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m123xyz
05-04-2007, 06:12 PM
kind of dumb question but curious if anyone has thoughts on if a 535 would depriciate more or less than a 335.

I'm torn btwn the two and that said might wind up in yet another car a year or so from now. looking to take the smallest hit if that happens.

Kamdog
05-04-2007, 06:24 PM
IMO, this is the wrong question. What are your needs? Could a short term lease, like 2 years satisfy them? The depreciaton hit in the first year is huge, regardless of whether it is a 3 or a 5. Obviously, the 5 costs more, so the hit would be bigger. But I think you are missing the real question, which is what are your needs? If you are just going to drive something for one year, maybe you should look to a less expensive car for the year. You can easily lose $10,000 on a well done 5.

aficionado
05-04-2007, 07:48 PM
No matter what you buy, after "X" number of years you WILL lose HALF your money.

$60,000 will be $30,000

$30,000 will be $15,000

$20,000 will be $10,000


How much are you willing to pay to drive a car?

m123xyz
05-04-2007, 08:34 PM
guess I was thinking 5er might be more valuable over the shrt term.

as far as needs go I need an x3 with the turbo and a liitle tougher looking nest would be 335xi or 535xi that looks a wee bit better, has a full size spare and sport suspension. oh a 635xi would be cool.

that said may want a m3/s5/c63/ next year. could keep car I have but if If I liked 3/5 might hold it for 2yrs who knows. lease is an idea but 2yr too long.

like I said it was a bit of a stupid question.

115sonic
05-04-2007, 09:09 PM
Why not buy used and let orig owner bear most of the deprec??

doug_999
05-05-2007, 06:36 AM
Per BMW the residuals on the 3-series are higher - not by much, but they are higher. So the 3-series holds its value over time better (at least per BMW).

rumratt
05-05-2007, 07:49 AM
No matter what you buy, after "X" number of years you WILL lose HALF your money.

$60,000 will be $30,000

$30,000 will be $15,000

$20,000 will be $10,000


How much are you willing to pay to drive a car?


Thanks Captain Obvious. :rofl:

The question is whether X is the same or different for the 3 and the 5.

TimeOut
05-05-2007, 09:01 AM
4 > X > 3 :)

m123xyz
05-05-2007, 11:40 AM
4 > X > 3 :)

?

TimeOut
05-05-2007, 02:16 PM
In other words, cars in US lose half of their value between the third and fourth year of ownership. BMW cars are not an exception.

krash
05-06-2007, 06:03 AM
In other words, cars in US lose half of their value between the third and fourth year of ownership. BMW cars are not an exception.


Actually, BMWs depreciate in value less than most other cars.

bmwfanwashdc
05-08-2007, 08:26 AM
Actually, BMWs depreciate in value less than most other cars.

trust me after many bmw's they still depreciate a lot. maybe not as much as a cadillac but def depreciate as any car would. honda,acura, bmw are all good for depreciation but they still depreciate significantly. converts seem to do better and also mini-coopers are on top.

Robert A
05-08-2007, 07:51 PM
The answer is an emphatic "yes." Bigger sedans depreciate faster, and I know from first hand experience that your 5 series sedan will take a huge hit simply because that's the nature of resale car pricing.

Hedge your risk by leasing.

kind of dumb question but curious if anyone has thoughts on if a 535 would depriciate more or less than a 335.

I'm torn btwn the two and that said might wind up in yet another car a year or so from now. looking to take the smallest hit if that happens.

Robert A
05-08-2007, 07:54 PM
I'm always surprised that convertables depreciate less. Their interiors wear out faster.

-Robert A

trust me after many bmw's they still depreciate a lot. maybe not as much as a cadillac but def depreciate as any car would. honda,acura, bmw are all good for depreciation but they still depreciate significantly. converts seem to do better and also mini-coopers are on top.

m123xyz
05-08-2007, 08:19 PM
wish I could lease but good chance I'd give the car up next summer so unless there are one yr leases no point.

funny I remember back in 01 I had an m5, sold it after 9months (traded for 2 audis) and took zero loss on it.

mapezzul
05-09-2007, 05:34 AM
I am fairly sure you can do a 1 year lease. The depreciation is nearly the same as a 2 year but at least you know what the hit will be instead of rolling the dice. I can not recall if BMW did the 1 year or if it was Audi. The rates are not posted I do not believe but the finance people should be able to help.

Best of luck!:thumbup:

SteVTEC
05-09-2007, 06:00 AM
Ignoring BMWFS residuals, I think the 335i ought to have some pretty hot real-world resale values given that there's probably tons of car modders out there that are just aching to get their hands on the TT engine to make 500-600hp with them and turn them into monsters, but can't quite afford it new. I think many of them would jump at the chance to get one in a year or two from outside the BMW brand, so "street resale" might be much better than expected. Can't say the same for the 5er since it's larger and heavier and won't be the tuner car that the 3er will.

Strictly from a resale point of view, I'd probably go with a 335i in this case. Just make sure you get the 6MT so that you can say "RARE 6SPD MANUAL" when you go to sell it. :)

jacksonhunter31
05-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Ignoring BMWFS residuals, I think the 335i ought to have some pretty hot real-world resale values given that there's probably tons of car modders out there that are just aching to get their hands on the TT engine to make 500-600hp with them and turn them into monsters, but can't quite afford it new. I think many of them would jump at the chance to get one in a year or two from outside the BMW brand, so "street resale" might be much better than expected. Can't say the same for the 5er since it's larger and heavier and won't be the tuner car that the 3er will.

Strictly from a resale point of view, I'd probably go with a 335i in this case. Just make sure you get the 6MT so that you can say "RARE 6SPD MANUAL" when you go to sell it. :)

fact---automatics are more valuable on resale. Most people do not want, or cannot drive a stick. Simple truth. If leasing, who cares, if buying to resell in less than five years, it matters.

jacksonhunter31
05-09-2007, 06:52 PM
One more thing..ignoring BMWFS residuals is a mistake...this is a science to these folks and they're doing better math than any of us can, they have more info..