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1995_e36M3Blue
10-14-2007, 08:30 PM
For those of you who live for the drive, the rally is just right for you. However, after the great dissapointment of last years unnofficial rally the question must be asked if the year we will be privilaged enough to have an official drive. The pattern seems to be that every other year there is an official rally so lets hope that tradition remains.

Euro Styln
10-15-2007, 05:11 PM
what you mean by rally there.

jvr826
10-15-2007, 05:27 PM
I think it's "officially" over.

1995_e36M3Blue
10-17-2007, 04:12 PM
the rally is the event which follow immediatly after the prize drawings. It is a cruise that goes up the coatsline then comes back and around and ends right near the showgrounds. But due to the lack of intelligence in some of the attendees those of us who are responsible most likey wont be able to enjoy the real thing as opposed to an unnofficial drive like last year.

Jon Shafer
10-17-2007, 09:00 PM
I wish there was a (sane) way to do this as the Bimmerfest Road Rally was always my most favorite part of the day and the experience. A few years ago it started to get too big and out of control. Then there were freeway accidents, drivers getting ticketed for excessive speed (100 mph range), and complete idiots spinning donuts and spraying gravel on the other cars while showing off on the freeway offramps.

If somebody would be willing to take the initiative to contact the CHP and coordinate an escort and traffic management for the full loop, we could bring it back....

SL Blak Soldier
10-26-2007, 01:31 AM
If somebody would be willing to take the initiative to contact the CHP and coordinate an escort and traffic management for the full loop, we could bring it back....

That would be the SHIET! somebody talk to chp!

Euro Styln
10-29-2007, 02:56 PM
the rally is the event which follow immediatly after the prize drawings. It is a cruise that goes up the coatsline then comes back and around and ends right near the showgrounds. But due to the lack of intelligence in some of the attendees those of us who are responsible most likey wont be able to enjoy the real thing as opposed to an unnofficial drive like last year.

ahh i would love to do that, but would that mean missing the actually bimmerfest show. uhh hold on i dont remember around what time was 07's drawing toward the end right or what time.

sk8erfox805
11-18-2007, 09:33 PM
I would love to ride with a lot of bimmers on the freeway

Ronnaferd
11-19-2007, 03:37 PM
In 2006 there was somebody handing out little flyers giving information on the un-official rally and that seemed to work out pretty good. This way those who want to drive together afterwards can meet and the responsibilty isn't put on anyone or bimmerfest. Everyone will be responsible for their own actions :)

Dave 330i
12-21-2007, 06:18 AM
Having a CHP escort is possible, but is that what the rally enthusiasts want? Probably not.

http://vmaxoutlaw.com/events/documentary/index.htm

SL Blak Soldier
12-25-2007, 04:44 PM
Having a CHP escort is possible, but is that what the rally enthusiasts want? Probably not.

http://vmaxoutlaw.com/events/documentary/index.htm

i don't see what would be so bad about it? i mean they are going to be out in force anyways, we might as well have them on our side instead of against us.

Paul Christian
12-25-2007, 08:16 PM
I would to this too,but I am 50/50 at this point of time and too far to help out on the setting this up with som of you guys....it can be done with CHP too but it may cost abit for that...I hope I can make it this year too...cheers.....

BmwE36
12-26-2007, 12:53 AM
i'm am going to call the CHP office around that area and see if we can arrange something with them, because i love that rally.

slixx1320
12-26-2007, 09:24 PM
That's a pretty good ideal, having the CHP on our side and guiding the whole rally...but to honestly think they would do it is totally out of the question.

SL Blak Soldier
01-02-2008, 07:54 PM
i'm am going to call the CHP office around that area and see if we can arrange something with them, because i love that rally.

any word yet?

