Royal Purple

[Pirate_copy]

FINALLY found a UK supplier of Royal Purple and placed my order for 7 litres :)

:freakdanc

[B/\/\W]

What happened to the Mobil 1 you already bought for half price?? :yikes:

[Pirate_copy]

Flushing it out

Royal purple is a billion times better and will help with my tap tap tapping :)

[B/\/\W]

A billion, wow :yikes:.

On that scientific basis, maybe I'll consider it for my next oil change. :)

Is there any actual proof of it being superior to other oils, other than the FAQ page of their web site, which simply states it is superior without any kind of evidence.

I want to see numbers and graphs!

[Pirate_copy]

Only testimonials from EVERYONE who uses it. Few bits on Google too

http://www.team-21.co.uk/acatalog/Royal_Purple_Oil.html

I know it is great as is tried and tested in the industry i trust, but that is only opinion and cannot back it up with numbers and graphs!

[nelson22]

FINALLY found a UK supplier of Royal Purple and placed my order for 7 litres :)

:freakdanc

put a link up pirate could do with changing mine nearly at 100000 i want to give it a treat

[Pirate_copy]

Give Geoff Jackson from Royal Purple UK a call on 07884 491726

Tell him i sent you and he will hook you up no doubt :)

[nelson22]

Give Geoff Jackson from Royal Purple UK a call on 07884 491726

Tell him i sent you and he will hook you up no doubt :)

cheers pirate i will give him a call:thumbup:

[Pirate_copy]

I bought some Purple Ice too - http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/prpice.html

Will report back on all my findings after Sunday when i drive 400+ miles and put the car on the track too

[jasonf860]

Hmm, Purple Ice sounds a lot like Redline's Water Wetter!

[Conehead]

Well bugger me. I just found a distributor of Royal Purple close to me. I might have to give it a lash.

And you swear by it Pirate??

Cone
XXX

[Pirate_copy]

I do indeed mate

I would never steer you guys wrong now would i!!

Jason, i agree it is very much like the Water Wetter

[B/\/\W]

I bought some Purple Ice too - http://www.royalpurple.com/prodsa/prpice.html

Will report back on all my findings after Sunday when i drive 400+ miles and put the car on the track too

Purple Ice is too effective. It cools the engine so much, that it never gets out of the cold zone, so actually increases engine wear.

;)

Why is Royal Purple not widely available if it's so good? Is it because it's a specialist product?

[Pirate_copy]

funny!

It is a specialist product and is only distributed in the UK by 4-5 places.

I can only suggest that you buy it guys, if you dont (or wont) believe it then that is fan-dabby-dosey :)

[VTi]

How much did your order come to ?

Ive seen the stuff but Ive always walked on by to pick up teh mobil 1. If its reasonable, I might pick some up.

[Pirate_copy]

Around £100 all in all...give or take

[VTi]

Hmm thats about 30 euros more than what I pay for.

Although, if it'll get rid of that eternal racket from the walnuts in a jar, it will be worth it hehe

:thumbup:

[Pirate_copy]

I have been told that is makes a significant difference to the tapping or can, in some cases, get rid of it

That is one of the main reasons i am getting it :)

[VTi]

100 quid well spent then :D

[Jim Spence]

I just read this entire post ... and I didn't understand a dad gummed thing anyone said.

My mind won't let me calculate metric, or pounds, or euros. Hell, I can barely understand dollars and cents (sense?).

[Pirate_copy]

$200 for 7 litres is basically what i paid :)

[B/\/\W]

Around £100 all in all...give or take

Hmm, pretty steep! If I had a job I'd be more likely to go for it.

The tapping is pretty annoying, but I've almost learnt to enjoy it!

[VTi]

Hmm, pretty steep! If I had a job I'd be more likely to go for it.

The tapping is pretty annoying, but I've almost learnt to enjoy it!

You enjoy that??

Sheeze! Everytime Im under the hood, I want to punch that bulge lol :madragehomicide:

[B/\/\W]

You enjoy that??

Sheeze! Everytime Im under the hood, I want to punch that bulge lol :madragehomicide:

No, I actually hate it :mad:

It's just I've got used to it I guess.

