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oilbelcher
05-28-2007, 03:21 AM
I was just at BMW Fort Lauderdale. The rep said their best prediction of BMW diesel introduction is early 2008. Most people have said the first models to receive diesel is the X5 first, with the 5 series immediately after or at the same time. Anybody here news that validates the timing of diesel intro?

kaismaeel2000
05-29-2007, 08:40 AM
You can expect these cars to be priced significantly higher than their gasoline counterparts, and expect no discounts, incentives or good lease programs for a long time. They might have higher lease residuals though.

fabby
05-29-2007, 09:33 AM
When touring the Dingolfing factory two weeks ago, I asked the guide, Alex, when the diesels would make it to the US. He told me the problem has been the sulfer content in the fuel in the US. The europeon diesel is refined withouth the levels of sulfer and hence works better in their engine. He said that they did have people working on the engines alloys to try and fix this problem.

epiphone3
05-29-2007, 10:23 AM
You can expect these cars to be priced significantly higher than their gasoline counterparts, and expect no discounts, incentives or good lease programs for a long time. They might have higher lease residuals though.

This not necessarily true. The diesel Mercedes models that are currently available are priced slightly higher than than the gasoline counterpart or, in the case of the E-class, significantly lower than the gasoline counterpart.

BMWSTL
05-29-2007, 12:28 PM
When touring the Dingolfing factory two weeks ago, I asked the guide, Alex, when the diesels would make it to the US. He told me the problem has been the sulfer content in the fuel in the US. The europeon diesel is refined withouth the levels of sulfer and hence works better in their engine. He said that they did have people working on the engines alloys to try and fix this problem.

Close, but not quite.

The EPA is moving the US to ultra low sulfur diesel (15 ppm) and away from low sulfur diesel (500 ppm). On June 1st, 2006, U.S. refiners were required to produce 80% of their annual output as ULSD, and 2007+ model year cars can only run on ULSD.

Good summaries here http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/diesel/ulsd.shtml and here http://www.clean-diesel.org/highway.html. Comments on Canadian regulations can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-low_sulfur_diesel

Lou