Royal Purple Consumer Report

[PhilipWOT]

Although I have tried just about everything on the market I have been a loyal Mobil 1 full-synthetic fluid fan since I started driving. I've found their fluids to satisfy my enthusiastic/spirited driving need in various applications ranging from early 90's turbocharged Japanese sports cars to my current 325is. After discovering Mobil 1 I stopped "shopping around" because I thought "if it aint broke, don't fix it".
And then came BimmerFest... I found tons of threads raving about RP fluids and some of it's fans swear by it so addimently that I thought they bathed in the stuff and poured it over their cereal in the morning. (cough, cough Pete cough)
So I decided to try it out based on the fact that I've never been lead in the wrong direction by anything I've read on the fest. I found the reccomended 10w40 at my local PepBoys for $6.99 per quart, and of course a BMW filter. The first thing that I noticed and thought to be pretty strange was the color of this stuff. It is not only called Royal Purple, it literally is purple motor oil. Wierd. But whatever, no one can see it anyway, right? After I buttoned her back up and began to pull her out of the service bay I noticed that my car was idling smoother than usual and quieter as well. Now keep in mind that I just replaced 3500 mile-old oil so this is to be expected. Was it any quieter than new Mobil 1 would have made it? I dont know.
I drove it home and noticed over all the engine ran very smooth and was purring very nicely. (My M50 has had meticulous maintenance since it's birth and ran like a sewing machine anyway, but I did notice an improvement) I can't say that I noticed any significant bhp increase, as the bottle advertises, but I didn't really expect that anyway. The only power related difference that I did feel was that it feels like it pulls not necessarily harder, but smoother at full throttle in the higher gears. This could be a placebo effect that I only found because I was looking for it, but who knows, the butt-dyno is the only thing I've got access to.
The real kicker for the Royal Purple was something that I didn't notice until the next morning when i started the car. The previous week was around 75-80 degrees and under normal warm conditions my car plays the timing chain song upon start-up for about 4-6 seconds and about 20 "pings" of the chain. This particular morning was about 60 degrees so I expected a few more pings. When I started the car I was ecstatic to hear only 4 pings for about 1 second, followed by a steady beautiful 600rpm idle. . That put a smile on my face.
So although I wasn't blown away by a 30bhp increase, and I'm not getting 65mpg, I do think that RP is worth the extra $20 per oil change over the competitors, and i give it the 'ol :thumbup:.

[Pirate_copy]

Good writeup :)

[PhilipWOT]

Why thank you good sir.
I'll have a Momo shift knob (translation to English: Gear knob) Consumer Report following this one up shortly.

[Pirate_copy]

eh? you mean a gear knob??

[PhilipWOT]

Yes. *fixed*

[Pirate_copy]

cool

I find the right shaped gear knob very important (no jokes lads)

[PhilipWOT]

cool

I find the right shaped gear knob very important (no jokes lads)

:rofl: As do I!
From this point forward I will refer to the language that I speak as "english" with a lower case "e", and the language spoken in England as "English" with a capitol "E" or "silly British talk".

[Pirate_copy]

You speak American...NOT English!!

[PhilipWOT]

You speak American...NOT English!!

LoL! true, however I did take about 14 years worth of classes called "English"

[platinum325]

A Rp thread?.....Someone's gonna die tonight

[Pirate_copy]

A Rp thread?.....Someone's gonna die tonight

I know who i am wishing for!!

[jason_recliner]

You speak American...NOT English!!

As noted by the Americanised spelling
with a capitol "E"

[buster318is]

........and Capitol!!

On a serious note, I've never heard of this 'Royal Purple' until a week ago.

I just changed my oil (by 'I', I mean my mechanic!) but I think next time I will give this stuff a go

But were not alllowed to mention it anymore....... :rofl:

[Pirate_copy]

You mention it as much as you want mate

[PhilipWOT]

It's goos stuff, but I don't know if it so good that it commands "royalty." Maybe it could be "Congressional Purple" or even "Parliamentary Purple." I think that would be more appropriate.

[jason_recliner]

It's goos stuff, but I don't know if it so good that it commands "royalty." Maybe it could be "Congressional Purple" or even "Parliamentary Purple." I think that would be more appropriate.

You mean, only a goose would use it? :D

[Pirate_copy]

:rofl:

[PhilipWOT]

You mean, only a goose would use it? :D

:rofl: Exactly. According to Reuters 2006, Royal Purple was the #1 synthetic among enthusiast water fowl, 3 years running.

[dberch]

Have there been any long-term comparison studies? Say, RP vs brand x, y, and z after 200,000 miles.

[PhilipWOT]

Have there been any long-term comparison studies? Say, RP vs brand x, y, and z after 200,000 miles.

Not yet, but I'll keep you posted. P.M. me in about October 2018.

[B/\/\W]

Not yet, but I'll keep you posted. P.M. me in about October 2018.

I don't think you'll want to be driving your '94 325 then...

[PhilipWOT]

I don't think you'll want to be driving your '94 325 then... I dont see why not. It suits me just fine now. If it's still running, I'll still own it. I may own a 2012 M3 as well, but I doubt I'd get rid of my 325.

[Pirate_copy]

You deleted that last "]" on the quote line so it buggered up your post!

[PhilipWOT]

You deleted that last "]" on the quote line so it buggered up your post!

oops

[B/\/\W]

I don't think you'll want to be driving your '94 325 then...I dont see why not. It suits me just fine now. If it's still running, I'll still own it. I may own a 2012 M3 as well, but I doubt I'd get rid of my 325.

I just don't see why anyone would want to keep hold of a 24 year old car, surely it'll be rusted to hell by then. Okay, maybe for nostalgia, that's all I can think of!

[PhilipWOT]

I just don't see why anyone would want to keep hold of a 24 year old car, surely it'll be rusted to hell by then. Okay, maybe for nostalgia, that's all I can think of!

Surely, because there's no one crazy enough to still have Bavaria 2002. Who would want one of those old rotten things?

[B/\/\W]

Surely, because there's no one crazy enough to still have Bavaria 2002. Who would want one of those old rotten things?

Because it's a classic! I don't see a 325is being a classic, but that's just how I see it.

Does anyone know why the English language says you shouldn't start a sentence with because?

[PhilipWOT]

Because it's a classic! I don't see a 325is being a classic, but that's just how I see it.

I see about 3-5 E30 325's or M3's come into the dealership each week that are kept in pristine condition. Why don't you think people will treat their E36's the same way?

[PhilipWOT]

Because it's a classic! I don't see a 325is being a classic, but that's just how I see it.

Does anyone know why the English language says you shouldn't start a sentence with because?

If you did, it wouldn't be a sentence. It would be a sentence fragment.

[jason_recliner]

I just don't see why anyone would want to keep hold of a 24 year old car, surely it'll be rusted to hell by then. Okay, maybe for nostalgia, that's all I can think of!

I sold my 1972 240Z only a few months ago.

[Conehead]

I just don't see why anyone would want to keep hold of a 24 year old car, surely it'll be rusted to hell by then. Okay, maybe for nostalgia, that's all I can think of!

I still have a 1983 Honda 250 motor bike. I have had it since it was brand new, when I was 16. Its in better condition then some of the 'newer' bikes other staff ride to work on. Its not the only bike I have owned but I cant bring myself to get rid of it.

A good mate of mine has a 1940 Ford Prefect (UK import) thats still roadworthy and registered, and driven at least 4 times a week, but he dosnt use Royal Purple motor oil tho..LOL.

I think the age of a vehicle means jack sh1t, its hows its been treated throughout its life.

Cone
XXX

[Pirate_copy]

As most of the true 'great' cars are no longer in production, keeping or buying an old one is the ONLY option unless you can pay the company to make you a new one..

[PhilipWOT]

Imagine paying BMW to make you a one-off 2008 E30 M3 to your specifications. That would be a dream for me.

[Pirate_copy]

Isn't that what the INDIVIDUAL department is for?

[PhilipWOT]

Isn't that what the INDIVIDUAL department is for?

I don't think they would make an E30 M3....
I dont know, I guess I could be wrong but I've never heard of such a thing happening.

[Pirate_copy]

E30...gotcha

[oilslick]

It's always good to feel you are justified when purchasing a new product. Your experience with RP is partly the placebo you mentioned and perhaps a change in formulation. Not all oils are created the same. AMSOIL synthetics have led the way in innovation for the past 34 years and if you would care to compare several different oils, the independent tests are available. Just contact me for more information.

[Pirate_copy]

Do you sell it?? Cos from that schpiel, it looks like you do!!

You dont look like a sponsor to me so trying to sell stuff on here is not allowed!!

AMSOIL.....:rofl::rofl:

[PhilipWOT]

Do you sell it?? Cos from that schpiel, it looks like you do!!

You dont look like a sponsor to me so trying to sell stuff on here is not allowed!!

AMSOIL.....:rofl::rofl:

Isn't Amsoil some kind of old automotive "snake oil" cure-all circa 1970? :rofl:

[Pirate_copy]

Thats what i thought....

Maybe they started making synthetic now

I make no comment on the oil, just annoys me when people try to advertise on the fest without becoming a supporter

[Dave Hybrid]

I did the Royal Purple and NGK Iridium treatment on Friday.

It has completely transformed my car.

It is quieter and a nasty knock has completely gone.

It is also so responsive, revs so much better and is definitely quicker, can get the arse out in second now which before was impossible.

[Pirate_copy]

Another satisfied customer :)

[jtsailjt]

Thats what i thought....

Maybe they started making synthetic now

I make no comment on the oil, just annoys me when people try to advertise on the fest without becoming a supporter
:rofl::rofl::rofl: So his one post in favor of Amsoil makes him "annoying" but your many dozens of posts in favor of RP make you ...ahem.:yikes: His sig says he drives a 325i so what's the problem with him stating his opinion just like everyone else? Except that he was so bold as to say something besides "all hail the BMW magic elixir RP?"

[Pirate_copy]

1 - Get off my case

2 - his post was very much written like he was a salesman for AMSOIL. He even says "contact me for more information"

If he isn't, then cool but if he is then he should know it is not allowed

You will also see that i didn't say if Amsoil was good or bad. I have not even seen the synthetic stuff over here. I do not only champion RP either, it is not good for all cars. Plus if someone asked for opinions, i am naturally going to give the one i think is correct

Yet again i find myself justifying myself to you....interesting!!

[jtsailjt]

1 - Get off my case

2 - his post was very much written like he was a salesman for AMSOIL. He even says "contact me for more information"

If he isn't, then cool but if he is then he should know it is not allowed

You will also see that i didn't say if Amsoil was good or bad.



AMSOIL.....:rofl::rofl:

If you weren't stating an opinion whether Amsoil was good or bad, then what did you mean by the :rofl::rofl:?

You apparently have NO evidence at all the he sells Amsoil except that it "sounds" that way to you in his single post on the subject. Maybe he does or maybe he doesn't, but we don't really know. How about entertaining the possibility that your many dozens of posts in favor of RP sound even more like you are selling THAT product? You have freely offered your opinion on YOUR favorite oil (many, many, many times and that's certainly your right) so why do you detect something nefarious in his offer to supply more information about HIS favorite oil to those who are interested enough to contact him? At least he's not endlessly and repetitively cramming this "more information" down our collective throats over and over and over again.

If you don't like me "on your case," then limit your posts to BMW issues and stop being belittling and critical of individual posters, and I'll give you that same respect and extend you that same courtesy.

[Pirate_copy]

Oh goodie, i will have your respect. That is all i crave

I post opinions on MANY MANY things and will continue to champion whatever i please. That is why we are here

I dedicate a lot of my time to this forum as i love to help people (yourself included). If you dont like what i post, add me to your ignore list....VERY simple

If that isn't sufficient, then you are more than welcome to report my posts to the moderators and let them deal with it (the little red triangle in the top right of each post)

I always thought that i was being helpful and i try my hardest to keep the fest on the straight and narrow where i can.

I annoy at least one person a month, this month it is your turn....congratulations. But when you spend as much time on here as i do, you are bound to annoy someone!!

(check it out, i wrote a whole post without swearing....are you proud???)

[jtsailjt]

Oh goodie, i will have your respect. That is all i crave

I post opinions on MANY MANY things and will continue to champion whatever i please. That is why we are here

I dedicate a lot of my time to this forum as i love to help people (yourself included). If you dont like what i post, add me to your ignore list....VERY simple

If that isn't sufficient, then you are more than welcome to report my posts to the moderators and let them deal with it (the little red triangle in the top right of each post)

I always thought that i was being helpful and i try my hardest to keep the fest on the straight and narrow where i can.

I annoy at least one person a month, this month it is your turn....congratulations. But when you spend as much time on here as i do, you are bound to annoy someone!!

(check it out, i wrote a whole post without swearing....are you proud???)

Why should I put YOU on ignore, you're the one whining about me being "on your case?" Actually, I prefer to not put you on "ignore" because I have learned a lot about my car from you.

I have never criticized ANY of your posts that were on the "straight and narrow" and pertained (even slightly) to anything having to do with BMW's. But I don't consider using the "F" bomb OR belittling/criticizing other posters because something they say "sounds" to you like an advertisement for a product that is a competitor of a brand of oil that you've been doing your level best to convince everyone else to use in countless posts on this very forum, to be helpful to anyone. That is specifically what I've criticized. I like reading all kinds of opinions about BMW issues or even about which brand of motor oil is best to use in my car, but I believe the intent of this forum is that the discussion have some basis in fact and not be merely critical of the poster because of an assumption you have made about his motivation. The guy who prefers Amsoil has just as much right to say that and offer his reasons why as you do to prefer RP.

As I said before, I'll extend the same respect and courtesy to you that you extend to others. Your numerous helpful and informational posts are nice, but IMHO they don't buy you the right to attempt to bully other posters when they do something as innocuous as favoring a brand of motor oil that is different than the one you favor.

[Pirate_copy]

Ok, well this has gone on long enough! (on the board at least)

If you wish to continue, feel free to PM me

I personally am going to move on. You are welcome to take this as my submission

Goodbye

[oilslick]

Apparently I didn't read the fine print. I have used AMSOIL for 31 years and am a great proponent of synthetics. I present information on synthetics at seminars and gladly help people understand the difference between conventional lubricants and synthetic. There are differences and BMW owners can benefit from their use.
Yes, I do sell them and will investigate becoming a sponsor, since it isn't allowed to "sell" something without being a sponsor. This was my first visit to the site and now I know the rest of the story.:)

[Pirate_copy]

No worries, no harm done

I too have an apology, i got Amsoil mixed up with another brand :)