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C3Po
06-30-2007, 12:13 PM
Ok, now that the iPhone is publicly released, who here has successfully paired one with their BMW? Which year and model? Did you encounter any pairing issues or operational problems during phone calls?

KenFL
06-30-2007, 06:16 PM
Set up took 1 minute. Works with iphone screen or via steering wheel. Adress book and all. :)

Bikey
07-01-2007, 09:04 PM
Ok, now that the iPhone is publicly released, who here has successfully paired one with their BMW? Which year and model? Did you encounter any pairing issues or operational problems during phone calls?

It worked great with my 650. I think the total time to get it paired was 2 or 3 minutes.

C3Po
07-01-2007, 11:32 PM
That's good news to hear - thanks for the reports. Hope to test BT out with my E46 coupe in the near future - after the wait lines for the phone have diminished.

C3Po
07-04-2007, 12:10 AM
Just found this announcement on BMW NA's website. Sounds like BMW was able to do some advance testing across their model line of the iPhone Bluetooth interface.

http://www.bmwusa.com/owners/iphone

Wonder if they have a iPhone cradle in the works, too?

GBPackerfan1963
07-04-2007, 06:56 AM
The iPhone paired with my '06 X5 (no navi) and with my '07 550i flawlessly. :D

I have the dealer installed iPod interface in my X5 and upon plugging it in to the connector, it states that this is not an approved accessory and do you want to put it in "airplane mode". Just disregard the warning, do not respond, and the iPhone worked perfect. It loaded my phonebook (2500 entries) quickly. My Nextel was worthless when it came to that. :thumbdwn: My contacts come up on the display above the buttons. That's cool. It even distinguishes whether it is a mobile or home number.

In the 550i (build 8/2006), I also have the dealer installed iPod connector in the glovebox. The contacts all come up on the navi screen and are very descriptive. The iPod feature works great and I haven't had any problems with either vehicle yet (knocking on wood).

All I can say is "nice work BMW". :thumbup:

cambie
07-05-2007, 10:16 AM
is the bluetooth killing your iphone battery? I haven't even attempted pairing mine yet cause I always hated using it with my RAZR. There didn't seem to be any good way to switch the call from handsfree to handset if I have other people in the car and I dont' want them to hear what I'm discussing. And my RAZR's battery had gotten so bad it wouldn't last a full day if I left bluetooth on.

Desiboy
07-05-2007, 01:07 PM
Paired my iphone with my 05 e46 330xi yesterday. Worked like a charm. No real noticeable decline in battery life, although if I was using it constantly in the car, I'm sure I'd start seeing one.

GBPackerfan1963
07-05-2007, 10:34 PM
is the bluetooth killing your iphone battery?

I have the dealer installed iPod adaptor in my X5 and even though it shows a charging symbol on the iPhone, it sucked the battery dry in less than 12 hours. I hope that there is a fix in the works.:mad::mad::mad:

broutin
07-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Iphone paired with my '06 750LI without any problem.
All functions performing normally as far as I can tell (steering wheel, dial pad, idrive)

Cannot listen to music via bluetooth. That would be very nice.

Sadly, I still can't listen to my ipod/iphone in the car with quality sound. (No FM transmitter I have used has been good)

C3Po
07-07-2007, 10:26 PM
Cannot listen to music via bluetooth. That would be very nice.

Sadly, I still can't listen to my ipod/iphone in the car with quality sound. (No FM transmitter I have used has been good)
Stereo bluetooth would be great! One of the online product review websites mentioned that stereo audio bluetooth could be added by Apple in a future firmware upgrade. Even if that happens in the first iPhone product, do any BMW models also support it?

trikerider
07-13-2007, 07:48 PM
'05 e46
iphone %100 compatible.
#750

commander_crash
07-26-2007, 05:44 AM
I was having some issues where every other word from the person who called would get sort of garbled. The dealer said it's a wifi issue so I'll try turning that off for next time. Anyone else having issues with wifi and sound quality over the bluetooth?

