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Kaz
03-17-2003, 09:36 AM
OK, I realize this isn't any hotbed of MINI fans, but I though I'd post this.

As a value proposition it sure seems like a better deal than the $3900 for the 330i's ZHP.

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Super-Duper Mini Cooper: John Cooper Works-tuned Mini puts the emphasis on ‘Works’

By MIKE DUFF
$4,500. That's approximately how much it'll run you to convert a Cooper S to super-duper.
Premium products have premium prices.

That’s the way the world works: If something is worth having, then it’s worth spending money on. Even so, the Mini Cooper S pushes the edges of the pay-vs.-get equation: so small, so expensive. “Worth every penny!” scream legions of fans. Perhaps, but how about an even faster—and more expensive—Cooper?

The John Cooper Works performance pack for the Cooper S arrives Stateside in April, offering 200-hp and 177-lb-ft in exchange for (gulp) approximately $4,500 when you include installation cost.

John Cooper Works Mini Cooper S
# ON SALE: April
# PACKAGE PRICE: $4,500 est. (plus installation)
# POWERTRAIN: 1.6-liter, 200-hp, 177-lb-ft, supercharged I4, fwd, six-speed manual
# CURB WEIGHT: 2455 pounds
# 0-60 MPH: 6.3 seconds (est.)
# TOP SPEED: 141 mph (mfr.)

Other Mini tuning kits exist, of course, several of which promise the same (or more) power for less cash. But the “Works” package, also available for the standard Cooper, is the only one that comes through Mini dealers, with factory approval and full manufacturer warranty support.

As its name suggests, the oldest Mini tuner around engineered it. John Cooper, already a successful racing driver and team owner, took the original Alec Issigonis-designed Mini and turned it into an eponymous giant slayer, dominating much of 1960’s rallying and touring car racing. Cooper died three years ago, but his legacy lives on in the name of the production Mini and his tuning company, now managed by son Michael.

Ingredients for the über-Cooper include a supercharger with revised gearing that gives it more whiz and boost. There are also some reworked low-friction internals: hotter cams, a keener ECU, and a shiny new silencer on the muffler aims to reduce exhaust back pressure. Other than a discrete “John Cooper Works” badge, that’s the limit of the changes. The pack can be installed on a new car or retrofitted onto an existing car.

The JCW Cooper feels only marginally different to the standard Cooper S in urban crawl. Its exhaust note is slightly raspier—a pleasing “bup-bup-bup” on the overrun—and the supercharger’s whine marginally more nasal. The throttle response—already attack-dog keen on the S—is sharper still. Other than that, you’ll wonder if the hole in your account has been worth it.

That is until you get onto empty country roads where this Super Cooper’s case improves dramatically. In the middle of the rev counter, a fat seam of can-do torque makes for serious, any-gear overtaking punch (bringing to mind the ’60s British bumper sticker: “You’ve Been Mini’d!”).

At the top quarter of the rev range the JCW is better yet, losing the standard S’s slight breathlessness. Acceleration has an addictive exponential feel: it pulls harder and harder all the way to redline. With the quick shift of the six-speed transmission lending support and the supercharger’s charismatic wail shouting encouragement, it’s not long before you’ve hit 100 mph—and the very real prospect of a night in the gray bar hotel.

The standard chassis bits are more than up to handling the 37 extra horses. Torque steer isn’t an issue, certainly without ridiculous first or second gear acceleration over big bumps. The extra power helps to balance the chassis on faster corners if you adopt the age-old front-drive technique of fast-in, fast-out: throw it in at an optimistic speed, accelerate until the front starts to nudge wide and then throttle back into a big, fat zone of exploitable neutrality. It would be an exceptionally well-driven Porsche Boxster that manages to pull ground over the Works S through a sequence of bends.

That’s a key to understanding here. Sure, with a couple of well-chosen options the JCW-equipped Cooper S will push $30,000, serious green for a dinky sub-subcompact. But for a Boxster-baiting, German engineered sports coupe massaged by one of the most highly regarded tuners in the world? It’s almost a bargain.

alee
03-17-2003, 10:05 AM
I think this is the kit:
JCW Tuning Kit (http://cairns.mistral.co.uk/cgi-bin/johncooper/hazel.exe?action=SERVE&item=bmwmini/products/conversions/jcw_s_tuningkit.htm)

Mr. The Edge
03-17-2003, 10:34 AM
:thumbup:

alee
03-17-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by atyclb
:thumbup:
When are you getting yours? :dunno: :D

Mr. The Edge
03-17-2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by alee
When are you getting yours? :dunno: :D
as soon as mrs. bono asks for it...

