my "work experience" experience

[DominguesE30]

I had to do work experience for school in the electrical industry. Soo i did it with a electrician
Its the worst thing ever and im OVER IT!
I get treated like crap, they make me look like an idiot, the work is SH!T, i got all the crap jobs like drilling a hole in a double brick wall 4 meters up. I had to use an extention ladder...

Im thinking about being a carpenter now....
Ohh and my bmw is all dirty now.:mad:

[Pirate_copy]

We all have to start at the bottom buddy and work our way up!!

[DominguesE30]

nah, this was just crap!
I work in a butcher. I clean up after the butchers and stuff. They treat me the best and the pay is like 2x more than this work experience crap.
And they treat me like a freind...

[320what?]

this is not OT because? :)

[Kamdog]

He did mention he got his BMW dirty.......

[ianiac]

Yeah man.. thats life.. Don't do it if you hate it. Be sure to look at the long term.. And go wash your car.. Thats what I'm doing now..

[jarozila]

Sorry to hear that you were not treated well. Have you thought about being a BMW mechanic?

[buster318is]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

EVERYONE has done a sh*t job before - etleast you know it suxs before you make it a career!! :D

[B/\/\W]

EVERYONE has done a sh*t job before

Er actually, I haven't! :D No job to be precise

[mrfraser89]

you get paid less than the butcher because it's work experience. in Australia at least, they can get away with paying less because it is seen as though they have to spend time training or teaching you. This is how it is for all work experience, apprenticeships and traineeships :)

I guess if you don't enjoy it you should leave it, but I'd give it some time yet.

How do you meant they treat you poorly?

[buster318is]

Er actually, I haven't! :D No job to be precise

Lucky man!!

[320what?]

i worked on a corn factory, as life guard, as janitor, as waiter... as car salesman, as market analyst, as banking associate. still in banking now. i guess it all takes time and unless daddy is rich and gets you good job and opens doors for you, you gotta go the way.

nothing wrong with rich daddy btw.

[B/\/\W]

i worked on a corn factory, as life guard, as janitor, as waiter... as car salesman, as market analyst, as banking associate. still in banking now. i guess it all takes time and unless daddy is rich and gets you good job and opens doors for you, you gotta go the way.

nothing wrong with rich daddy btw.

Haha my dad isn't rich, I'm a penniless student living off loans. :D

[DominguesE30]

you get paid less than the butcher because it's work experience. in Australia at least, they can get away with paying less because it is seen as though they have to spend time training or teaching you. This is how it is for all work experience, apprenticeships and traineeships :)

I guess if you don't enjoy it you should leave it, but I'd give it some time yet.

How do you meant they treat you poorly?
expected me to know everything, cracked it when i didnt know something or couldnt do something, gave me all the Sh!t jobs. Stuff like that

[TheOnlyE36]

We all have to start at the bottom buddy and work our way up!!

Like with everything else
Wax on wax off:rofl:

[TheOnlyE36]

nah, this was just crap!
I work in a butcher. I clean up after the butchers and stuff. They treat me the best and the pay is like 2x more than this work experience crap.
And they treat me like a freind...

I learned that from my father it's just work and not your life the bast way is not to get to friendly with your co-workers but respect them, it will work the best at the end. You gone have to work anyways, and I told the same thing to my self oh this job is **** not it's really you. You'll get a new job and in few months you'll be saying the same thing and you'll be at the bottom again as Pirate said. Some people just wont give you respect right away but you have to respect them to a point! :blah:

[TheOnlyE36]

I had to do work experience for school in the electrical industry. Soo i did it with a electrician
Its the worst thing ever and im OVER IT!
I get treated like crap, they make me look like an idiot, the work is SH!T, i got all the crap jobs like drilling a hole in a double brick wall 4 meters up. I had to use an extention ladder...

Im thinking about being a carpenter now....
Ohh and my bmw is all dirty now.:mad:

My car is covered in antifreeze! It doesnt get any better then that:confused:

[Pirate_copy]

Work is my life.....

[TheOnlyE36]

Work is my life.....

For some of us it is and some of us are cool with that. If you dont minde asking what do you do for work?

[Pirate_copy]

I am a software programmer for a massive law firm buddy

u?

[TheOnlyE36]

Very nice! I have a ceramic tile business. Nothing big but it does the trick and bikes on the side but that is more like a hobby!

[jtsailjt]

Dom, As the new guy, you've got to expect to get all the crap jobs, that just comes with the territory of being a newbie. But the good news is that pretty soon somebody else will get hired and you won't be the newest newbie any more. So for the very short period of time when that title (and the crap jobs) is yours, do them all with a smile on your face and let them all just wonder why you're SO damned cheerful and they can't get you down. The negative attention will quickly fade because the type of person who gets off on making others miserable won't be getting any satisfaction from you so he'll move on to another victim. That type of person has to go through their whole life exposed to their own miserable attitude eating at them, and you only have to put up with it for a short time.:)

I have no idea how it is where you live, but some (unenlightened!) people make judgments about BMW drivers, and considering your age, if you lived here, when you drove up to the job site in your Bimmer there would be people who just assumed that you were a spoiled rich kid and it was their DUTY to take you down a peg or two. Stupid attitude, but that's how it is.