[v33_n0d3]

Wow... that's expensive. I payed $90 total for engine, transmission, differential oils and filters.

Very very very very good oil by the way. Extremely smooth, quiet and kickin'! :thumbup:

[Pirate_copy]

We pay a premium cos it has to be imported :(

[B/\/\W]

We pay a premium cos it has to be imported :(

Any companies or US ebayers that ship abroad? It would be much cheaper that way, if it was possible.

[Pirate_copy]

True true

£100 is nothing though is it really so am happy to pay it

[B/\/\W]

Yeah in the grand scheme, it's nothing for someone earning money.

Everyone on here moans about paying like 150 or 100 dollars for something, well big deal! That's only 75 or 50 quid which is basically a tank of petrol for us. Imagine filling up an 89 litre Porsche 911 tank!

[Pirate_copy]

Is all relative i guess. £100 represents a tiny proportion of my monthly salary and so doesn't faze me. Then some people will think £500 is nothing and so people will feel the pinch if it is £50.

We are all different :)

[B/\/\W]

We all pay through the nose for petrol though :(

We are forced to!

[Pirate_copy]

This is VERY true

Necessary evil though....

[Nick325xiT 5spd]

FWIW, those of you with ticking should try the mobil1 or shell rotella synthetics for diesel trucks. It's a lot more readily available than Royal Purple. And it's also made to last forever in an environment that's even more brutal.

FYI: The synthetics are 5w40, while the dino oil is 15w40.

[Pirate_copy]

Good tip, i never knew that

I am putting 10w40 in mine :)

[v33_n0d3]

That's what I have. That's also all they had. :(

[zielkerules]

ok my dad doesn't get how good royal purple is. so can you guys tell him how good it is .ill have him read it.

[v33_n0d3]

Have him read the website. http://www.royalpurple.com

[jasonf860]

FWIW, those of you with ticking should try the mobil1 or shell rotella synthetics for diesel trucks. It's a lot more readily available than Royal Purple. And it's also made to last forever in an environment that's even more brutal.

FYI: The synthetics are 5w40, while the dino oil is 15w40.

I am in process of doing an oil change right now. I am letting the oil drain overnight since I don't need the car tomorrow. i did a bit of research and found the diesel oils recommended for the BMW's like you said. I stopped into Walmart to pick up a 5 quart jug and a few single quarts and to my surprise they have a NEW FORMULA! It's 15w-50 approved for diesel! It even says "NEW FORMULA" on the container! I had planned on using Mobil1 15w-50 because of it's higher phosphate content (better for cam wear) and when I saw the diesel formula I was very happy! With the limited mileage I put on my Ella, 2 oil changes a year are all she'll need so if I am unhappy with this, I can always switch at the next interval.

Will post later to let you know how she runs with this oil.

[E36 Phantom]

$200 for 7 litres is basically what i paid :)
WHAT?!?!?!?!
Wow.... Paid $56.xx for 8 quarts (~7.5 L) of it here.....
That sucks dude!

I just read this entire post ... and I didn't understand a dad gummed thing anyone said.

My mind won't let me calculate metric, or pounds, or euros. Hell, I can barely understand dollars and cents (sense?).

Lol. Just type the conversion in to google.com
IE "100 pounds to USD"
or "7 liters to quarts"

All that really matters is Royal Purple oil: get it, and its not as expensive as it is in the UK! Lol. 6.50 for a quart, same price as my Mobil1 synth I've been running....

ok my dad doesn't get how good royal purple is. so can you guys tell him how good it is .ill have him read it.
Shocked at the difference, really.
Serious, what does it matter even if it *isn't* that much better? Its the same price as everything else anyway....I assume he at least knows synthetic is preferable to run. Slightly better (though almost negligible) lubrication, lasts 3 times as long. Simple decision. And, for the record, I was running Mobil1 High Performance Synthetic and just flushed and am running Royal Purple Synthetic 20W50, and there is a noticeable difference no doubt. Engine runs quieter and smoother. Performance difference is negligible in daily driving, but it will help your engine.

