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Newbie325cic
01-14-2003, 10:39 AM
Yea I know there hasn't been much information released on this yet, but I'm curious if there is anyone out there remotely interested? :dunno: :eek:

nate
01-14-2003, 10:51 AM
no

hockeynut
01-14-2003, 10:53 AM
I considered one, but decided on the 330cic because:


(1) We have a 2002 Maxima SE and the Nissan service is horrid.

(2) Nissan paint is notorious for chipping. Our hood at 5k miles looks as bad as our 120k 10 year old Corolla. I hear that the new 350z coupes are just as bad.

(3) Dealer markup on 350z ragtop will rival the first markups on E46 M3s.

(4) I prefer the classic styling of the E46 to the more radical 350z.

(5) BMW interior uses a bit higher quality bits than Nissan.

(6) My youngest child can spell "BMW" :)


On the plus side, the Nissan VQ engine is wonderful. Ours is "only" the 255hp version, so the 287hp version must be a joy.

SteveH

The HACK
01-14-2003, 10:57 AM
Anyone has structural rigidity #s for the 350Z? If I'd be thinking about plunking down $40K large on a 2 seat convertible, I'd look a lot harder at spending another $5K and spend it on the the Z4 3.0 or $10K large on a Boxter. The rigidity # on the Z4 is nothing sort of PHENOMINAL for a convertible, and it's just as impractical as the 350Z AND it'll probably out pace the 350Z drop top.

nate
01-14-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by The HACK
Anyone has structural rigidity #s for the 350Z? If I'd be thinking about plunking down $40K large on a 2 seat convertible, I'd look a lot harder at spending another $5K and spend it on the the Z4 3.0 or $10K large on a Boxter. The rigidity # on the Z4 is nothing sort of PHENOMINAL for a convertible, and it's just as impractical as the 350Z AND it'll probably out pace the 350Z drop top.

I would bet that the Z4 will be 400-500lbs lighter than a 350Z cabrio

hockeynut, the paint chipping on BMWs is horrible too...

in_d_haus
01-14-2003, 11:06 AM
I like the 350Z but I am not a fan of converts...maybe if I lived in another state.

Mr. The Edge
01-14-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by nate328Ci
no

I bet someone is

dredmo
01-14-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by atyclb
I bet someone is not me.

elfhearse
01-14-2003, 11:55 AM
Waiting for the new RX-7 in 06 (assuming they'll have a softtop?)

Guest84
01-14-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by hockeynut
I considered one, but decided on the 330cic because:


snip..

(3) Dealer markup on 350z ragtop will rival the first markups on E46 M3s.

(4) I prefer the classic styling of the E46 to the more radical 350z.

(5) BMW interior uses a bit higher quality bits than Nissan.

(6) My youngest child can spell "BMW" :)


SteveH

Thats some funny chit, Steve! :thumbup:

No back seat, where am I supposed to put my 4 and 7 y/o? :dunno:

hockeynut
01-14-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by nate328Ci

hockeynut, the paint chipping on BMWs is horrible too...

Bad enough to warrant a 402 post, 27 page thread, threats of lawsuits, and several web pages?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=25984

http://www.maximapaint.com/

I seriously think the paint on our Maxima chips when the wind gusts. After a long weekend doing touch up, zaino and a nose mask I hope the problem is under control.

I expect much more from my 330.

SteveH

TD
01-14-2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by nate328Ci
no

Beat me to it.

But were I in the market for a fast covnertile, I'd sure consider it. Certainly before I'd consider a Z4.

But I'm not. So I won't.

F1Crazy
01-14-2003, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Newbie325cic
Yea I know there hasn't been much information released on this yet, but I'm curious if there is anyone out there remotely interested? :dunno: :eek:

Why?
Since Z4 is out there I don't see a reason.
:dunno:

Newbie325cic
01-14-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by F1Crazy
Why?
Since Z4 is out there I don't see a reason.
:dunno:


We'll the 350z promises to offer a lot of bang for the buck. Plus, personally, I think it's gorgeous. Having not driven the Nissan yet, I can't comment on the driving dynamics, but I have driven the Z4 and found it to be an INCREDIBLE machine. It will be interesting to see how the Nissan stacks up.

F1Crazy
01-14-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Newbie325cic
We'll the 350z promises to offer a lot of bang for the buck. Plus, personally, I think it's gorgeous. Having not driven the Nissan yet, I can't comment on the driving dynamics, but I have driven the Z4 and found it to be an INCREDIBLE machine. It will be interesting to see how the Nissan stacks up.

IMO there are 2 major factors roadster/convertible buyers are considering: fun factor and image.
I can't see much heavier and less structurally stiff 350Z convertible being able to beat Z4 in fun factor category.
All those straight-line racers in 350Z will have a hard time keeping up with Z4 as well.

