new f10

[lild]

i see that there is a new f10 section. when will it be comming out. and does it look as sexy as the e39?:bigpimp:

[dannyc9997]

It looks MUCH better than the e60 but Id rather have the e39.....

http://paultan.org/archives/2006/06/03/bmw-f10-5-series/

[lild]

i think bmw is loseing touch on the euro look. i don't like it.

[SHWELL]

It is prob the pics, but that thing looks fat... As in porky..... But mysteriously in a good way..... Iwould drive that thing... Looks very elegant... jmho...

[SoCaLE39]

It looks MUCH better than the e60 but Id rather have the e39.....

http://paultan.org/archives/2006/06/03/bmw-f10-5-series/


I really dont see how this is MUCH better than the E60. The lines are very similar and the only thing that is significantly different is the tail lights. The front fascia resembles the E60 as well as the side profile. Not too much change from what I can see:dunno:

[dannyc9997]

I really dont see how this is MUCH better than the E60. The lines are very similar and the only thing that is significantly different is the tail lights. The front fascia resembles the E60 as well as the side profile. Not too much change from what I can see:dunno:

I dont know i just hate the e60, its just nice to see its different, your probably right.

[PJB.]

I really dont see how this is MUCH better than the E60. The lines are very similar and the only thing that is significantly different is the tail lights. The front fascia resembles the E60 as well as the side profile. Not too much change from what I can see:dunno:

Agreed. Still looks like the e60, thought it looks like they toned it down and took a step back toward the conservative side.

Also looks like they're taking the Celis tails away again, only to possibly reintroduce them during the mid-cycle model refresh like they did with the e60.

[lild]

it sorta looks like a 3 series on steriods, to me.

[jsayreshepherd]

Less ugly than the e60 by a long shot, but still a bit chunky and not as good looking as the e39. I think some decent rims would go a long way (they certainly have on the e60's I've seen).

Now if we could just get a 535d touring with a manual....

[Michael Star]

Did they steal the rear tail lights from Hyundai?

http://indimoto.com/blog/media/blogs/IndiBlog/hyundai_sonata_embera.jpg

http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/06/bmw_f10_preview_2.jpg

Or Honda?
http://www.gallagher.com/honda_accord_2004/2004_honda_accord_rear_side.jpg

[kishg]

looks like an overfed e60!

[xenoid]

Looks much better than the E60. Also related, the new 3 series sedan looks more like the coupe and therefore looks much better than the old 3 series sedan.

[lild]

Looks much better than the E60. Also related, the new 3 series sedan looks more like the coupe and therefore looks much better than the old 3 series sedan.really, see becuase to me the 3 series look like a mini me e39:thumbup:

[Mack]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/E60_1.jpg

http://namotorsports.net/images/RI53611.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/vorsteiner_E60_vented_hood_1169922020.JPG

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back.jpg

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back2.jpg

[payam972]

the e60 has definitely grown on me... especially the e60 M5

[AirWreck]

Agreed. Still looks like the e60, thought it looks like they toned it down and took a step back toward the conservative side.



Exactly. They are toning down the styling. I think the jump from the E39 to the E60 was too radical, and probably a lot of potential buyers agree, so it's a step back.

Think about it - some of us in here might have otherwise traded our E39s in for the new model by now. I mean, our newest E39s are 5 years old, but we're hanging on to 'em.

[SHWELL]

Did they steal the rear tail lights from Hyundai?

http://indimoto.com/blog/media/blogs/IndiBlog/hyundai_sonata_embera.jpg

http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/06/bmw_f10_preview_2.jpg

Or Honda?
http://www.gallagher.com/honda_accord_2004/2004_honda_accord_rear_side.jpg

I was thinking the same thing... My wife has aSonataand the tails look identicle... Maybe they are cutting cost.... jk...

[lild]

I was thinking the same thing... My wife has aSonataand the tails look identicle... Maybe they are cutting cost.... jk...there was a group buy from ebay.:D

[Eric Devier]

Did they steal the rear tail lights from Hyundai?

http://indimoto.com/blog/media/blogs/IndiBlog/hyundai_sonata_embera.jpg

http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/06/bmw_f10_preview_2.jpg

Or Honda?
http://www.gallagher.com/honda_accord_2004/2004_honda_accord_rear_side.jpg

THANK YOU! the FIRST thing i thought of when i saw the rear of the new 5'er..i thought of the hyundai sonata rear tail lights. UGH. not a good look for bmw. and for the person who said they're losing their 'euroness'...i agree. they're starting to look like fing hyundais for christs sake! :mad:

[Eric Devier]

the e60 has definitely grown on me... especially the e60 M5

the only 5'ers ive automatically liked..and have consistently liked are the e28s, e39s (ftw!), and e60s. i havent had a click with the others. maybe the new one will grow on me..just like the new 7'er? but thats a whole different ball park.

