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3seriesbimmer
01-05-2003, 05:01 PM
I've been thinking of upgrading many of the plastic covers "bits" in my car with ancantara ex: lower door panels in an effort to make the interior a little better looking AND quieter. Anyone know if Alcantara can be purchased by the yard or however??? Has anyone ever worked with it???:dunno:

The Roadstergal
01-05-2003, 05:18 PM
Have you tried <a href=http://www.alcantara.it/english/contract/contract.htm>contacting them</a>?

AndyM
01-05-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by 3seriesbimmer
I've been thinking of upgrading many of the plastic covers "bits" in my car with ancantara ex: lower door panels in an effort to make the interior a little better looking AND quieter. Anyone know if Alcantara can be purchased by the yard or however??? Has anyone ever worked with it???:dunno:

You can buy it from several places by the running yard. It is EXTREMELY difficult to work with. Easily 100 times harder to work with than leather or suede (and leather and suede are not that easy to work with). I would recommend letting a professional upholsterer do the work rather than risking it yourself (BMW door panels are not cheap). Feel free to give me a call if you would like to discuss.

513.706.1834
andymaddux@LeatherZ.com

Mystikal
01-05-2003, 05:52 PM
Forget about it and just get the LeatherZ guys to do it in Suede, honestly. The trouble you will go through is just not worth it.

AndyM
01-05-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Mystikal
Forget about it and just get the LeatherZ guys to do it in Suede, honestly. The trouble you will go through is just not worth it.

So now we have to go through all that trouble?!?:bawling:

Just kidding.

How much of an impact are you looking for as far as cutting down noise? I don't think Leather/Suede/Alcantara will make that much of a difference.

The Roadstergal
01-05-2003, 05:58 PM
How does Alcantara do as an interior, compared to cloth? How disgustingly wealthy would you have to be to get seat covers?

AndyM
01-05-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by The Roadstergal
How does Alcantara do as an interior, compared to cloth? How disgustingly wealthy would you have to be to get seat covers?

Wears better than cloth. I won't say what Roadsterwench paid to have her seats re-upholstered in leather and suede but it was a good amount (materials alone she bought 2 full hides of Black Suede and 2 full hides of Beige Leather). Alcantara is not expensive which is the main advantage. The other being the amount of care you have to put into maintaining it: spill some ice cream? wipe it clean with soapy water. That's it.

I would personally go for Suede instead of Alcantara, but that is just me. If you are already spending the money to get it done, you might as well do it the way you want it and not think about the cost. No point in sacrificing what you want because you want to save $100-200 on something that costs a couple thousand. Just my thoughts on it. I would imagine you could spend $500.00 or $10,000. All depends on how far you want to take it, what materials you're using and who is doing the work.

Is the Miata getting new seats?:dunno:

The Roadstergal
01-05-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by AndyM
Is the Miata getting new seats?:dunno:

When I have money. Which won't be for a while. :( Leather seats are about $2K, but I'm not hot on the feel of leather seats.

Mr Paddle.Shift
01-05-2003, 10:43 PM
I don't see why not.

AndyM
01-05-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by VinceTopasBlau3
I don't see why not.

I think he is looking for more alcantara, mainly the lower section of the panel.

Can a US dealer get Individual pieces or would have to go through a European dealer?

Mr Paddle.Shift
01-05-2003, 10:54 PM
aye, my bad. I believe BMW Individual can provide the trim pieces in alcantara too. And the door panels too.

Have to go through an Euro dealer. US dealers will claim that these part numbers do not exist. In addition, you have to provide the chassis number of the E46 that is equipped with Alcantara.

Originally posted by AndyM
I think he is looking for more alcantara, mainly the lower section of the panel.

Can a US dealer get Individual pieces or would have to go through a European dealer?

AndyM
01-05-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by VinceTopasBlau3
aye, my bad. I believe BMW Individual can provide the trim pieces in alcantara too. And the door panels too.

Have to go through an Euro dealer. US dealers will claim that these part numbers do not exist. In addition, you have to provide the chassis number of the E46 that is equipped with Alcantara.

I knew it was going to be tough.

JonM
01-06-2003, 09:44 AM
If all you want is to make the interior more quiet, put dynamat on the back sides of the door panels. It will work like a champ.

If you want to make the interior look nicer, go have a look at 986 and 996 p-cars. Porsche carpets the lower 1/4 section of the door panels. I like the look and it stops scuff marks completely. Way cheaper than seude or alcantara too.

Alcantara is the best wearing material you can put into a car. It is very lightweight too. I don't think it will do much for sound absorbtion, at least by itself. Foam backing and adhesive is another story. You can spill coffee on alcantara and brush it right off with your hand. It is made from recycled milk jugs like patagonia synchilla. It does not stretch - at all - which makes it very hard for people like us to work with. You have to be dead nuts on your templates. Also, if you get any adhesive on the fuzzy side, you are absolutely screwed and you have to start over.

bmw325
01-06-2003, 09:49 AM
I've always liked the look, feel and durability of Alcantara-- but how breathable is it?

JonM
01-06-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by robg
I've always liked the look, feel and durability of Alcantara-- but how breathable is it?

You can blow through it. Can't do that with leather, suede or pleather. Unless they are perforated.

LIL RAJA
01-06-2003, 10:34 AM
yow andyZ,
i might get the new 350z mid summer. Can i get alcantra seats done by you. How much would that cost me?
thanks!

LIL Raja

AndyM
01-06-2003, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by LIL RAJA
yow andyZ,
i might get the new 350z mid summer. Can i get alcantra seats done by you. How much would that cost me?
thanks!

LIL Raja

I would need the stock seats to make templates (i.e.-destroy the stock seats). Cost would probably be a couple of thousand.

LIL RAJA
01-06-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by AndyM
I would need the stock seats to make templates (i.e.-destroy the stock seats). Cost would probably be a couple of thousand.

no problem. I think i am kewl if it's below 2k but if it's above that then i got to think. leather is 1300$
hmmm. i will contact you as the time gets closer.

LIL Raja

AndyM
01-06-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by LIL RAJA
no problem. I think i am kewl if it's below 2k but if it's above that then i got to think. leather is 1300$
hmmm. i will contact you as the time gets closer.

LIL Raja

Just so you know, I would go through someone else and then mark the price up. It is either that or I get off my a** and go to the local 2 year college for for some classes in upholstery work and then buy a couple thousand in machines so I can do the work myself.

JonM
01-06-2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by LIL RAJA
no problem. I think i am kewl if it's below 2k but if it's above that then i got to think. leather is 1300$
hmmm. i will contact you as the time gets closer.

LIL Raja

Handmade upholstery will always be more than manufactured. FYI, Recaro will work from customer provided materials.

LIL RAJA
01-06-2003, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by JonM
Handmade upholstery will always be more than manufactured. FYI, Recaro will work from customer provided materials.

please tell me more about tbis. When i was in Germany at Hamann motorsport, I had seen some awesome alcantra recaro seats in black with yellow stiching and they were all custom work. I wonder if it will be cheap for me to get the stuff done in germany and bring it back to usa. hmmm..

anyway, would appreciate any helpful info you can provide.
thanks!

LIL Raja

Mr Paddle.Shift
01-06-2003, 10:18 PM
Hey JonM,

Speaking of custom work, how difficult is it to sewn this ALPINA motif into the seats?

<img src="http://www.bimmerfest.com/members/VinceTopasBlau3/b3s7small.jpg">

:bigpimp:

AndyM
01-06-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by VinceTopasBlau3

Speaking of custom work, how difficult is it to sewn this ALPINA motif into the seats?


All you need is the graphic and an embroiderer. Then all you need to do is remove the seat covers and have it embroidered.

Mr Paddle.Shift
01-06-2003, 10:35 PM
Hrm...... ;) Thanks for the info, Andy.

Originally posted by AndyM
All you need is the graphic and an embroiderer. Then all you need to do is remove the seat covers and have it embroidered.

Roadsterwench
04-04-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by AndyM
Wears better than cloth. I won't say what Roadsterwench paid to have her seats re-upholstered in leather and suede but it was a good amount (materials alone she bought 2 full hides of Black Suede and 2 full hides of Beige Leather).

Nope, bought one hide of each. At first I thought I'd get away with 1/2 hide of suede, but ended up having to get the other half. Not that one hide of each was cheap, but better than 2 hides! :yikes: