In need of an excellent shine

[Fifty_Cent]

I am currently using KLASSE AIONE and Sealant glaze. Both are producing excellent, long lasting results.

I am wondering, however, is there anything that is BETTER?:dunno:

[stream]

Depends on your definition of better. ;)

Synthetic sealants give better longevity.

I prefer natural carnauba wax (I use One Grand Blitz) because it has a more natural finish (more depth of shine & color), compared to synthetics which have more of an artificial/plasticy look.

[Johnz3mc]

Why not experiment a bit? Keep the Klasse AIO and SG going for the great durability and staying power. Add a topper of a quality carnauba - Natty's Blue or Souveran are mentioned a lot for darker cars.
Some guys (me included) have quite a collection of carnaubas to use as the top coat. The fact that the carnaubas don't last nearly as long as the sealants only makes it easier and quicker to experiment.
-John C.

[BrianSF]

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[stream]

Why not experiment a bit? Keep the Klasse AIO and SG going for the great durability and staying power. Add a topper of a quality carnauba - Natty's Blue or Souveran are mentioned a lot for darker cars.
Some guys (me included) have quite a collection of carnaubas to use as the top coat. The fact that the carnaubas don't last nearly as long as the sealants only makes it easier and quicker to experiment.
-John C.

I've read that a lot of people use synthetics, and then apply carnauba. Since you're one, my question is, why?

It seems the answer is to get the depth of color/shine that carnauba provides (compared to the artificial/plasticy look of synthetics). If so, why bother going through the time and effort of applying the synthetic in the first place? Why not just use carnuaba? In fact, my guess is carnauba would last longer applies to clean paint vs. over a synthetic.

[DetailDan]

Its all in the prep.

[Desiboy]

Its all in the prep.

Care to elaborate?

I'm planning on using Natty Blue on top of my Klasse AIO + SG combo. I'll let you know how it goes, but I'm expecting good results :)

[Johnz3mc]

I've read that a lot of people use synthetics, and then apply carnauba. Since you're one, my question is, why?

It seems the answer is to get the depth of color/shine that carnauba provides (compared to the artificial/plasticy look of synthetics). If so, why bother going through the time and effort of applying the synthetic in the first place? Why not just use carnuaba? In fact, my guess is carnauba would last longer applies to clean paint vs. over a synthetic.
You're right Stream.
The synthetics provide a ton of protection and shine. They actually bond to the clearcoat so they can last upward of 6 months, offering protection against uv, birds, waterspots and imparting a really good shine. Usually the shine is likened to a layer of saran wrap or plastic on the car.
Some like the pure shine of a sealant. Others prefer a deeper, wetter look and that's where the carnauba toppers come into play.
The carnaubas are natural products and don't really bond to anything, rather just 'float' on the surface. Carmaubas will melt (heat of summer), evaporate, and wash off much quicker than the sealants so long term protection and looks explains the two step lsp some people use.
Why go to the trouble of both? The coupe is a bit of a garage queen, a spring/summer/early fall fair weather driver so I spend the time to keep it looking sharp all the time. A bit of a hobby really.
Sluggo, my winter driver, never looks as good as the coupe. Sluggo gets Collinite 845 because of its toughness and lasting power.
-John C.

[DetailDan]

Care to elaborate?

I'm planning on using Natty Blue on top of my Klasse AIO + SG combo. I'll let you know how it goes, but I'm expecting good results :)

If you want a car to look how it should, then all imperfections need to be removed (not hidden with fillers) prior to applying your LSP (last step process- wax, synthetic wax, or sealant). Some people say its 90% prep, 10% LSP.

[phil@detailersdomain.com]

hey why not try polishing out the car and then using Klasse as a last step you will get much more in the paint prep as mentioned above.