[Pirate_copy]

perfectly put Phantom :)

[B/\/\W]

And, for the record, I was running Mobil1 High Performance Synthetic and just flushed and am running Royal Purple Synthetic 20W50, and there is a noticeable difference no doubt. Engine runs quieter and smoother. Performance difference is negligible in daily driving, but it will help your engine.

What was the viscosity of the Mobil 1 though? If it was a different viscosity, it's not a fair comparison!

[Conehead]

I think Mobil 1 is 0w-40 viscosity from memory.

Cone
XXX

[mrsweden]

Just wanna say that royal purple is a really good oil no matters where in the car u are using it ;-)

I use 2 have that on my stock cars but when it comes 2 racing Track/Rally and turbo i m using Motul 300 V

http://www.motul.com/

Mags Of Sweden

[Pirate_copy]

The Mobil 1 website suggests their 0w40 for my car......

I think that is a tad too thin for my liking

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/Vehicle_Chooser/VehicleChooser.aspx?option=2

[mrsweden]

hehe trhey want me 2 go with the Mobil 1 High Mileage 10W-40

I dont trust mobile at all! Im working for volvo engine development here in sweden and i know that SAAB our competitor they have had problem with the mobil oil its "coxing"
Rurn the oil 2 small flakes? right?

Go for Royal purple or Motul guys.

Mags Of Sweden

[B/\/\W]

Screw the recommendation, 0W-40 is too thin I agree.

If you go from 0W-40 Mobil 1 to 20W-50 Royal Purple, then it's pretty obvious the viscosity is the difference in engine smoothness. But maybe E36Phantom didn't have 0W-40 before?

[Conehead]

I went and checked out the local distributor for Royal Purple oil here in AUST. There distributor here says they dont recommend it for Australian Conditions (engine oil only. Transmission oil and the rest OK).

I thought it was quite strange but he said it was due to the extreme temps that we get and the extreme temp variance. I do know at my place, in summer you can have a 45deg
(113F) day and -3 to -5 (26F to 23F) nights (in the same 24 hour period). Thats in the range of 50 deg temp variance.

Right now we are in the temp range of -7 to +5 deg.

I am going to do some further research into the matter tho cause it just dosnt sound right. I guess it could stress the oil but......just sounds a bit like bu*l**** to me.

Has anyone heard anything similar to this??.

One thing tho, he didnt try and steer me to another brand of oil, so maybe he was telling the truth.


What do you guys think??

[Pirate_copy]

I am not so sure about that mate

Surely the 10w40 that Royal Purple sell will be fine for this. IT is made for road and sustained track use

[Pirate_copy]

Screw the recommendation, 0W-40 is too thin I agree.

If you go from 0W-40 Mobil 1 to 20W-50 Royal Purple, then it's pretty obvious the viscosity is the difference in engine smoothness. But maybe E36Phantom didn't have 0W-40 before?

I am sure he did buddy

The royal purple he has SHOULD be 10w40 too

[Nick325xiT 5spd]

The Mobil 1 website suggests their 0w40 for my car......

I think that is a tad too thin for my liking

http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/Vehicle_Chooser/VehicleChooser.aspx?option=2
The Mobil 0w40 is significantly thicker at operating temperature than the 5w30 crap they sell. It's also BMW Long Life 01 compliant, so it's at least equivalent to the stock oil.

[Droopy9]

Royal purple is great, I love it!!!

Royal purple in the use is about $7 a litre.

[jasonf860]

The Mobil 0w40 is significantly thicker at operating temperature than the 5w30 crap they sell. It's also BMW Long Life 01 compliant, so it's at least equivalent to the stock oil.

E36's do not have the "long life" oil requirement.

[v33_n0d3]

Perhaps then the "short life" oil requirement?

[jasonf860]

:rofl:Screw it, I'm gonna run 80 grit blast media in mine instead of oil!

[Nick325xiT 5spd]

E36's do not have the "long life" oil requirement.
True. IIRC, many E36es were sold with dino oil from the factory. That doesn't mean that I'd recommend it.

[Pirate_copy]

Although i always LIKE to stay with what the company recommends, stuff has changed so much since 1995 :)

[v33_n0d3]

Of course! Ever wonder where the carburetors and asbestos pads went? Same basic principle. :)

[Pirate_copy]

True True

[E36 Phantom]

But maybe E36Phantom didn't have 0W-40 before?

I am sure he did buddy

The royal purple he has SHOULD be 10w40 too

Nope, I was running Mobil1 10W30 before, I couldn't find the 10W40 that I wanted to run anywhere. IMO 30 is too thin once at operating temp.

And, per the owners manual, 20W50 is closest to what I should be running in my climate.

[jasonf860]

Of course! Ever wonder where the carburetors and asbestos pads went? Same basic principle. :)

Not a damn thing wrong with Carbs and asbestos pads, aside from the obvious health effect. Some of the worlds fastest and and longest record holding vehicles in history used Both of those. One in particular, the AC Cobra, held the 0-100-0 record for nearly 40 years, long after ceramic/Kevlar pads and fuel injection were widely used. Still, I hear what your saying, Fuel injection is longer living than a carb, but hey, I still drive my Honda every day and it has a carb!

[v33_n0d3]

I didn't mention anything wrong with it. Same way that there's nothing wrong with dino oil. Just that EFI, ceramics and synthetics are better. :thumbup:

BTW: I run dino oil in my Eagle all the time.

[Conehead]

I am not so sure about that mate

Surely the 10w40 that Royal Purple sell will be fine for this. IT is made for road and sustained track use


Mate, thats what I thought. I am going to make further inquiries today in relation to it and see what I can dig up.

His comments did seem a bit suss, as I said. Maybe he was waiting for me to ask him whats a better oil so he could 'suggest' one of his own brands.

See what happens today.

Cone
XXX

[jasonf860]

FYI:
First impression (50 miles) of the Mobil 1 15w-50 diesel approved oil in the car is great! Not a single tick or sound other than the sweet sound of RPM'S....

[Pirate_copy]

Interesting......:thumbup:

[Pirate_copy]

Well i put Royal Purple racing 10w40 oil into my baby today as i had a rather nasty knocking from one (or more) of my hydraulic lifters even though the Mobil 1 oil i had in it (10w40 too) was only about 6 weeks old

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

The car is now virtually tap free and she has got her power back...woohoo. She pulls better at lower revs, she idles perfectly and the power above 4k rpm is DEFINITELY improved.

It was worth every single penny and i advise ALL OF YOU to put it in your car too.

I have also changed my viscous fan and added Purple Ice to my new coolant

All in all, a bloody fantastic day and she is now ready for her 200 mile trip to the BMW festival and her appointment on the Aston Martin Test Track.

I cannot do a video of the track time though as all cameras, phones and video cameras are banned :(

Cue people telling me why i am wrong and that she is not improved at all......

[E36 Phantom]

Cue people telling me why i am wrong and that she is not improved at all......

Noooo! You're dead on right! I'm with you, everyone should be running it, it got rid of my ticking as well!

[Pirate_copy]

Fear not, someone will argue as that is all they are here for even though they have no f*cking idea what they are talking about (you know who you are)

[Nick325xiT 5spd]

Fear not, someone will argue as that is all they are here for even though they have no f*cking idea what they are talking about (you know who you are)
Your car is still knock just as loudly as before. Your engine is about to explode. Besides, Purple oil makes you gay.








Happy now? :)

[E36 Phantom]

Your car is still knock just as loudly as before. Your engine is about to explode. Besides, Purple oil makes you gay.








Happy now? :)

:rofl:

Eh, I wouldn't say that....a bit metro, perhaps, but not gay.

[Conehead]

Fear not, someone will argue as that is all they are here for even though they have no f*cking idea what they are talking about (you know who you are)


Really...Nooo.....wouldnt happen.....I love the sarcasum.....HEHHEHHEHHE......:eeps:

[Lex Hawkins]

I just read this entire post ... and I didn't understand a dad gummed thing anyone said.