(not holding my breath) :D

alee
03-17-2003, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by atyclb
as soon as mrs. bono asks for it...

(not holding my breath) :D
You could disable the supercharger. When she she says "honey the car's running slow lately" you can tell her about this great kit that's available. :thumbup:

Dr. Phil
03-17-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by alee
You could disable the supercharger. When she she says "honey the car's running slow lately" you can tell her about this great kit that's available. :thumbup:
:angel:



:D Good thinking Al :str8pimpi

Leif
03-19-2003, 03:11 PM
Wait for the DINAN package! It will give a rumored 217 hp and cost less than the Cooper kit. (John Cooper didn't engineer that kit. He has been dead for years!) DINAN kits will carry the same warranty as BMW and be legal in all 50 states.

Kaz
03-19-2003, 03:16 PM
I just have some bad vibes about anything touched by the hand of Steve Dinan.

Leif
03-19-2003, 03:50 PM
Bad vibes? Please expand!
I work for a shop that installs the DINAN products. We do well over $50 grand a quarter of DINAN parts and have for some time. We have yet to have any come-backs on the parts. Everything fits perfectly and the quality is up to BMW standards. That is why the DINAN parts are the only ones allowed to be installed on a BMW that is still under warranty. Enough said!

Mr. The Edge
03-19-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Leif
Bad vibes? Please expand!
I work for a shop that installs the DINAN products. We do well over $50 grand a quarter of DINAN parts and have for some time. We have yet to have any come-backs on the parts. Everything fits perfectly and the quality is up to BMW standards. That is why the DINAN parts are the only ones allowed to be installed on a BMW that is still under warranty. Enough said!

how are DINAN's M5 customers doing?

Leif
03-19-2003, 04:20 PM
At this time there is not a whole bunch available for the e39 ///M5. We will see some new things in early summer. All we have done so far are cold air intakes, throttle bodies and differentials. Nothing has had any problems. There was at one time a bad batch of carbon fiber parts that would crack. (that was not for the ///M5) That has been handled at no cost to the customers. We never had any problems since none of the parts we installed/sold cracked.

scottn2retro
03-19-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Leif
Wait for the DINAN package! It will give a rumored 217 hp and cost less than the Cooper kit. (John Cooper didn't engineer that kit. He has been dead for years!) DINAN kits will carry the same warranty as BMW and be legal in all 50 states.

Hi Leif, good to see you over here.

btw, don't mod your Mini - we want to see you racing in the new Spec Mini class in BMW Club racing or NASA! :D

Alex Baumann
03-25-2003, 12:32 PM
What ? No pics ? :tsk: ;)

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/31086.jpg

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/31085.jpg

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/31084.jpg

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/31087.jpg

Mr. The Edge
03-25-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Alex Baumann
What ? No pics ? :tsk: ;)


:D

http://cairns.mistral.co.uk/bmwmini/products/conversions/hires/jcw_s_kit_hires.jpg

Mr. The Edge
03-25-2003, 12:43 PM
http://cairns.mistral.co.uk/bmwmini/products/conversions/hires/jcw_s_enginebay_hires.jpg

http://cairns.mistral.co.uk/bmwmini/products/accessories/hires/jcw_access_wheel_hires.jpg

http://cairns.mistral.co.uk/bmwmini/products/accessories/hires/jcw_access_seat_hires.jpg

http://www.mini2.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=306907

turbomike
04-06-2003, 06:50 PM
What is "Corrected Power (PS)" ? Is that SEA Net?

Leif
04-07-2003, 10:03 AM
I don't think SEA net is used any more when it comes to hp ratings. Usually the German DIN rating is used by most automotive manufacturers. DIN is measured with all accessories on the engine, like fan, starter, alternator etc. I also believe it is measured with the flywheel on and at the flywheel. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Raffi
04-09-2003, 10:30 PM
Welcome to the 'fest Leif.

Raffi - from TechFest West 2003! :D

FSelekler
04-10-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by turbomike
What is "Corrected Power (PS)" ? Is that SEA Net?

Corrected power is the power calculated after dyno runs to compensate for temp changes and few other variables. The 200 hp and 117 trq is at 20 deg Celcius. As Kaz's msg states at lower temps, they claim to have gone up to 217 hp.