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Kaz
01-02-2003, 02:20 PM
OK, its a concept... but with a production-based motor and a future production chassis.

http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2003_la/magnum/BackViewTailgateUp.jpg

~450hp/480lbft
5.7 HEMI with Whipple blower
RWD
MB slushie/steering/suspension
possible AWD

The front end is pretty ugly but does this signal the return of Charger R/Ts, Barracudas and other assorted Mopar Power?

bluer1
01-02-2003, 02:26 PM
Dunno - I think it's indicative of manufacturers recovering from
the 70's gas crisis though. We went from big block muscle cars
to 510s and cvccs (remember the Civic forerunner?) overnight.

It seems that technology has caught up and the manufacturers
have realized that they can make big power and still pass CARB.

I ain't complainin'
:thumbup:

Kaz
01-02-2003, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by bluer1

It seems that technology has caught up and the manufacturers
have realized that they can make big power and still pass CARB.


Sure, they're cleaner (hell the Expedition is a ULEV) but I don't think I'd like to see the bad 'ol days of 10mpg (OK, I wasn't even born in the 60s).

I'm disappointed as it is that my car can't do better than 24mpg.

Cliff
01-02-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by bluer1
Dunno - I think it's indicative of manufacturers recovering from
the 70's gas crisis though. We went from big block muscle cars
to 510s and cvccs (remember the Civic forerunner?) overnight.

It seems that technology has caught up and the manufacturers
have realized that they can make big power and still pass CARB.

I ain't complainin'
:thumbup:

Actually, the Honda 600 was the Civic forerunner (I had a 79 Civic CVCC - the CVCC had something to do with vortexes in the combustion chamber): http://www.dmrgutters.com/600.htm

Kaz
01-02-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by Cliff3
Actually, the Honda 600 was the Civic forerunner (I had a 79 Civic CVCC - the CVCC had something to do with vortexes in the combustion chamber): http://www.dmrgutters.com/600.htm

Well, if you want to be completely accurate, you'd have to go back to the Honda N360

http://www.honda.co.jp/sou50/Hworld/Hall/4r/images/photo/30.jpeg

I believe Honda's earlier auto products were all commercial vehicles and F1 cars.

...OK, I take that back. The S500/600/800 series goes back a ways.

Cliff
01-02-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Kaz
Well, if you want to be completely accurate, you'd have to go back to the Honda N360

I believe Honda's earlier auto products were all commercial vehicles and F1 cars.

...OK, I take that back. The S500/600/800 series goes back a ways.

I remember Road & Track testing a 600 in the early 70's. They called it a motorized shopping cart. The Civic was a breakthrough car for them. FWIW: http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/generations/articles/68272/article.html

bluer1
01-02-2003, 02:48 PM
I'm surrounded by car nerds.
;)

I was more concerned with Big Wheels and Green Machines back then.
:D

Kaz
01-02-2003, 02:51 PM
Well, the Civic was the first (non-Asian) human-sized car. I've ridden in late-model Z600s and early Civics and though the Civic is FAR larger and has way more go (with a 2x sized engine) they felt very similar.

Too bad the US market mostly got plain CVCC models and not stuff like the 80hp 5-speed RS models.

Cliff
01-02-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by bluer1
I'm surrounded by car nerds.
;)

I was more concerned with Big Wheels and Green Machines back then.
:D

Punk kid :tsk: ;)

My first brand new off-the-lot car was a 79 Civic (vomit green with dirt-colored upholstry).

TD
01-02-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by bluer1
I'm surrounded by car nerds.
;)

I was more concerned with Big Wheels and Green Machines back then.
:D

In the EARLY '70s, I was just getting around to being born.

bluer1
01-02-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Cliff3
Punk kid :tsk: ;)

My first brand new off-the-lot car was a 79 Civic (vomit green with dirt-colored upholstry).

The family's first brand new car was a blue CVCC - the car I
learned to drive in. I think I still had my Big Wheel when Dad
put me behind the wheel - I remember having a lot of fun driving
through subdivisions that were being built in Houston, (on
the weekends when no one was around).

My funniest memory of that car was that my Dad installed an
airhorn in it for driving on Houston freeways. It sounded like
a Mack truck! When people would creep over/cut him off, he'd
hit that horn and they'd jump back into their lane.

My first brand new car was/is the current E46!

HW
01-02-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Cliff3
Punk kid :tsk: ;)

My first brand new off-the-lot car was a 79 Civic (vomit green with dirt-colored upholstry).

hehe, my friend (and his bro) were totally into those int he early '90s. he used to shoehorn '81/'82 accord engines into them. :lmao:

AB
01-02-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by bluer1
I'm surrounded by car nerds.
;)

I was more concerned with Big Wheels and Green Machines back then.
:D

:lmao: Remember when the Green Machine came out and it instantly made the Big Wheel obsolete?? :lmao:

bluer1
01-02-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Ryan330Ci
:lmao: Remember when the Green Machine came out and it instantly made the Big Wheel obsolete?? :lmao:

The scarey thing? I've considered building a gas-powered tube-
frame version with a motorcycle engine. Just imagine the trouble
that could get you into!