My mind won't let me calculate metric, or pounds, or euros. Hell, I can barely understand dollars and cents (sense?).



Royal Purple runs about $6 to $6.50 per quart in the U.S. Never used it but I've seen it for sale.

[E36 Phantom]

^Use it, its great!

[bounzing_soulz]

I think im going to use it for my next oil change. After reading all this talk about it, I really just want to go ahead and drain what I have to use it, especially since ive gotten into all this Autocross stuff. However I think im going to have to stay with what the dealer gave me a couple weeks back. I am already about 2k into their oil and I think before i head back to school I will put some Royal Purple in.

[bounzing_soulz]

Well i put Royal Purple racing 10w40 oil into my baby today as i had a rather nasty knocking from one (or more) of my hydraulic lifters even though the Mobil 1 oil i had in it (10w40 too) was only about 6 weeks old

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

The car is now virtually tap free and she has got her power back...woohoo. She pulls better at lower revs, she idles perfectly and the power above 4k rpm is DEFINITELY improved.

It was worth every single penny and i advise ALL OF YOU to put it in your car too.

I have also changed my viscous fan and added Purple Ice to my new coolant

All in all, a bloody fantastic day and she is now ready for her 200 mile trip to the BMW festival and her appointment on the Aston Martin Test Track.

I cannot do a video of the track time though as all cameras, phones and video cameras are banned :(

Cue people telling me why i am wrong and that she is not improved at all......


So you used Royal Purple XPR 10w40, and what combonation of Purple Ice and coolent did you use?

It seems as though you really like it. Im quite excited to use it on my car. It is a tap free vehicle and such, I just know it cant hurt to go ahead and use it as a preventative measure especially with the high milage of my car. Also with all the high reving autocross ive been putting it though (only twice but still... it cant be great for the car :rolleyes:) I might as well do all i can to extend the life of my daily driver/fun car. :thumbup:

[Pirate_copy]

Hey buddy

I used 50% water, 30% coolant and 20% Purple Ice

All seems well at the moment. I put her on a racetrack today in the blazing heat and she did 3 laps at WELL over 110mph and the needle never moved. Guess that is normal but i still cant fault it hehehehe :)

[B/\/\W]

I'll buy Royal Purple when it doesn't cost 4 times what it costs in America!

According to Lex Hawkins above, it costs $6.5 per quart, therefore I'd be able to get my 4 litres of oil for $27.50.

Pirate says he got 7 litres for £100, so $200 dollars. That means 4 litres would cost $115 equivalent.

115/27.5 = 4.15 x as expensive!


But having said that, all oil is more expensive here, so Royal Purple would probably not cost an awful lot more than Mobil 1. Something liks £70 compared to £45, (or $140 compared to $90)

[v33_n0d3]

Well i put Royal Purple racing 10w40 oil into my baby today as i had a rather nasty knocking from one (or more) of my hydraulic lifters even though the Mobil 1 oil i had in it (10w40 too) was only about 6 weeks old

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

The car is now virtually tap free and she has got her power back...woohoo. She pulls better at lower revs, she idles perfectly and the power above 4k rpm is DEFINITELY improved.

It was worth every single penny and i advise ALL OF YOU to put it in your car too.

I have also changed my viscous fan and added Purple Ice to my new coolant

All in all, a bloody fantastic day and she is now ready for her 200 mile trip to the BMW festival and her appointment on the Aston Martin Test Track.

I cannot do a video of the track time though as all cameras, phones and video cameras are banned :(

Cue people telling me why i am wrong and that she is not improved at all......
Told ya so. :)

[jh1328]

ok, this time, im believing the hype! i just found a shop which has it like 5 mins from my house so im going tomorrow and getting a supply. thanks for starting this thread guys..i was a week away from using CASTOROL!!! haha jk

[Pirate_copy]

Best of luck buddy, you WONT regret it!!!!

[jh1328]

although id love to be in the board room with the guys who decided to name it "royal purple". or maybe i wouldnt...

