Spacers for the 6

[B1N]

Has anyone ever put in spacers for their 6?

I want to push the backwheels out more mainly for cosmetic reasons, but have a few questions

1) Can I only get spacers for the rear or do I have to get them for all 4 wheels?

2) How does spacers effect the ride/handling?

3) Do I have to do alignment after putting spacers in?

thanks

[GeneArch]

1. No
2. Not at all, make sure you get "hub centric"
3. No

[B1N]

thanks, Im going for the H&R Hubcentric ones!

cheers

[schulrog]

1. No
2. Not at all, make sure you get "hub centric"
3. No

+1 on all.

I have a set of H&R 12mm spacers sitting here I can give you pretty cheap from when i went from 12mm to 20mm. Let me know if you are interested.

[Lucardes]

"********: always there when the need is there" :thumbup: :)

[B1N]

Big props to ********, always helping me out. really appreciated bro!

Im thinking of buying some of those lights u recommended aswell to get ride of the amber, maybe you can give me a nice package deal together with the spacers? I prob wont do it for a couple of weeks though I spent way too much on the car this month lol. let me know k!

thanks guys

[schulrog]

aww haha i think i'm blushing. no problem guys, I love to help out where I can:) let me know when you're getting ready to do it and i'm sure we can work something out:) Also, I can walk you through the install for any bulb on the 6 as I have changed them all myself. Most of it is actually pretty easy if you have a couple minutes of time and know how to unscrew a bolt or 2:)

HAHA I totally know how that is. I've been through it all and at this point I "think" I am done with all mods for now. well.. lol perhaps a HID kit for the fogs:) but after that i'm done!

[GeneArch]

thanks, Im going for the H&R Hubcentric ones!

cheers

No problem...

Don't forget you'll need longer lug bolts as well :thumbup:

[schulrog]

easy way to figure out how long they have to be: take the stock bolt and measure from thread start to thread end then add the thickness of the spacer.

[GeneArch]

easy way to figure out how long they have to be: take the stock bolt and measure from thread start to thread end then add the thickness of the spacer.


Or.... you could simply order them with the spacers as a package and be done with it.

I'd recommend TurnerMotorsport.com :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

FWIW: The factory should be 32mm, with a 10mm spacer, you could/would use a 40mm bolt. For 15-20mm spacers use a 50mm bolt.

[schulrog]

oh GENE.. always going the most expensive way:tsk:

a 50mm bolt? that's way excessive! i run a 20mm spacer and have 45mm bolts. so for a 12mm spacer you'd get a 40mm bolt:)

[GeneArch]

They are all pretty much the same price. I personally would never go more than 3-4mm "short". To me, it is a safety issue.

"most expensive way" puhleese..... :loco:

I must be doing something right along the way.... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Stratus650]

20mm front, 10mm rear, no problems at all.

But make sure you get the right size to give you that wide agressive look without rubbing issues.

[schulrog]

They are all pretty much the same price. I personally would never go more than 3-4mm "short". To me, it is a safety issue.

"most expensive way" puhleese..... :loco:

I must be doing something right along the way.... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

safety issue? well if you would measure the stock bolts correctly, you'd notice that they are 23mm and not 32mm!!!!

so with 20mm spacers i'd be at 43mm total and a 45 mm bolt would give me 2mm extra. Could you please explain to me where the safety issue is? :dunno:

so for a 12mm spacer you need a 23+12mm bolt = 35mm

Do you even ever work on your own car or just take it in to get work done? technically you couldn't do anything right or wrong since you prob. never touch the thing except the steering wheel :)

[GeneArch]

"The factory should be 32mm"

If they are 23 as you say, then you would be fine. I was going be previous mentions of the size. I never measured them, I don't deal in such trivial items :fingers:

[schulrog]

20mm front, 10mm rear, no problems at all.

But make sure you get the right size to give you that wide agressive look without rubbing issues.

+1 what i would do is get the wheels. then measure the disctance from the outside of the tire to the outside of the fender. the front will be ok as long as the drop isn't too agressive and the rear might have to get rolled or trimmed. i just trimmed mine myself. there's a DIY about that floating around here somewhere. just measure in .5 of an inch and mark it. then grab a flex and cut into the metal and then around. finish it up with spraying some primer paint on a brush and brush out the cut lip about 3 times:)

[schulrog]

"The factory should be 32mm"

If they are 23 as you say, then you would be fine. I was going be previous mentions of the size. I never measured them, I don't deal in such trivial items :fingers:

They shouldn't be 32mm and they ARE 23mm. I have the stock bolt sitting right next to me :thumbup: haha trivial items until the wheels fall off :rofl:

[GeneArch]

I'll just go with my earlier recommendations... buy the spacers and bolts from the same place, at the same time. You'll have the right fitment, guaranteed.

[GeneArch]

Oh... one VERY important item for the OP...

Grab a tube of "anti-seize" compound an spread it liberally between the spacers and the hub. (and on the wheel side is recommended as well) The last thing you want to do when it comes time to take them of is to have them stuck. Yes, they could "fuse" to the hub and be a huge pain to remove.

[B1N]

Thanks for all the responses guys...

Shurlrog, Ill let you know when im ready k! Ill prob need the help on how to access the bulbs lol

Genearch. thanks for the help aswell! If i dont end up getting spacers off Shurlog ill definately be ording the bolts with them together to guarentee correct size.

As was planning on going more than 12mm tho?...is 12 mm too little to do to be worth it? I also heard that you shouldnt go past 15mm for safety reasons? Cant remember the reasoning behind that.

lastly, stratus 650, you said yours is 20mm front, 10mm rear. For me the fronts seem to be good enough and the rear is where the wheel is hidden in the wheel arch....doesnt your set up look akward unless u were going for that look?

[schulrog]

lol in the end with a little information you can do it yourself for less. of course, you have to be able to measure and add, which aparently can be more difficult then initially anticipated :angel:

Anyway, the bolts you'll need for 12mm spacers are going to be tapered 12x1.5 35mm :)

[schulrog]

Thanks for all the responses guys...

Shurlrog, Ill let you know when im ready k! Ill prob need the help on how to access the bulbs lol

Genearch. thanks for the help aswell! If i dont end up getting spacers off Shurlog ill definately be ording the bolts with them together to guarentee correct size.

As was planning on going more than 12mm tho?...is 12 mm too little to do to be worth it? I also heard that you shouldnt go past 15mm for safety reasons? Cant remember the reasoning behind that.

lastly, stratus 650, you said yours is 20mm front, 10mm rear. For me the fronts seem to be good enough and the rear is where the wheel is hidden in the wheel arch....doesnt your set up look akward unless u were going for that look?

NP:) Just let me know which bulbs you want to get to. some you can access from under the hood and some you have to access through inside of the fender:)

about the spacers. you can't really tell until you get the wheels on there. you can do a little by calculating the offsets, which is what i did. then i went from 12mm spacers to 20's lol just get the wheels on first and then see how far you want them to come out is your safest bet.

you can really run any spacer you want as long as the components are high quality like eibach or H&R

[B1N]

thanks man!

how easy is install? how long did it take you?

[schulrog]

for the spacers? it's as easy as taking off the wheel, putting on the spacer and putting the wheel back on:) get a torque wrench set it to 90lbs and tighten. after about 50 miles re-tighten to 90lbs just to make sure none of the bolts loosened. i hate letting others touch my wheels and bolts bc they generally use high impact wrenches and just tighten the hell out of the bolts. it's pretty easy to strip them so just do it yourself properly.

[Stratus650]

Thanks for all the responses guys...

lastly, stratus 650, you said yours is 20mm front, 10mm rear. For me the fronts seem to be good enough and the rear is where the wheel is hidden in the wheel arch....doesnt your set up look akward unless u were going for that look?

it sounds akward coz I'm having front wheels with +23 offset, so usually you need 10mm to get it back similar to stock i.e. +13.
in addition, the coilovers needed an extra 10mm to avoid rubbing, this makes it 20mm :D

Rear is normal with +28 wheel offset plus 10mm makes +18 i.e. similar to stock again

[nv6425]

Is it really true that spacers don't effect handling? I would imagine that it's one more "flex" point in the suspension therefore providing less stability, but I could be wrong.

[schulrog]

yup you're wrong:) There is no flex point. All you are doing is extending the pivot arm of the suspension. with those small modification, it doensn't make any difference at all. Now if you have a low rider and space out oh i dunno 100-****m like some of them do then you might look at some issues with the axle breaking. lol

[928GONE]

I have a 2005 654 vert w/ stock sport wheels, No coilovers, not lowered.

What spacer sizes would you recommend for a currently stock set up ( 19" sport wheels)

If i lower the car in the furture will this interfer w/ the spacers

Thanks in advance.

[Phatisfy]

I have a 2005 654 vert w/ stock sport wheels, No coilovers, not lowered.

What spacer sizes would you recommend for a currently stock set up ( 19" sport wheels)

If i lower the car in the furture will this interfer w/ the spacers

Thanks in advance.
15mm spacers would be good.

[928GONE]

When i searched this topic i found two recomendations:

1. 20mm Front and 10 mm Rear.
2. 12mm Front and 20mm Rear.

It appears that the stock rear wheels/tires are further from the inside of the fender than the front wheels and therefore would require a larger spacer in the rear as shown in #2 above.

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