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GSR13
05-12-2003, 01:06 PM
Stopped by United BMW in Roswell, Georgia today, just to see if they had a ZHP in stock. I had yet to see one in person and really wanted to see the Alcantara Interior. As I parked, I happened to see a nice set of 18" Rims through my mirror attached to a stunning Imola Red E46. Sure enough, one ZHP on the lot. Man, Imola really is an awesome color. Possibly the only color I would consider over JetBlack. It just looks great to me.

I asked a Sales Associate, who I am somewhat familiar with, if I could have a look. He was just on his way out for training so he found someone else to entertain me. They offered to let me drive the car and I simply could not refuse.

Getting in the car, I immediately saw it had the Leather Option, so I still have no idea what the Alcantara looks like in person. The Leather and BiXenon's were the only options, so the car stickered at $41,345.00. Oddly enough, the Leather seemed much softer than the Leather in my car. Not sure if they changed it or what, but it was softer.

Visual changes, compared to my 330i, were the Anthracite Headliner and the Black Cube Trim. I actually liked the trim, which surprised me, and I loved the headliner. Definately a nice look!

I started the car and the exhaust note was excellent. I know some have complained that it is to loud, but I loved it. I ran through the gears and the salesman commented that it was a shorter throw, but compared to my UUC SSK it was way to long. I depressed the clutch and it went entirely to far down, reminding me again just how much I love my Clutch Stop. The longer throw and lack of a Clutch Stop caused me a bit of trouble on the test drive.

Driving the car is what definately makes the Package worth it. I was, honestly, most interested in the suspension and not the 10 extra Horsepower. This seemed to confuse the salesman, as all he seemed interested in was the extra power. Do not get me wrong, the power was there, but I only took the car to 4000RPM's. The HP upgrade is certainly not the major selling point, at least in my opinion. What should be the major selling point, performance wise, is the suspension. I have no idea exactly what BMW changed, but that car feels so good. Even at low speeds, the car just feels so different to me. I really hope my UUC Sways add some of this feel to my car. The ride was not harsh but it was definately more firm than the Sport Suspension.

Like everyone has said before, the individual pieces that make up the ZHP are not overly impressive. But the sum of the parts goes together to make an excellent package that is certainly worth the $3,900.00.

One thing to note, with me anyway, are the wheel's. As much as I would despise paying for 18" Tires, those wheels are stunning, absolutely stunning.

If I were in the market right now, I would likely get the ZHP Package over the SP/PP that I have. But, given my current 330 I do not feel that I am missing anything. I definately love my SSK and Clutch Stop even more after driving the ZHP.

Dr. Phil
05-12-2003, 01:50 PM
The wheels and suspension did me in as well:)

Coming from a step, I did not have the same concerns on the throw and clutch but I could see a clutch stop install in my future as well. Maybe at Alexfest or Philfest :dunno:

mkh
05-12-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by GSR13
I have no idea exactly what BMW changed, but that car feels so good. Even at low speeds, the car just feels so different to me. I really hope my UUC Sways add some of this feel to my car. The ride was not harsh but it was definately more firm than the Sport Suspension.
Didn't we all owners say this from the beginning? Do we still need any ETK to prove that its suspension IS different from the 330i SP?

GSR13
05-12-2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by mkh
Didn't we all owners say this from the beginning? Do we still need any ETK to prove that its suspension IS different from the 330i SP?

And did I ever dispute that the suspension was changed? I believe I just posted how nice the suspension is and how it feels better than my car.

My point was, which you apparently missed, is that I wonder exactly what all was changed. Such as, stiffer springs and shocks, sways or possibly both.

Let me try to be more clear.

Obviously, BMW has changed the suspension for the better. It handles excellent and has much better feel, even at slower speeds. While I have no idea what exact components were changed, it is superior to my Sport Package Suspension and I sincerely hope that the addition of UUC Sways gives me some of that feel.

AF
05-12-2003, 07:02 PM
Nice write-up . . . just curious, do you have Conti's ?


My whole car changed as far as feel when I had REAL performance tires on it, the steering feel was much better, turn in was more responsive and the car just communicated so much better. I remember how well my 01 330Ci was with the Pilots . . . if you have the Conti's, changing your tires will make a BIG difference in the feel of your current 330i

GSR13
05-12-2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by AF330i
Nice write-up . . . just curious, do you have Conti's ?


My whole car changed as far as feel when I had REAL performance tires on it, the steering feel was much better, turn in was more responsive and the car just communicated so much better. I remember how well my 01 330Ci was with the Pilots . . . if you have the Conti's, changing your tires will make a BIG difference in the feel of your current 330i

I do have Contis and that could contribute to some of the difference in feel. But even in a straight line the car felt more rigid and definately introduced road imperfections into the cabin. Not that my car does not do this, but my car feels more isolated.

AF
05-12-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by GSR13
I do have Contis and that could contribute to some of the difference in feel. But even in a straight line the car felt more rigid and definately introduced road imperfections into the cabin. Not that my car does not do this, but my car feels more isolated.

When I had a set of 18" Hamann HM2's on my car with Nitto tires, my car felt like what you are describing.

I had a friend in the car who had an E36 M3 and he was loving the way my car felt with this set-up. The n first words out of his mouth were 'this reminds me of my M3

I am sure that the revised suspension is great but the size (18") and type of tires I would think had a lot to do with it. . .
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mkh
05-12-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by GSR13
And did I ever dispute that the suspension was changed? I believe I just posted how nice the suspension is and how it feels better than my car.

My point was, which you apparently missed, is that I wonder exactly what all was changed. Such as, stiffer springs and shocks, sways or possibly both.

Let me try to be more clear.

Obviously, BMW has changed the suspension for the better. It handles excellent and has much better feel, even at slower speeds. While I have no idea what exact components were changed, it is superior to my Sport Package Suspension and I sincerely hope that the addition of UUC Sways gives me some of that feel.
I'm sorry GSR13, actually the comment I addressed was not direct to you. I was just using your testimony to counter argue a thread that was posted by Mr. Paddle Shift saying that there is no suspension difference between the ZHP and the 330i SP. See below:

"So what about the "sport calibrated suspension? A closer look reveals that the suspension package is really, hrm, just sports package. Sway bars sizes are what the regular sport package was offered on E46s."

I assumed that most of our active board members have read that thread (my mistake), so I was using your comment to show them that there is NO WAY that both suspensions are the same. I am totally with you and 100% agreed of what you said.

ak330i
05-13-2003, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by GSR13
I have no idea exactly what BMW changed, but that car feels so good. Even at low speeds, the car just feels so different to me. I really hope my UUC Sways add some of this feel to my car. The ride was not harsh but it was definately more firm than the Sport Suspension.


BMW put the real M Sport Package suspension on ZHP instead of the butter SP suspension.

GSR13
05-13-2003, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by mkh
I'm sorry GSR13, actually the comment I addressed was not direct to you. I was just using your testimony to counter argue a thread that was posted by Mr. Paddle Shift saying that there is no suspension difference between the ZHP and the 330i SP. See below:

"So what about the "sport calibrated suspension? A closer look reveals that the suspension package is really, hrm, just sports package. Sway bars sizes are what the regular sport package was offered on E46s."

I assumed that most of our active board members have read that thread (my mistake), so I was using your comment to show them that there is NO WAY that both suspensions are the same. I am totally with you and 100% agreed of what you said.

Well then, you have my apologies as well. Sorry for the confusion. :thumbup:

As for the suspension, all it takes is a nice a drive in a ZHP to confirm it is different, for the better.

BradATL
05-13-2003, 06:54 AM
I saw that same Imola Red ZHP at United BMW in Roswell on my way home from a golf tournament on Monday afternoon. I stopped into the dealership to see if they had any ZHPs. From what I could tell, it was the only ZHP they had on the lot. I'm considering placing an order for one, and I'm attempting to get as many in-person looks at the car as possible before I choose exterior/interior colors. Plus, its just fun to look at 'em!

I noticed that particular car had Bridgestones on it. All the others I've seen have had Michelins or Contis.

mkh
05-13-2003, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by BradATL
I noticed that particular car had Bridgestones on it. All the others I've seen have had Michelins or Contis.
That is incorrect. Most of them have Bridgestone RE040 with a few lucky ones get Michelin Pilot Sport. None of the ZHP comes with Contis.