[Pirate_copy]

It is Purple too which is cool :)

[nelson22]

hi pirate you had a good day
put royal purple into search engine found a uk seller 5ltrs for £49.94
www.oil-shop-uk.co.uk

[Pirate_copy]

I needed 7 litres buddy and the actual bill was £73.30

Forgot to check it when it arrived:)

[efanton]

I cannot get Royal Purple in Czech republic:cry: but have been comunicating with nearest disti (Italy, who cover central and eastern europe). I can buy from them 12x1 lt or a 19 lt pail ( I assume they mean drum).

Prices are good though, over 2 euro a litre cheaper than what Pirate is paying. Now to work out if I can get it shipped for less than 40 euro. they have offered me a 40% discount:) but I will have to pay 20% sales tax if I cant provide company VAT no. So basically the money I save by going direct to the disti will be wasted on transport.

It might be worth it for members who live close to each other to club together and buy in bulk.



They did provide me with a product sheet that might be useful to other forum members

117134

PM me if you want the disti price list and contact details.

[Pirate_copy]

Good PDF buddy

[B/\/\W]

Good PDF buddy

Yep, that's good to have some basic information to compare to other brands. :thumbup:

[Conehead]

I'll buy Royal Purple when it doesn't cost 4 times what it costs in America!

According to Lex Hawkins above, it costs $6.5 per quart, therefore I'd be able to get my 4 litres of oil for $27.50.

Pirate says he got 7 litres for £100, so $200 dollars. That means 4 litres would cost $115 equivalent.

115/27.5 = 4.15 x as expensive!


But having said that, all oil is more expensive here, so Royal Purple would probably not cost an awful lot more than Mobil 1. Something liks £70 compared to £45, (or $140 compared to $90)


It would be a pretty amazing world for a product to cost the same in each and every country. The price difference would have a lot to do with Govt. policies and import duties.

Pricing update for Aust. Royal Purple 10w-40, 5 litres is $82.50 or 34.64GBP or 70.66us. (conversion current at 7.10PM at conversion at that time)

Note:...This is a direct conversion. It dosnt take into consideration import duties or taxes and is for 5 litres only. Looking at the import duties for the UK, I think Pirate is right on the money.

Cone
XXX

[B/\/\W]

Good info Cone, very cheap :(

[Pirate_copy]

I am moving to Aus!!

[bounzing_soulz]

Hey buddy

I used 50% water, 30% coolant and 20% Purple Ice

All seems well at the moment. I put her on a racetrack today in the blazing heat and she did 3 laps at WELL over 110mph and the needle never moved. Guess that is normal but i still cant fault it hehehehe :)

thanks for that information. I am out of town as of now, but there is another auto-x in a week and im hoping to get it in before the comes around. :)

[Pirate_copy]

Best of luck buddy :)

[barrales]

I got 6 litres of Royal Purple for $45, beat that my european friend.

[barrales]

Can anybody tell me what to do with the EH Gearbox Switch that is stuck in M mode.

[Pirate_copy]

I got 6 litres of Royal Purple for $45, beat that my european friend.

I cant as is is $20 a litre here......

[jh1328]

Can anybody tell me what to do with the EH Gearbox Switch that is stuck in M mode.

take it apart...the switch is obviously stuck, so un-stick it..unless it is a relay or electronic problem, in which you would have to check the wiring of it. also, if you have a question unrelated to the thread at hand, just make a new thread. no worries.

[Pirate_copy]

That told him!! :eeps:

[jh1328]

lol i wasnt tryinggg to haha

[Pirate_copy]

:nono:

[B/\/\W]

Technical questions as opposed to normal off-topic stuff should go in separate threads to get better replies! If the person really wants to find the best answer that is...

[Pirate_copy]

His question wasn't 'off topic' buddy, just in the wrong place hehehe

[B/\/\W]

His question wasn't 'off topic' buddy, just in the wrong place hehehe

Didn't say it was off-topic, I said it was a technical question, as opposed to off-topic! :)

[Pirate_copy]

Confused, will shut up

[B/\/\W]

:)

He asked a technical question in a thread on a different subject, just saying that for his question to be best answered he would need a new thread.

[Pirate_copy]

I agree 100%