BmwE36
01-07-2008, 12:33 AM
i called and left a message for them, they should be getting back to me soon, i'll keep you guys updated

LBMotoring
01-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Pretend we are having a funeral, and we need an escort :P

BruinGM
01-17-2008, 05:36 PM
Just started perusing the CA vehicle code and found this:

Division 11 Chapter 3 Article 2

21705. Motor vehicles being driven outside of a business or residence district in a caravan or motorcade, whether or not towing other vehicles, shall be so operated as to allow sufficient space and in no event less than 100 feet between each vehicle or combination of vehicles so as to enable any other vehicle to overtake or pass.

So the actual act of all of us driving together is NOT illegal as long as we leave enough room for other cars to overtake or pass any of us.

Now I think the problem we have is gathering everyone up and stoping on the side of the road. Can someone help out and browse through the Vehicle Code to see what the laws are? Here is the link to the CA VC:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vctoc.htm

reidconti
02-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Just started perusing the CA vehicle code and found this:

Division 11 Chapter 3 Article 2

21705. Motor vehicles being driven outside of a business or residence district in a caravan or motorcade, whether or not towing other vehicles, shall be so operated as to allow sufficient space and in no event less than 100 feet between each vehicle or combination of vehicles so as to enable any other vehicle to overtake or pass.

So the actual act of all of us driving together is NOT illegal as long as we leave enough room for other cars to overtake or pass any of us.

Now I think the problem we have is gathering everyone up and stoping on the side of the road. Can someone help out and browse through the Vehicle Code to see what the laws are? Here is the link to the CA VC:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/vctoc.htm

I think the Gilroy caravan fails this test.. Though I think it was 2 years ago that the cop made his way allll the way thru our 140+ car caravan from behind, no problems, didn't pull anyone over :)

bimmerguy2006
02-08-2008, 07:13 PM
Problem is the number of idiots that treat the road like a track during the caravan; and unfortunately there is no real way of keeping them out of the group. I think the last 2 years of doing a more covert caravan is a better way of making sure some of them don't make it, but there's always one or two that ruin it. If you want to set up a drive - early morning before the fest might be better - keep it hush hush. When you get a couple hundred cars together though there is no easy way of organizing it.

euroe28m5
02-13-2008, 09:02 AM
Did anyone hear back from the CHP? We could develop by-laws and have participants sign a "hold harmless" agreement that would shield the orginizers of the event from any litigation? I am not a lawyer, but I think there are a few participants that are. Just a thought.

reidconti
02-13-2008, 10:11 AM
Yeah but good luck finding someone to take that on. Those releases are never airtight.

I spend enough time behind the wheel. Time not spent stuck in traffic trying to "rally" = time that could be spend 'relaxing' at the hotel with good b'fest friends. :beerchug:

Manix
02-14-2008, 04:58 AM
The unofficial caravans work just as well IMO. Last year I ended up leading a bunch of people through the 154 as they were heading back up north. It started with 5 other cars and when I turned around to head back to my home there were about 40+ bimmers that had tagged along and became a caravan. I'm lookin' forward to this year's drive(s).

BruinGM
04-30-2008, 04:09 PM
So.....are we having an unofficial Rally?

We should have a meeting at the event to organize.

RaDs330
05-01-2008, 11:02 PM
so whats the word?????

Euro Styln
05-02-2008, 10:41 AM
anyone

RaDs330
05-02-2008, 10:47 AM
well from the looks of it, they arent gonna have one

bimmernate
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
i'd be down!

smilez
05-02-2008, 11:01 AM
--^ no you wont. :shifty

bimmernate
05-02-2008, 11:11 AM
--^ no you wont. :shifty

I see your posts all the time, I better see your car!

RaDs330
05-02-2008, 11:12 AM
I see your posts all the time, I better see your car!

WHATS YOUR RIDE BRO

smilez
05-02-2008, 11:22 AM
I see your posts all the time, I better see your car!

you will. If you see some signs on my car "Inland Empire leader" on the front windshield, two rear windows, and rear window, thats my car .

Euro Styln
05-02-2008, 02:10 PM
comon the best part about it is the drive. i would love to go drive in the canyons with bunch of bimmers.

BruinGM
05-06-2008, 03:05 PM
So what happened to the Rally? I went up the 101 after the fest and didn't see anyone...probably 2 sets of 2 BMWs.....