Maybe it's too late for this electrician thing, but next time you find yourself in a similar situation, NEVER let them know they're getting you down!:thumbup:

[PhilipWOT]

Work is my life.....

+1 unfortunately :thumbdwn:

[DominguesE30]

i think ill become a carpenter now

[DominguesE30]

Dom, As the new guy, you've got to expect to get all the crap jobs, that just comes with the territory of being a newbie. But the good news is that pretty soon somebody else will get hired and you won't be the newest newbie any more. So for the very short period of time when that title (and the crap jobs) is yours, do them all with a smile on your face and let them all just wonder why you're SO damned cheerful and they can't get you down. The negative attention will quickly fade because the type of person who gets off on making others miserable won't be getting any satisfaction from you so he'll move on to another victim. That type of person has to go through their whole life exposed to their own miserable attitude eating at them, and you only have to put up with it for a short time.:)

I have no idea how it is where you live, but some (unenlightened!) people make judgments about BMW drivers, and considering your age, if you lived here, when you drove up to the job site in your Bimmer there would be people who just assumed that you were a spoiled rich kid and it was their DUTY to take you down a peg or two. Stupid attitude, but that's how it is.

Maybe it's too late for this electrician thing, but next time you find yourself in a similar situation, NEVER let them know they're getting you down!:thumbup:
He commented on my bimmer.
'who's bemmer is that?"
"mine"
"ok..."

It was super clean too cause the day before i gave it a full detail, polish and wax. I think it might of screwed me up slightly....

[TheOnlyE36]

Dom, As the new guy, you've got to expect to get all the crap jobs, that just comes with the territory of being a newbie. But the good news is that pretty soon somebody else will get hired and you won't be the newest newbie any more. So for the very short period of time when that title (and the crap jobs) is yours, do them all with a smile on your face and let them all just wonder why you're SO damned cheerful and they can't get you down. The negative attention will quickly fade because the type of person who gets off on making others miserable won't be getting any satisfaction from you so he'll move on to another victim. That type of person has to go through their whole life exposed to their own miserable attitude eating at them, and you only have to put up with it for a short time.:)

I have no idea how it is where you live, but some (unenlightened!) people make judgments about BMW drivers, and considering your age, if you lived here, when you drove up to the job site in your Bimmer there would be people who just assumed that you were a spoiled rich kid and it was their DUTY to take you down a peg or two. Stupid attitude, but that's how it is.

Maybe it's too late for this electrician thing, but next time you find yourself in a similar situation, NEVER let them know they're getting you down!:thumbup:
You 100% right there. People do look at you different when pulled up in a BMW. I think its kind of funny. When when you taking something to the dump with you truck you don't get notice. But when you are in BMW people wave to you smile and stupid **** like that. I don't get it

[DominguesE30]

buh, i get alot of looks. Especially from couples who just stare and give me greasies...

[Pirate_copy]

I work in IT, so am expected to drive a BMW

The other staff hate us whatever we drive!!

[DominguesE30]

lol

[jtsailjt]

He commented on my bimmer.
'who's bemmer is that?"
"mine"
"ok..."

It was super clean too cause the day before i gave it a full detail, polish and wax. I think it might of screwed me up slightly....

In a situation like that (even though he SHOULD keep his attitudes about your car separate from the job) I would take it a step further and let him know that your Bimmer is your favorite hobby (well, except for girls;)) and talk about all the stuff you've done to it yourself and all the times you'vs skinned your knuckles. Pretty soon he'd realize that his initial assumption about you being just another spoiled rich kid was wrong and you are someone who knows quite a lot about your car and is not afraid to get your hands dirty and he'll probably respect that. For example, you could show him how you installed those angel eyes and the considerations you made and then ask him to take a quick look at how you hooked them up and when he says something like "You should have hooked this light up a little different because...," discuss it (don't argue) with him and pretty soon, he's finding himself thinking about BMW's (and you) in a whole different way.

You 100% right there. People do look at you different when pulled up in a BMW. I think its kind of funny. When when you taking something to the dump with you truck you don't get notice. But when you are in BMW people wave to you smile and stupid **** like that. I don't get it

I split my driving pretty equally between my Bimmer and my Toyota Tacoma and you definitely notice a difference, especially out in the country!