Bikey
07-26-2007, 07:17 AM
I was having some issues where every other word from the person who called would get sort of garbled. The dealer said it's a wifi issue so I'll try turning that off for next time. Anyone else having issues with wifi and sound quality over the bluetooth?

One of the iPhone's bugs is the WiFi/Bluetooth interference. If WiFi is on you may get significant interference with the bluetooth connection. Turn off WiFi and bluetooth works perfectly. I hope Apple is able to fix this one with a firmware or software update. For now it is a minor irritant.

biserker1
07-28-2007, 02:36 PM
I Phone did not pair to my 2003 325 i

I put the bluetooth kit in last year. Address imports but the phone does not route the calls through my car. Worked fine with my other cells....

Anyone know what the problem may be?

grantcv1
07-29-2007, 08:10 PM
I was able to pair my iPhone with no problem, but it seems to only auto-activate occasionally. More often than not, it seems to have problems seeing the iPhone. After fiddling for a few minutes, it always works itself out. I don't really see this situation being workable in the long run. I want to just get it my car and have things work.

kcdude
07-30-2007, 07:24 AM
If you have the USB/Ipod connector, can you use the iPhone to play tunes through the connector (and charging it) and also switch over to BT phone?

n8kip
07-30-2007, 07:32 AM
My iphone pairs, but not without problems. As with the above poster, usually the car doesn't recognize the phone when I get in, though the phone recognizes the car. The only fix I've found is that I must power-off, and then back on, the iphone. Turning bluetooth off and on doesn't do it. I'll try turning off wifi and someone else suggested, but even if that works, it's still a hassle to go through whenever I get in the car.

biserker1
07-30-2007, 06:10 PM
I have a 12th gen module on it's way to test. Right now i have the 9th gen module ULF in my car. It may fix the problem.

If that's the case, Apple better update it's bluetooth software...or there will be a lot of pissed off BMW owners!

kcdude
08-01-2007, 07:08 AM
If you have the USB/Ipod connector, can you use the iPhone to play tunes through the connector (and charging it) and also switch over to BT phone?


Can anyone comment?...going phone shopping today.

chrisproia
08-02-2007, 09:33 PM
is the iPhone even compatible with the BMW?

Technic
08-03-2007, 07:50 AM
is the iPhone even compatible with the BMW?

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2484842&postcount=5

chrisproia
08-03-2007, 01:00 PM
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2484842&postcount=5

thanks Technic!

Weaselboy
08-04-2007, 07:29 AM
I was able to pair my iPhone with no problem, but it seems to only auto-activate occasionally. More often than not, it seems to have problems seeing the iPhone. After fiddling for a few minutes, it always works itself out. I don't really see this situation being workable in the long run. I want to just get it my car and have things work.

I was having the same problem (May build E92) and the latest iPhone firmware seems to have fixed. Give it a try.

C3Po
08-05-2007, 04:08 PM
Yep, the latest iPhone firmware revision is worth a try (v1.0.1). Several Safari-related security bugs are addressed, as listed on Apple's website, but there are other unlisted bug fixes as well. Until I upgraded the firmware yesterday, my iPhone was not playing music through a Kensington FM transmitter. Today, it works great in both normal and airplane mode, and mutes the music when a call is active. :)

snickers
08-13-2007, 06:35 PM
Does the BMW ipod adapter provide any functionality such as charging and control of itunes from the steering wheel of the iphone?

snickers
08-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Can anyone comment?...going phone shopping today.

Did you get the iphone to charge and play with the via the Ipod connector? thanks

C3Po
08-19-2007, 11:31 PM
One of the iPhone's bugs is the WiFi/Bluetooth interference. If WiFi is on you may get significant interference with the bluetooth connection. Turn off WiFi and bluetooth works perfectly. I hope Apple is able to fix this one with a firmware or software update. For now it is a minor irritant.
I hope not, but it looks like the interference issue you reported might be unavoidable. According to the info posted here (http://www.wireless4bmw.com/info/ATT_Apple_iPhone_Info_VerB%2007%2003%2008.pdf), the voice dropouts with WiFi enabled are considered "normal operaton for Bluetooth 1.1 hardware" :confused:

BTW, there's some good info in this datasheet regarding iPhone compatibility with different BMW models and known issues. Hopefully Apple can address most of the other issues with a firmware update. It's possible the compatibility chart is conservative, as hands-free iPhone v1.0.1 calling has been working great in my 330 Coupe, with a build date nearly one year prior to the June 2006 date listed in the table.

C3Po
08-27-2007, 07:11 PM
I was having the same problem (May build E92) and the latest iPhone firmware seems to have fixed. Give it a try.
Apple has released another firmware update for the iPhone - v1.0.2. Contains bug fixes according to Apple. The update took only 3 minutes, and it's been rock solid since. v1.0.1 was less than steller for me - the touch screen locked up in the middle of a long drive with music playing and Bluetooth enabled. Required a hard reset to clear it (depress home and sleep buttons simultaneously for 10 sec).

zerock
09-01-2007, 04:16 PM
hmm i guess its wifi off while driving.

C3Po
09-05-2007, 05:49 PM
Seems so - maybe even when connected to any Bluetooth device. Bluetooth 2.0 and Wi-Fi 802.11b/g devices (like iPhone) utilize the same 2.4 GHz frequency spectrum, so interference is likely. I tried placing a hands-free call from my car this morning - for the first time with Wi-Fi enabled. The voice dropouts were severe, making the connection unusable.

Other devices which utilize the 2.4 GHz spectrum and hence might cause interference are microwave ovens, cordless phones, baby monitors, security cameras.

Apple would be able to mitigate this problem by adding 802.11a, which operates in the relatively uncrowded 5 GHz band. But at least for now, iPhone doesn't support it - I suspect because 'a' is not as widely deployed as 'b/g' in the consumer world.

Brandon01
09-06-2007, 08:45 PM
I also experience static and voice dropouts when using my iPhone over bluetooth on my '07 X3. Turning off WiFi on the iPhone isn't a solution to the problem, it's a very poor work-around.

Sounds like BMWs built before the dates listed below have a 1.1 Bluetooth adapter, which does not have adaptive frequency hopping added in newer Bluetooth revisions (1.2+), and is getting interference from the WiFi adapter on the iPhone. It appears newer BMW builds have a 1.2+ adapter and are free of this problem. From the .pdf linked to in a post three back:

7. Static / interference noise causes by Wi-FiŽ
On vehicles up to 3/07 production (X5 & Z4 up to 4/07) during an active phone call, the
hands free audio may intermittently drop out caused by the WiFiŽ of the handset. This
is considered normal operation for Bluetooth 1.1 hardware. To avoid the audio drops,
the WiFi function of the handset needs to be deactivated.
Settings  Wi-Fi Network and turn Wi-Fi Off.

I'd be interested to know if BMW would provide a Bluetooth module swap out for those of us experiencing this problem - either under warranty or at cost.

TisorkA
01-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Paired my iphone with my 05 e46 330xi yesterday. Worked like a charm. No real noticeable decline in battery life, although if I was using it constantly in the car, I'm sure I'd start seeing one.

How, I can't get mine to dial, everything else works though

C3Po
01-08-2008, 09:38 PM
Here's how pairing/dialing works on my E46:

To pair:
1. Turn iPhone on.
2. Ignition key in position 1 or higher.
3. Browse on iPhone to Settings->General->Bluetooth and enable Bluetooth.
4. Your BMW should now be discovered under "Devices", and a new window opens on the iPhone requesting your PIN.
5. Enter the PIN and confirm the entry. Your BMW shows as "Paired" on the device list.

The iPhone Bluetooth symbol is colored blue when iPhone is connected, grey otherwise. At connection time, your iPhone contact list will be copied into the BMW phone directory.

To dial:
1. Use the up and down arrows on the steering wheel to scroll through the phone directory.
2. Push the call button to dial, and then again at the end to hang up.

permesso
01-10-2008, 09:51 AM
I'd be interested to know if BMW would provide a Bluetooth module swap out for those of us experiencing this problem - either under warranty or at cost.

Has anyone actually heard of anyone getting a bluetooth module swap out to resolve the wifi interference issue?

Patty74
01-15-2008, 12:03 AM
Here's how pairing/dialing works on my E46:

To pair:
1. Turn iPhone on.
2. Ignition key in position 1 or higher.
3. Browse on iPhone to Settings->General->Bluetooth and enable Bluetooth.
4. Your BMW should now be discovered under "Devices", and a new window opens on the iPhone requesting your PIN.
5. Enter the PIN and confirm the entry. Your BMW shows as "Paired" on the device list.

The iPhone Bluetooth symbol is colored blue when iPhone is connected, grey otherwise. At connection time, your iPhone contact list will be copied into the BMW phone directory.

To dial:
1. Use the up and down arrows on the steering wheel to scroll through the phone directory.
2. Push the call button to dial, and then again at the end to hang up.

I was never given a "pin". I got all the way through the paring until the pin. Where can I find more info regarding that?

C3Po
01-15-2008, 08:12 PM
Sorry - a better choice of words would have been a "Bluetooth Passkey". It's a four-digit number printed on a 6" x 8" card that's bundled with the owner's manuals for your car.

Patty74
01-16-2008, 12:11 AM
Thanks so much for your help!!!

C3Po
01-26-2008, 10:55 AM
Has anyone actually heard of anyone getting a bluetooth module swap out to resolve the wifi interference issue?

I sent an email to BMW NA this morning regarding this issue, and will post back if they provide any new information.

blockpavick
01-29-2008, 10:52 AM
FWIW, I have a 2005 325xiT, production October 2004, Premium package with BMW Assist and factory bluetooth. My iPhone pairs fine, phonebook contact transfers (to avoid slow phonebook scroll, it is best to only have 1 phone number per contact) and I have not yet noticed any connection problems with WiFi enabled. It has only been a week so far and about 20 calls.

Joe B.

C3Po
01-29-2008, 10:44 PM
What version iPhone firmware are you running?

After reading your post I made a hands-free call today on the way home from work. Worked like a charm - no interference. Looks like Apple addressed the issue in a firmware update. I'm running 1.1.3. Anyone else still having problems?

The email response from BMWNA was not helpful - the policy is no tech support over email.

blockpavick
01-30-2008, 01:32 PM
I am using the latest firmware, 1.1.3
Just got the iPhone about 10 days ago, and have only used it with 1.1.3 since it is new to me.

Joe B.

permesso
02-07-2008, 07:47 AM
What version iPhone firmware are you running?

After reading your post I made a hands-free call today on the way home from work. Worked like a charm - no interference. Looks like Apple addressed the issue in a firmware update. I'm running 1.1.3. Anyone else still having problems?

The email response from BMWNA was not helpful - the policy is no tech support over email.

I am using firmware 1.1.3 on my iphone and progman 25 on my 2006 330i (e90). Problem is definitely still there. Occasionally, it does work. Symptom are that I can't hear my caller but they can hear me fine. It is like the sound is just dropped. If I turn off wifi, problem goes away entirely.

Jonesy16
02-22-2008, 06:21 AM
I, too, have performed the bluetooth retrofit on my '04 325i (e46). It was working perfectly with my motorola e815 and now that I have an iphone (16gb) it's useless. The phone will pair but will not transmit the audio from the phone to the car and after attempting to make or receive a call, seems to lock up the car's phone system. I believe I have a 6th generation ULF module, has anyone had luck by changing to a newer generation, or is this thing only compatible with the bluetooth/assist combo unit? Thanks.

C3Po
02-22-2008, 11:01 PM
FWIW I'm using a factory-installed BT/Assist combo unit, Gen 6.5 ULF (between 6 and 7).

Did you try disabling WiFi on your phone?

travel4B
02-27-2008, 01:28 PM
I am using firmware 1.1.3 on my iphone and progman 25 on my 2006 330i (e90). Problem is definitely still there. Occasionally, it does work. Symptom are that I can't hear my caller but they can hear me fine. It is like the sound is just dropped. If I turn off wifi, problem goes away entirely.

I just did the new (released yesterday) iPhone software update, and it seems to have taken care of the problem on my late 2005 build 525i. With my phone, the problem seemed to resolve itself about 10-15 seconds into the call, but did not occur at all if I turned wifi off. Now it seems to be working OK with wifi still on.

travel4B
02-29-2008, 04:57 AM
I just did the new (released yesterday) iPhone software update, and it seems to have taken care of the problem on my late 2005 build 525i. With my phone, the problem seemed to resolve itself about 10-15 seconds into the call, but did not occur at all if I turned wifi off. Now it seems to be working OK with wifi still on.

Sorry, nevermind. :( The bluetooth/wifi conflict persists.

permesso
03-03-2008, 11:43 AM
Sorry, nevermind. :( The bluetooth/wifi conflict persists.

Way to get my hopes up :) I thought there was a new update just release (beyond 1.1.3 which was released in Jan) and a fix. I am just kidding. I assume it would require a BMW module update/swap to resolve at this point. I am just curious if anyone with an original BMW bluetooth module had it swapped / upgraded and it resolved their issues.

erikita
03-16-2008, 11:08 PM
I have an Iphone paired up with the car and it works well as long as I dial from the phone itself. If I try to use the phone through the navigation system and pull up the phone book it will show all my contacts but on 95 percent of all my contacts only the first three digits show up. Some do have the entire number but that is rare. And even if i manually put the numbers in to dial it doesnt stay in the memory.

Anyone had this experience or know of a fix?

lennyd
03-18-2008, 08:20 PM
FWIW.... recently installed a 13th generation ULF in my 2001 540i. iPhone paired and works fine. It will not, hower, work with a 528i we own that has the 6th Generation unit installed. It will pair okay with that unit, but browsing the phone's directory causes the nav screen to go bonkers. (Bonkers is a highly technical term)

C3Po
07-08-2008, 09:45 PM
Well, it's been over a year and, more than 6 million devices later, iPhone 1.0 is about to be replaced by iPhone 3G. Since Wi-Fi works well for me and I've got BMW NAV already, I've decided to pass on iPhone 3G for the time being.

Anyone here ready to take the plunge and upgrade? Please let us know how it goes!

beashonda
07-15-2008, 02:29 PM
I just did the new (released yesterday) iPhone software update, and it seems to have taken care of the problem on my late 2005 build 525i. With my phone, the problem seemed to resolve itself about 10-15 seconds into the call, but did not occur at all if I turned wifi off. Now it seems to be working OK with wifi still on.

I just found out from the dealer that if you leave the wifi on with the iphone, it is a KNOWN problem that you audio will drop due to interferance with the bluetooth. I saw the screen that the service advisor pulled the information up on. I had been leaving the wifi on unknowingly and started having audio drop problems about 3 weeks ago.

jknj
07-22-2008, 04:26 PM
I just hooked up my new Bluetooth (ver 13) from EAS, and my new Iphone 3G. They work perfectly together! The only issue is low volume, but I am sure this is adjustable. I just haven't found out how to do so, yet.

jknj

blackjellybean
07-28-2008, 08:09 AM
worked perfectly with my 2005 525i (no Nav) , all 964 contacts appeared, no echo. :thumbup:perfect!!!

jim_barnette
07-28-2008, 10:02 PM
Much to my delight, after updating my iPhone from firmware 1.x to 2.0, I'm now able to reliably make and receive calls via bluetooth. Previously, the phonebook would sync, but after initiating a call, the bluetooth would disconnect and I would be left talking over the handset. The same thing would happen on answering an incoming call. I subsequently learned that my 12th generation BMW ULF was not compatible and that I needed the newly released 13th generation ULF. Now that is not the case and I'm able to use my iPhone hands free with my 12th generation ULF!