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PhotoGuy30523
01-16-2007, 07:17 PM
i am going crazy trying to find a good treatment for my convertible top, i dont know which one to get. i got this blue magic convertible top cleaner but i havent use it cause i dont know if i should, it looks cheap. but them again blue magic has not been that bad, i just dont know which is why i need help for the convertible guys in this forum

Johnz3mc
01-16-2007, 07:42 PM
Here's some reading about Raggtopp, one of the better, more popular and respected kits for convertible tops.
You'll notice there are two types of kits, one for fabric tops, one for vinyl.

http://www.autogeek.net/rafaca.html
-John C.

picus
01-16-2007, 08:50 PM
I've been using Ragtopp forever, both the cleaner and protectant. No complaints about either.

dboy11
01-17-2007, 02:21 PM
I third or fourth this Ragg Topp is the best that I have used.

The way that I clean and protect is to. Wash using the RG cleaner, using a soft plastic brush one like for finger nails, this will loosen up everything and rinse off. Then dry really well and let stand so that the surface is bone dry. I like to use a brush attachment on my shop vac to suck up anything that is on the surface. Then spray on the conditioner, let stand repeat and let dry. Lastly I take the brush attachment on the vac once more to lift the residue and your top will come back to new

TOGWT
01-18-2007, 02:35 AM
Rode & Schwalenbert Gmbn. (Germany) the world leading manufacturer of automobile convertible tops exclusively recommends Harrtz RaggTop Cleaners and Protectant. Developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, these cleaning kits consist of two products:

1. Cleaner to remove soiling, stains and atmospheric pollution for both natural and synthetic materials. The best cleaners are formulated from low-pH (low alkalinity) and gentle enough for repeated use over years. They will rely on proteins and enzymes for their safe, but effective, cleaning power.

2. Fabric protector to re-proof and preserve fabric tops from the effects of water absorption, surface soiling and staining, and provide a sunscreen from UV radiation and subsequent fading. It has the best UV protection of any product on the market, and it repels dirt, grease, and oil. It doesn’t make your vinyl top glossy or greasy-looking. It will have the natural matte sheen of new vinyl.

Alternative product- this is the fabric protector recommended by Glen Raven Mills (Sunbrella) and the Haartz Corporation, 303™ High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellence and stain repellence to factory new levels. It stops leaks, resists soiling and impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.

Application Methodology
•Use a soft horsehair brush to remove any loose surface dust, use a lint lifter to remove lint from the fabric surface. Be careful around the rear window to avoid scratching
•Mask the areas around the fabric top with masking tape (3M® Painters Easy Release Blue Tape) also cover the rear window to avoid over-spray
•Shake product for 30-60 seconds to ensure even mixing
•With all cleaning products, always test a small, indiscrete area first to ensure it won't discolour or stain the surface, and ensure that the pH of the product is suitable for the material.
•Apply fabric cleaner (Harrtz RaggTop Cleaner) with a clean, damp applicator and leave to penetrate fabric for 10 – 20 minutes dependant upon stain. Gently scrub using a soft brush. Repeat if necessary.
•Appling two light coats are better than the application of one heavy coat: allow drying thoroughly between coats.
•Rinse off using a low-pressure water hose and a soft horsehair brush
•Dry with a waffle weave Microfiber towel using a blotting motion to dry excess moisture.
•Allow the fabric to dry for as long as possible (preferably 24-hours) before using the protectant. An hour or two isn’t long enough, it may feel dry but that’s only the uppermost surface layer (using a protectant on a damp fabric will ‘seal in’ the moisture and encourage the formation of mildew)
•Apply a fabric protector (Harrtz RaggTop Protectant) on the dry fabric, keeping about 6-8 inches above surface and using a back and forth movements spray lightly but do not soak.
•Alternatively use a soft horsehair paintbrush and apply light thin coats, if time permits, two light coats are better than one medium coat, using gentle sweeping motion. Do not saturate. Allow to dry 10-15 minutes between coats, and to dry thoroughly before using or storing.
•Remove all masking tape and any other materials
•Be sure to remove any accidental over-spray from paint or glass surfaces immediately with a damp Microfiber towel or a 1:1 isopropyl alcohol / distilled water solution. On paint work use a pre-wax cleaner if necessary or fine detailing clay.
•After treatment the top will bead water, when the beading diminishes (usually at 6 monthly intervals, dependant upon climate / use) it's an indication that it's time for another treatment.

Maintenance-
Normal cleaning: Use a 10:1 solution of Woolite/ Distilled water and 303 Space Protectant for UVR protection

To remove heavier dirt / stains: Renovo Fabric Soft Top Dry Cleaner (www.renovointernational.com) gently lifts dirt, road grime, bird dropping, tree sap and salt from your canvas top without compromising water repellence
Periodically (dependant on climatic conditions) apply a UV protection (303TM Aerospace Protectant) to fabric by keeping spray about 6-8 inches above surface and using a back and forth movement spray lightly but do not soak fabric.

For badly stained or neglected convertible fabric tops leave fabric cleaner on overnight, keep damp by covering with a plastic sheet, once stains are removed rinse thoroughly and apply protection

dboy11
01-18-2007, 11:21 AM
Rode & Schwalenbert Gmbn. (Germany) the world leading manufacturer of automobile convertible tops exclusively recommends Harrtz RaggTop Cleaners and Protectant. Developed specifically for cleaning, re-proofing and preserving convertible tops, these cleaning kits consist of two products:

1. Cleaner to remove soiling, stains and atmospheric pollution for both natural and synthetic materials. The best cleaners are formulated from low-pH (low alkalinity) and gentle enough for repeated use over years. They will rely on proteins and enzymes for their safe, but effective, cleaning power.

