12
I've read the article.
If you read the rest of the articles, they only talk about looks in the article about Lambo.

I doubt it's just the handling of a big car. It's also the design, quality and feel of a good car.

And reliability wise, there's nothing wrong with E65s/66s. They are just as "reliable" as any other 1st year benz or bimmer :)


We could debate the subtleties forever, I just wanted to point out to some particular haters who claimed E65 would fail that it didn't :p

The question of the success of the E65 is apparently a market-by-market issue.

The fact that the pictures of the E60 that we have seen show a much more conservative design than the E65 is vindication enough for me.

nate
12-13-2002, 07:47 AM
The last 7 felt uncannily solid at speeds above 100 miles per hour, but you wouldn't want to guide it through a set of mountain switchbacks at 45 mph; it would push too hard and feel like the large, heavy car that it was. This 7, in contrast, has a bevy of technological tricks that make it able to corner much more acutely without attendant understeer. And it does so without feeling even slightly harsh--smooth as glass around town, taut as a much sportier car at its limits.

:thumbup:

DrBimmer
12-13-2002, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by JST
The question of the success of the E65 is apparently a market-by-market issue.

The fact that the pictures of the E60 that we have seen show a much more conservative design than the E65 is vindication enough for me.

The E65/66 might not have done as well as they had hoped in certain markets, but it is far from a blunder. They are still selling quite well here. BMW might have poked at the line of tolerance, but they didn't smash through it.

I think that the new 5 is being toned down not necessarily becasue of a failure of the 7 series, but merely because it is a more mainstream car. The features of the 7 series have always been far more advanced than the rest of the BMW lineup. I think they just don't want to move too quickly and put too many features into it. The guy driving his $40,000 525i (or its equivalent in the next 5 series) isn't really looking for all the features and innovations that the other guy in his $75,000 745i is.

DrBimmer
12-13-2002, 08:19 AM
I have driven the new 7 extensively (My dealer has even let me borrow one of their 745Li loaners on occasion, black/black with all the options) and I have therefore had alot of behind the wheel time. This car is truly remarkable on the road. It is phenomenal on the highway- point, aim and shoot. This car takes off and does exactly what you tell it to. Also, the handling for a car that size is insane. I could not believe what I could do with that car.

Why don't I have one then? Well, a) I don't need a car that big, b) I can't afford to buy a car that big right now, and c) If I were to spend that kind of money right now, it would not be on a car.

However, if I were to win the 125 million jackpot in the Powerball this weekend, I can guarantee you my opinion would change and I would probably end up buying one. I would go for a short-body though, as the Li was just too long for my needs (I'll be driving, who cares how much leg room is in the back seat) I think I'd also pick up one of those real Z8s while I can, before they start selling the fake ones with the automatic trannies. :)

rost12
12-13-2002, 08:26 AM
Strangely enough, I was thinking yesterday about what I would do if I won a big lottery, 10+ millions or so... Of all the cars I could buy, for my everyday car there was only one candidate - 745i.
For my weekend car I'd go with Ferrari 575 Maranello, though :angel:

DrBimmer
12-13-2002, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by rost12
Strangely enough, I was thinking yesterday about what I would do if I won a big lottery, 10+ millions or so... Of all the cars I could buy, for my everyday car there was only one candidate - 745i.
For my weekend car I'd go with Ferrari 575 Maranello, though :angel:

Ferrari.... yum.

Perhaps a 996 TT to complement it? :)


Just reminded me of one of the very wealthy business owners here in RI. He owns the largest steel company in the state and as such they work on all the large construction projects. He recently leased/bought the building where an old car dealership was located to park all his equipment in the lot. In the showroom, he stores his exotic cars during the winter. He has 2 matching 996 TTs, a Ferrari or two (red!) and a Z8, just to name a few of the cars I remember seeing when I drive by. It sure is a better site than the Oldsmobile dealer that used to be there! :thumbup: