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Dimagsoho
04-09-2008, 03:28 PM
If you had ENGINE MALFUNCTION, and or REPLACED FUEL PUMP, in your 335i BMW, 2006-2008, sign up here to start a possible Class Action Law Suit.

PhilipWOT
04-09-2008, 03:44 PM
:rofl:
good luck

bonsai
04-09-2008, 03:48 PM
:rofl:
good luck

Indeed.

But, what the heck. I've had reduced engine power, engine malfunction and other error lights on my 2007 335i. HPFP replaced at ~10K miles.

I'll cross my fingers for this Class Action to work out, but chances are that it won't


My 2000 323ci had a rear-subframe failure that BMW didn't cover (it was out of warranty for a few thousand miles) and the Class Action that people on E46Fanatics wanted to start never materialized. I would say a rear-subframe failure is more life-threatening than an HPFP failure, and not even that warranted a Class Action suit.

Orient330iNYC
04-09-2008, 04:05 PM
a class action lawsuit usually only makes the lawyers rich, and results in maybe a token to the class members.

what actual losses would you sue for?

a better route would be for a recall, complain to the DOT.

bonsai
04-09-2008, 04:10 PM
Isn't there a complaint form to file these types of issues with the DOT?

Jeff_335i
04-09-2008, 04:15 PM
a class action lawsuit usually only makes the lawyers rich, and results in maybe a token to the class members.

No kidding. The lawyers would make millions of dollars and the class members would get a coupon good for a free carwash with their next new BMW purchase provided it was purchased within 90 days of the award.

johnc_22
04-09-2008, 04:49 PM
Ummm . . .

On top of his unbelievable story #1 of waiting 8 hours for his car "without coolant" to be serviced and the door to be bent, and his #2 story of driving his car for a year with CEL's on acceleration, we get this?

I may be jumping the gun but . . .
http://www.zagura.ro/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/god-kills-kitten-troll.jpg

Snaxster
04-09-2008, 04:57 PM
:rofl: Awesome pattern recognition there, John.

Not that it's a sure indicator, but the appallingly bad spelling wasn't convincing either. :rolleyes:

fun2drive
04-09-2008, 06:10 PM
If you are really serious about filing a complaint then this is the office to start with:
www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov
However it is not like BMW is ignoring this as they act on this in a very timely manner so I think a class action suit is groundless.

If this has been a persistent problem then your state Lemon Law may apply however saving you any type of suit...

Michael Schott
04-09-2008, 06:18 PM
Ummm . . .

On top of his unbelievable story #1 of waiting 8 hours for his car "without coolant" to be serviced and the door to be bent, and his #2 story of driving his car for a year with CEL's on acceleration, we get this?

I may be jumping the gun but . . .
http://www.zagura.ro/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/god-kills-kitten-troll.jpg

Good call. Something smells rotten.

Thanks, Mike.

nathand
04-09-2008, 08:20 PM
If you had ENGINE MALFUNCTION, and or REPLACED FUEL PUMP, in your 335i BMW, 2006-2008, sign up here to start a possible Class Action Law Suit.

Thank you for making my future BMW purchases more expensive. At least you will make your lawyer some jingle.

:mad:

what is up with the flippin 'tards not finding proper dealers and let the car get fixed... It has a warranty for a reason...

ok rant over....

SonomaDriver
04-10-2008, 07:54 AM
Dimagsoho, get a clue dude. Do you know what the requirements are for class certification in court? Do you know the hurdles which must be cleared to get a suit like this off the ground?

BMW replaces the pumps promptly. AFAIK, BMW switched suppliers for the pump for the 08MY. I doubt the number is that high. That looks pretty responsive to me.

Would you care to define engine malfunction? What the heck does that represent? It's too generic a term for a class action law suit.

If you have issues with your BMW, whine less here and get into your local dealer and get the issue addressed.

Dimagsoho
04-10-2008, 08:23 AM
Dimagsoho, get a clue dude. Do you know what the requirements are for class certification in court? Do you know the hurdles which must be cleared to get a suit like this off the ground?

BMW replaces the pumps promptly. AFAIK, BMW switched suppliers for the pump for the 08MY. I doubt the number is that high. That looks pretty responsive to me.

Would you care to define engine malfunction? What the heck does that represent? It's too generic a term for a class action law suit.

If you have issues with your BMW, whine less here and get into your local dealer and get the issue addressed.
Apparently, every other 335 i has this Engine Malfunction/ HPFP problem... some 335i owners have to change the HPFP more than once....but all of them are back at the dealer over and over again with the same issue...Maybe BMW should stop producing even more engines with such flaw in engineering? AT what point do we kbnow the car is a lemon? Or we will continue to be blinded by cars superb handling and appealing design?