2. Fabric protector to re-proof and preserve fabric tops from the effects of water absorption, surface soiling and staining, and provide a sunscreen from UV radiation and subsequent fading. It has the best UV protection of any product on the market, and it repels dirt, grease, and oil. It doesn’t make your vinyl top glossy or greasy-looking. It will have the natural matte sheen of new vinyl.

Alternative product- this is the fabric protector recommended by Glen Raven Mills (Sunbrella) and the Haartz Corporation, 303™ High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellence and stain repellence to factory new levels. It stops leaks, resists soiling and impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV rays.

Application Methodology
•Use a soft horsehair brush to remove any loose surface dust, use a lint lifter to remove lint from the fabric surface. Be careful around the rear window to avoid scratching
•Mask the areas around the fabric top with masking tape (3M® Painters Easy Release Blue Tape) also cover the rear window to avoid over-spray
•Shake product for 30-60 seconds to ensure even mixing
•With all cleaning products, always test a small, indiscrete area first to ensure it won't discolour or stain the surface, and ensure that the pH of the product is suitable for the material.
•Apply fabric cleaner (Harrtz RaggTop Cleaner) with a clean, damp applicator and leave to penetrate fabric for 10 – 20 minutes dependant upon stain. Gently scrub using a soft brush. Repeat if necessary.
•Appling two light coats are better than the application of one heavy coat: allow drying thoroughly between coats.
•Rinse off using a low-pressure water hose and a soft horsehair brush
•Dry with a waffle weave Microfiber towel using a blotting motion to dry excess moisture.
•Allow the fabric to dry for as long as possible (preferably 24-hours) before using the protectant. An hour or two isn’t long enough, it may feel dry but that’s only the uppermost surface layer (using a protectant on a damp fabric will ‘seal in’ the moisture and encourage the formation of mildew)
•Apply a fabric protector (Harrtz RaggTop Protectant) on the dry fabric, keeping about 6-8 inches above surface and using a back and forth movements spray lightly but do not soak.
•Alternatively use a soft horsehair paintbrush and apply light thin coats, if time permits, two light coats are better than one medium coat, using gentle sweeping motion. Do not saturate. Allow to dry 10-15 minutes between coats, and to dry thoroughly before using or storing.
•Remove all masking tape and any other materials
•Be sure to remove any accidental over-spray from paint or glass surfaces immediately with a damp Microfiber towel or a 1:1 isopropyl alcohol / distilled water solution. On paint work use a pre-wax cleaner if necessary or fine detailing clay.
•After treatment the top will bead water, when the beading diminishes (usually at 6 monthly intervals, dependant upon climate / use) it's an indication that it's time for another treatment.

Maintenance-
Normal cleaning: Use a 10:1 solution of Woolite/ Distilled water and 303 Space Protectant for UVR protection

To remove heavier dirt / stains: Renovo Fabric Soft Top Dry Cleaner (www.renovointernational.com) gently lifts dirt, road grime, bird dropping, tree sap and salt from your canvas top without compromising water repellence
Periodically (dependant on climatic conditions) apply a UV protection (303TM Aerospace Protectant) to fabric by keeping spray about 6-8 inches above surface and using a back and forth movement spray lightly but do not soak fabric.

For badly stained or neglected convertible fabric tops leave fabric cleaner on overnight, keep damp by covering with a plastic sheet, once stains are removed rinse thoroughly and apply protection

Your posts are very informative but where are you getting this info from?

I sent you a PM asking about the publication that you are getting this, but never heard back. I would like to read this for myself

LmtdSlip
01-18-2007, 11:39 AM
I use Raggtop and simply follow the directions. Works like a champ.

picus
01-18-2007, 11:48 AM
Your posts are very informative but where are you getting this info from?

I sent you a PM asking about the publication that you are getting this, but never heard back. I would like to read this for myself

He wrote it. :)

http://togwt.com/

AUTOMOTIVE DETAILING INSIDE & OUT A KNOWLEDGEBASE FOR THE PERFECTIONIST By Jon Miller aka TOGWT.

Boxboss
01-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Alternative product- this is the fabric protector recommended by Glen Raven Mills (Sunbrella) and the Haartz Corporation, 303***8482; High Tech Fabric Guard restores lost water repellence and stain repellence to factory new levels. It stops leaks, resists soiling and impedes mildew formation and helps protect against the sun's harmful UV raysdirt, road grime, bird dropping, tree sap and salt
My product of choice.

TOGWT
01-19-2007, 01:41 AM
Your posts are very informative but where are you getting this info from?

I sent you a PM asking about the publication that you are getting this, but never heard back. I would like to read this for myself

Thank you for the compliment:::

Automotive Detailing Inside & Out, A Knowledge Base for the Perfectionist ***8211; by Jon Miller aka TOGWT
Of course, we'd love it if you told all your friends about this book. But we'll understand if you choose not to let them in on your secret.

By the way no trees were harmed in the creation of these books, but billions of electrons, photons, and electromagnetic waves were terribly inconvenienced!