[DominguesE30]

yeah i should have done that. He is very knowledged in vechiles aswell. He owns his own speedboat and maintains it. Every 10 hours he strips the engine and rebuilts it :S

[jtsailjt]

yeah i should have done that. He is very knowledged in vechiles aswell. He owns his own speedboat and maintains it. Every 10 hours he strips the engine and rebuilts it :SI certainly learned that lesson the hard way too and it's tough because you never really know what you're up against as far as weird attitudes go. But once someone gets to know you, I think you should have a lot of confidence that they (no matter what their biases are) will eventually see that you're somebody who is a lot more interesting and mature than just a spoiled, BMW driving, rich kid. If that electrician is SO into his speed boat, I bet that you could really hit it off. So much of what you have learned about your car and what he knows about his boat is transferrable that you could both probably help each other. Maybe you couldn't (and shouldn't) yet say much to really help him with his boat, but I bet that if he showed it to you, that you would notice and appreciate subtle things he's done to it that most people wouldn't even notice. And he'd probably be very flattered by that!

I've had a 44' sailboat for the last 10 years and in that time I've extensively modified the systems so it's much more user friendly and efficient and just make more sense. Unless you're REALLY into sailboats, you wouldn't even see most of them though. So when I recently had a guest onboard who DID notice just about EVERYTHING I have done, understood why, and approved of all the mods, I thought he was a VERY smart person;). But seriously, it's natural to be able to relate better to people that you feel like you share something with, especially when it's something that most people know very little about.

[Pirate_copy]

We have a boat too (well mum does)

She is called Pandora :)

Back on topic, i agree with the above totally

[jtsailjt]

We have a boat too (well mum does)

She is called Pandora :)

Back on topic, i agree with the above totally

Is Pandora a Mercedes "boat?" I just looked at your mums garage and 2 things occurred to me.
1. That S type Jag is an absolutely stunning car!

2. If your mum ever needs help driving the bridesmaids around, I'm here to help! OMG, I HOPE that you've already volunteered for that "position.";)

[Kamdog]

Well, it looks like you are actually gaining some experience from the work, and the insight of people on this board. Do you feel a bit better now?

[PhilipWOT]

We have a boat too (well mum does)

She is called Pandora :)

Back on topic, i agree with the above totally

Jeez, what kind of IT work do you do? What type of company?

[Pirate_copy]

Is Pandora a Mercedes "boat?" I just looked at your mums garage and 2 things occurred to me.
1. That S type Jag is an absolutely stunning car!

2. If your mum ever needs help driving the bridesmaids around, I'm here to help! OMG, I HOPE that you've already volunteered for that "position.";)

1. She is isn't she :)
2. I will let her know, we always need drivers :rofl:

Pandora is a sailing boat (the biggest in the harbour). I say that not as a brag, but cos it is all i know about it hehehehe

Philip, i work for a lawyers. I develop their management and operational systems

[PhilipWOT]

I am not even sure what that means.
Do you write software? What type of post secondary education did that require.
The reason I ask is that I am considering changing college majors and I want to explore all possibilities before I commit to something else.

[Pirate_copy]

I write software!

No education except basic school exams, a race licence and a natural ability to use computers (so they say)

[PhilipWOT]

I write software!

No education except basic school exams, a race licence and a natural ability to use computers (so they say)


:rofl: Was that one of the employment prerequisites for the job?

[Pirate_copy]

No, but it indirectly got me to where i am today. I got the interview for the company i worked for a while back cos i get the recruiter tickets to the Grand Prix. From there i joined a firm working in IT and now i am here

I may not have had qualifications when i started doing this 5 years ago but am top of my game now....literally!!

[PhilipWOT]

No, but it indirectly got me to where i am today. I got the interview for the company i worked for a while back cos i get the recruiter tickets to the Grand Prix. From there i joined a firm working in IT and now i am here

I may not have had qualifications when i started doing this 5 years ago but am top of my game now....literally!!

Thats pretty cool. You've been doing that since you were 20?

[Pirate_copy]

yeah

[PhilipWOT]

I've spent the majority of my working life since high school bartending. Not quite as lucrative, but alot more fun I suspect. I need to find myself a career so I can pick a good major. I'm currently a Marketing/Advertisement major but I dont think I'm going to stay in that program. Not enough jobs in it.

[nahugry]

I wouldn't change my career or to be thereof, for the reason that I had a bad experience.
Unless you have connections high up or didn't get in on the "Good Line" right away, it's bound to be shi**y in the beginning. If everyone quit and decided to change careers, then there wouldn't be a single decent electrician out there.
Friend of mine owns a $80M/yr General contracting business. People in the skilled trademen business are very particular to who they work with and will bash the living sh*t out of you until you earn their respect. That's simply what happens in the industry.
Its the samething in the white collar industry too, but maybe the bashing goes on behind the scenes more often.
You have to persevere and handle your sh*t before you can earn the respect. Once you have it, they're gonna be like your brother. They'll show you the ropes and take care of you like you were a family.

[nahugry]

I'm currently a Marketing/Advertisement major but I dont think I'm going to stay in that program. Not enough jobs in it.

There are more than plenty of jobs in that field my friend.
The problems companies have is finding a truly skilled person to take the position.
The turn around in that part of the trade is quite high but trust me, there are MORE than plenty of opportunities in that field.