For image conscious Z4 will always be a better choice.

Just my $0.02.

TD
01-14-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by F1Crazy
IMO there are 2 major factors roadster/convertible buyers are considering: fun factor and image.
I can't see much heavier and less structurally stiff 350Z convertible being able to beat Z4 in fun factor category.
All those straight-line racers in 350Z will have a hard time keeping up with Z4 as well.

For image conscious Z4 will always be a better choice.

Just my $0.02.

I notice you're completely ignoring the whole Z4-is-ugly-as-sin factor.

pdz
01-14-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Newbie325cic
Yea I know there hasn't been much information released on this yet, but I'm curious if there is anyone out there remotely interested? :dunno: :eek:

totally would consider a 350Zic if:

i got it for free and then could auction it off with proceeds going to charity.....

F1Crazy
01-14-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by TD
I notice you're completely ignoring the whole Z4-is-ugly-as-sin factor.

What are you talking about?!!! :lmao:

Well... the beauty is in the eye of beholder.

pdz
01-14-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by TD
I notice you're completely ignoring the whole Z4-is-ugly-as-sin factor.

Hey TD:

actually, i would seriously consider the Z4 if it came in a coupe form. not a huge fan of convertibles (particularly for cars that will never be classics --obvious here--), but it is relatively lightweight (for a modern BMW) and has decent gearing and power.

might be fun.

TD
01-14-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by F1Crazy
What are you talking about?!!! :lmao:

Well... the beauty is in the eye of beholder.

These eyes put it in the Top 10 of Ugliest Cars Currently in Production.

pdz
01-14-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by TD
These eyes put it in the Top 10 of Ugliest Cars Currently in Production.

'think styling is highly subjective on both the Z car and the Z4, however, the Z4's dynamics make the styling more forgivable. it is well done and is what the Z3 should have always been.

a fast handling GT.

Plaz
01-14-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by TD
These eyes put it in the Top 10 of Ugliest Cars Currently in Production.

This coming from the guy with an eye on a Volvo wagon. :p

dredmo
01-14-2003, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Plaz
This coming from the guy with an eye on a Volvo wagon. :p :lmao: TD I hear if you sweet talk nate he might be able to get you a cherry 240 wagon like his first car. What a beaut, I am sure nate could post a pic of it.... again, (nate where is that Dinan CAI pic, havent seen it in a while.) :D :D

TD
01-14-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Plaz
This coming from the guy with an eye on a Volvo wagon. :p

Well, that infatuation is waning. I keep seein gregular V70s on the road and I am not feeling it in any way. I know the V70R will have cosmetic differences as well as mechanical ones, but it would be like putting a dress on a pig (or nice rims on an E65), it's just not enough.

It's probably between a new A4 3.0 Avant 6-spd SP, used S4 6-spd or used 528iT 5-spd SP. They are all within $1-2K of being the same price.

e46Christian
03-17-2003, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by F1Crazy
IMO there are 2 major factors roadster/convertible buyers are considering: fun factor and image.
I can't see much heavier and less structurally stiff 350Z convertible being able to beat Z4 in fun factor category.
All those straight-line racers in 350Z will have a hard time keeping up with Z4 as well.

For image conscious Z4 will always be a better choice.

Just my $0.02.

One comment about structural rigidity...the front and rear strut bars are staying in place, so that takes care of that problem chopping off the roof causes. I'm not 100% sold on the looks of the 350z, but the Z4 is just UGLY.

PS...Bangle sucks. I hate the direction he's taking BMW.

tgravo2
03-18-2003, 06:06 AM
I liike the looks of the 350Z convertible and the interior but would definately look at a Z4 3.0 before that, but I would pick the 350Z over a Z4 2.5

pdz
03-18-2003, 06:22 AM
the Z convertible is just going to be another heavy, plodding GT.

blech.

after sitting in a Z car at the nismo dealership recently, i found the interior to be decent but wanting. and nissan's answer of bigger displacement at the cost of high-rpm power is really not my cup of tea. neither is the high curb weight. track package or not.

nowonder
03-18-2003, 07:13 AM
Also keep in mind the z4 has more trunk room than the regular 350z has hatch room. I expect their convertible to be useless.

I would pay the price difference for the z4 (and did) for three reasons:

1) Not to have to deal with the Nissan dealer (scum!)
2) For an interior that doesn't look like it came out of a hot wheel.
3) If I wanted a convertible that looks like an Audi TT, I would get an audi tt. I hate knockoffs.

--nw

AF
03-18-2003, 04:04 PM
I love the looks of the New 350Z convertible . . . it definitely looks more substantial than the Z4 . . .