Dimagsoho
04-10-2008, 08:30 AM
:rofl: Awesome pattern recognition there, John.

Not that it's a sure indicator, but the appallingly bad spelling wasn't convincing either. :rolleyes:

Right...too many problems and issues with one car... Sorry for missspelling, English is not my native language. Who wants to own a car that has Engine malfunction pup up every time you try to accelerate? The car is a lemon, thats for sure, and service is the worst in Manhattan...there are many unhappy customers....

Dimagsoho
04-10-2008, 08:32 AM
Good call. Something smells rotten.

Thanks, Mike.

I doubt you own a BMW...but if you do it must be a used one?

thekurgan
04-10-2008, 08:37 AM
If you had ENGINE MALFUNCTION, and or REPLACED FUEL PUMP, in your 335i BMW, 2006-2008, sign up here to start a possible Class Action Law Suit.

You wouldn't be starting this lawsuit because your car got f?cked up at Manhattan BMW, would you? I noticed your other post, so many could think you're trolling since your early sign up to the board and these two heavy topics.

Dimagsoho
04-10-2008, 08:58 AM
You wouldn't be starting this lawsuit because your car got f?cked up at Manhattan BMW, would you? I noticed your other post, so many could think you're trolling since your early sign up to the board and these two heavy topics.

I don't realy care about the law suit, it just seems that every 335i turbo engine has the same problem that comes out sooner or later...and too many people have been unhappy over it...maybe BMW should be responsible for mass producing an engine with a major flaw? I'm personaly at my second attempt to fix the problem Engine Malfunction... The incident at BMW of Manhattan really happened, word for word, it sounds outrageous, but it's true... I just don't know why you defending the dealer? Car is a lemon, service sucks, what else there is more to say? Let's just hope this never happen to you, because it surely could.... My bad experience is not the first one and sure is not the last...

mrvuml
04-10-2008, 09:34 AM
So is anyone going to be dumb enough to "sign up" and provide their personal info on a public forum to someone (who has not identified themself) who is probably not qualified to initiate a class action lawsuit?

Dimagsoho
04-10-2008, 09:55 AM
So is anyone going to be dumb enough to "sign up" and provide their personal info on a public forum to someone (who has not identified themself) who is probably not qualified to initiate a class action lawsuit?

No one want to know any ones info, its not about that, but if there is enough people dealing with the same faulty product, there should be some recall or something like that. Would you want to drive a brand new car that potentialy could die on you because its been buid with a flaw? Thats how these law suits start, by collecting data, making people aware...No matter what the brand name is, but the product shouldn't be sold if it has a problem, and from what I see and hear, there still 335i's sold with defective HPFP...
Do you own 335i? 2006 or later?

Hot Dawg
04-10-2008, 10:18 AM
You put the ssssssssss into jackassssssssse.

mrvuml
04-10-2008, 10:19 AM
No one want to know any ones info, its not about that, but if there is enough people dealing with the same faulty product, there should be some recall or something like that. Would you want to drive a brand new car that potentialy could die on you because its been buid with a flaw? Thats how these law suits start, by collecting data, making people aware...No matter what the brand name is, but the product shouldn't be sold if it has a problem, and from what I see and hear, there still 335i's sold with defective HPFP...
Do you own 335i? 2006 or later?If you look at my "Mein Auto" you'll see I own a 08 E90 335i. 2,100 miles with no problems. Btw, problems with "some" 335s does not equate to "every" 335 having a problem. I'm not saying you shouldn't start a CAL but if you think its the right thing to do then find a CAL lawyer and start going through the process. Have you done any research yet about whats involved in starting a CAL?

Michael Schott
04-10-2008, 10:26 AM
I doubt you own a BMW...but if you do it must be a used one?

I'm sorry to call you out and I apologize if I'm wrong but please show us some proof of all these allegations like the horrible service call in NY and the bent hinges. Pictures of service quotes or the bent hinges would help prove you're legit. Your infantile responses don't help prove your case.

Thanks, Mike.

jwac
04-10-2008, 10:28 AM
I don't realy care about the law suit, it just seems that every 335i turbo engine has the same problem that comes out sooner or later...and too many people have been unhappy over it...maybe BMW should be responsible for mass producing an engine with a major flaw? I'm personaly at my second attempt to fix the problem Engine Malfunction... The incident at BMW of Manhattan really happened, word for word, it sounds outrageous, but it's true... I just don't know why you defending the dealer? Car is a lemon, service sucks, what else there is more to say? Let's just hope this never happen to you, because it surely could.... My bad experience is not the first one and sure is not the last...

Maybe you should do a little more research before you once again jump to broad-based conclusions on what little sample size you've apparently experienced.

Read this thread:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269694

You posted this in your other thread:

My 335i was cutom ordered from Germany, and it was perfect because Germans are not sloppy people...the car got ruined here in America, because Americans are very sloppy...this is true, and...it's a fact.

Is your car not perfect anymore? Why would you want to sue the manufacturer of perfect cars? It sounds like you should sue America because by your apparent logic, Americans are the ones responsible for ruining your fuel pump and engine. :dunno:

johnc_22
04-10-2008, 10:29 AM
Let's just hope this never happen to you, because it surely could....

I'm basing my reply on all 3 of your questionable posts in the past 24 hours:
1 - I would NEVER drive a car for a year that threw a CEL every time I accelerated. Only a fool would tolerate such a situation for more than a day or two on a $45K+ car.
2 - I would NEVER sit in a dealer waiting room for 8 hours waiting for my car to be repaired. I'm going to guess that in Manhattan there are options for getting one's self around the city WITHOUT A CAR (unless you're BJ in which case you call James your chauffeur to take you to the Four Seasons).
3 - You said it took this same dealer 5 (FIVE) tries to install tint on your windows. No one would return to such a dealer except YOU for some silly reason. You state all these detailed statistics about how many cars are serviced a week, how horrible their reputation is, and yet you take your car in there for service and expect something good to happen? The definition of insanity.

These things would rarely happen to anyone who has the ability to avoid being treated like a human doormat.

Finally, you state that ALL 335i's have experienced fuel pump failure. This is a ridiculous claim. If this were the case then I would have a new fuel pump but the fact is I'm driving my car with the same fuel pump it was built with in Germany, as are many, many 335i owners.

In closing, I seriously doubt you own a 335i, or that you showed up at BMW of Manhattan with no coolant, or basically anything you've posted so far.

Post pictures of your car, by the way.

redadair
04-10-2008, 11:25 AM
What engine issues? None here

Red

jtm964
04-10-2008, 12:10 PM
I'm basing my reply on all 3 of your questionable posts in the past 24 hours:
1 - I would NEVER drive a car for a year that threw a CEL every time I accelerated. Only a fool would tolerate such a situation for more than a day or two on a $45K+ car.
2 - I would NEVER sit in a dealer waiting room for 8 hours waiting for my car to be repaired. I'm going to guess that in Manhattan there are options for getting one's self around the city WITHOUT A CAR (unless you're BJ in which case you call James your chauffeur to take you to the Four Seasons).
3 - You said it took this same dealer 5 (FIVE) tries to install tint on your windows. No one would return to such a dealer except YOU for some silly reason. You state all these detailed statistics about how many cars are serviced a week, how horrible their reputation is, and yet you take your car in there for service and expect something good to happen? The definition of insanity.

These things would rarely happen to anyone who has the ability to avoid being treated like a human doormat.

Finally, you state that ALL 335i's have experienced fuel pump failure. This is a ridiculous claim. If this were the case then I would have a new fuel pump but the fact is I'm driving my car with the same fuel pump it was built with in Germany, as are many, many 335i owners.

In closing, I seriously doubt you own a 335i, or that you showed up at BMW of Manhattan with no coolant, or basically anything you've posted so far.

Post pictures of your car, by the way.


You stole my thunder !:thumbup:
Driving with CEL on for a year in a new car with 4yr/50000miles warranty?
Is this suppose to be serious or funny??

alany
04-10-2008, 12:11 PM
20,000+ kilometers and no issues other than a window regulator and side mirror motor.

Original fuel pump.

4BMWFamily
04-10-2008, 02:55 PM
My finance contract (NC) includes an arbitration agreement that specifically waives any right to joining a class action lawsuit, I'll bet most of yours do too.

jbeene
04-10-2008, 03:43 PM
20,000+ kilometers and no issues other than a window regulator and side mirror motor.

Original fuel pump.

Dude, looked at your sig. Get the F800GS!

UncleLar
04-10-2008, 03:52 PM
No engine problems in 10K miles on 07 335 coupe. Defective tail light bezel replaced quickly, cheerfully, and correctly by local BMW dealer. Apparently poster does not understand the personal responsibility to inspect vehicle themselves from time to time.

guyatherton
04-10-2008, 05:42 PM
Right...too many problems and issues with one car... Sorry for missspelling, English is not my native language. Who wants to own a car that has Engine malfunction pup up every time you try to accelerate? The car is a lemon, thats for sure, and service is the worst in Manhattan...there are many unhappy customers....

Might help if you were a native speaker - how come you have a BMW??

Emission
04-10-2008, 06:05 PM
Enough already.

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