I was really looking forward to it.

reidconti
05-06-2008, 03:11 PM
... you expected to randomly run into the rally just by driving north on 101??

TeKNiC3
05-06-2008, 03:24 PM
Saw two groups drive FAST by me and my buddies when we were going back to San Jose.

There were CHP's everywhere.

Looked like a few exited where the rally would have normally exited...so I guess there was a rally or some sort.

BruinGM
05-06-2008, 04:20 PM
Saw two groups drive FAST by me and my buddies when we were going back to San Jose.

There were CHP's everywhere.

Looked like a few exited where the rally would have normally exited...so I guess there was a rally or some sort.

Yeah, I saw the CHP'ers everywhere too. I forgot to put my front license plate back on, but they didn't sweat me.

What time did you see people exiting the highway? I left the venue right after the raffle was over. But of course getting out took forever.

TeKNiC3
05-06-2008, 05:20 PM
/\ I was on the road around 4:30ish. Left the event around 3 and drove around SB and headed back out so I didn't get in the traffic leaving the fairgrounds.

BLitZeD310
05-14-2008, 03:41 PM
The E21 Legion does our own Rally unofficially and we always have a great time. We had about 40 cars in our rally and stopped in Solvang for a delicious BBQ. I must have seen literally 25 CHP's on bikes. My 323i (driven by another member) was pulled over to check the registration (we were waiting at a stop light):confused: And another was pulled over for taking pictures out the rear of a E30 cabrio. The CHP presence was intense and I almost felt intimidated, as a few times they were following us. We stuck to the speed limit 99% of the time though and they didn't really have anything on us.

They were all over our route but faded out towards Solvang.

Jon Shafer
05-14-2008, 08:30 PM
FWIW, the CHP presence has more to do with the wine-tasters than it does the Bimmer-festers (that's what their honcho told me anyway)...

BruinGM
05-15-2008, 11:51 AM
FWIW, the CHP presence has more to do with the wine-tasters than it does the Bimmer-festers (that's what their honcho told me anyway)...

Mmmmmm...not sure I believe them. I go wine tasting up there about 3X a year and the only time I've seen 'almost' that many CHPers was for the weekend of Fiesta Days last year.

I think it's just that they got tired of dealing with the few bad apples we've had the last few years...

I'm really looking forward to next year!

BLitZeD310
05-15-2008, 04:14 PM
FWIW, the CHP presence has more to do with the wine-tasters than it does the Bimmer-festers (that's what their honcho told me anyway)...

Lies!

One of the CHP's walking around at the fest is in the E21 Legion and he told us to watch out because the CHP knew full well about the rally's that take place. And for what it's worth he is an awesome guy, and I can assure you he was not ticketing anyone at the event.

Jon Shafer
05-15-2008, 05:32 PM
Lies!

One of the CHP's walking around at the fest is in the E21 Legion and he told us to watch out because the CHP knew full well about the rally's that take place. And for what it's worth he is an awesome guy, and I can assure you he was not ticketing anyone at the event.

You must be talking about CHPAhoy, a former Bimmerfest attendee...

:thumbup:


Regardless,

The good news was that the lieutenant basically said that if the rally was well organized, and the CHP was involved in the planning, that we could revive/restore the official rally.

BoostedE21
05-16-2008, 09:23 AM
You must be talking about CHPAhoy, a former Bimmerfest attendee...

:thumbup:


Regardless,

The good news was that the lieutenant basically said that if the rally was well organized, and the CHP was involved in the planning, that we could revive/restore the official rally.

Yeah CHPAhoy is a great guy and just so nice! Was great seeing him! :thumbup:

I think if CHP was involved, it would cut down on the stupidity, and recklessness of the drive. The "rally" is supposed to be a cruise, to just drive and enjoy the sight of hundreds of BMWs together.

Jon Shafer
05-16-2008, 10:10 AM
We'll be able to work on this more once we figure out where
Bimmerfest X will be held.