[biglovemp]

Maybe you could compare it to the hyndia but def no the honda. Just because the lights are red on top and white in the bottom dont make them look alike...
I used to not like the E60, but it grew on me BIG time and now i love it. I was really close on buying one also. :D but the deal fell through...

I think what makes that new 5 look a little different is the fact that it has lights on the trunk. E39s and E60s only have them on the outside body part. :dunno:

[Philboski]

the e60 has definitely grown on me... especially the e60 M5


Me too -- a few days ago, I parked my car going to work, and there was a black 550i sitting nearby, and with the rims it had, it just looked......right, somehow. I like the interior too, even if it's really hard for me to get into.

[SoCaLE39]

I'm with you Mack. I think the E60 has great styling however like some stated, it might have been to much of a chance for some people.

[TriBeCa760i]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/vorsteiner_E60_vented_hood_1169922020.JPG


Hello sweet lover! She looks pretty sexy all dressed up ;-) . I'd definitely say the E60's grown on me to the point of salivation over the past two or so years. I get nothing but boo's and hisses on the 7 boards for deciding to trade in my 760i for a new 550i.

I can't wait to see what the new 5 looks like with an aero kit.

[lsfeder]

Those tail lights... UCHHHHH
UGLY FUGLY

[rtanov]

The Hyundai tail lights were the first thing that came on my mind too. But how accurate are those F10 shots? I've seen some which look significantly different on the web. Most of them say "impressions" so all might be quite off the real thing. The spy shots I saw (e.g. here http://www.funferteambenelux.be/index.php?page=50) don't seem to definitely suggest any if the "impressions"; on the contrary - some look very different to me. So, maybe it's still early to tell.

About the E60 - what bugs me most is how the lower tail lights edge follows the roof line when looking from the side - it gives me the impression that the trunk lid with the tail lights are disconnected from the car. Another thing I don't like is single exhausts (although I have one on my rear; my car that is). I like them symmetric or hidden altogether. Maybe they did it on purpose so regular 5-er drivers will get miserable every time they see the back end of an M5.

[WeThePepleOf540]

Maybe the tail lights will look better in person. Seems like every car bmw is manufacturing is taking some growing into........

[Gh0sT]

No doubt I will love the E30s E39s E36s

I mean when I looked at the E60s for the first time, I wasn't too happy with the overall look of it. After time however I slowly started to fall for them (maybe it was just the 2007-2008 LED led upgrade they did to the rear tails?) But now looking at the brand spanking new F10, GAH. NO. I like the 1-series over this unusually bad looking jap rear ended car...

[synenergy52]

Come on guys. These pics are photoshopped up the @$$. You can't tell me that you actually believe these are real? Get real now :thumbdwn:

[2k528i]

I've yet to see a BMW i didn't like.... I think that f10 is sharp. It's like saying Cindy Crawford is not that good looking.. WHAT???

[H-Zilla]

The rear end looks very cheap and Japanese. For some reason my first thought ran to Toyota Avalon -- but Sonata works too. I do like the styling of the front end in that pic.

But, as others have pointed out, these pics are not necessarily representative of the final design. I actually saw a different mock-up with the rear-end and tail-lights inspired by the 3 series coupe and it looked stunning.....so hopefully they will go in a different direction from these pics.

The E60 has grown on me -- but unlike the E39 (which I believe looks good in just about all trim packages) the E60 needs to be all dolled-up for me to get excited about it (aero package -- 18'' + wheels).

[Mack]

The E60 has grown on me -- but unlike the E39 (which I believe looks good in just about all trim packages) the E60 needs to be all dolled-up for me to get excited about it (aero package -- 18'' + wheels).

I pretty much agree with ya on that Zilla.

[AirWreck]

Maybe this was just an intentionally leaked photo...part of a study group thing... like when they run a new movie for a test audience. There could be some BMW employee reading all this right now, taking notes.

In that case:

"HEY, Fritz, this car it looks like ****z!! Better whip up a new batch of modeling clay!"

[Vadim540i]

I don't really like it :thumbdwn: tail lights exact copy of GS....... what happened to BMW I don't know :(

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/vadimsbc/2008lexusgs46020236389-E.jpghttp://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/vadimsbc/bmw_f10_preview_2.jpg

[Vadim540i]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/E60_1.jpg

http://namotorsports.net/images/RI53611.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/vorsteiner_E60_vented_hood_1169922020.JPG

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back.jpg

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back2.jpg

Virtually any car looks good when properly modded.

[Kzang]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:



Every E39 driver that want a E60 but can't afford to buy a new E60 doesn't like them.
Then pretty soon the E60 drivers will hate on the F10 cars and so on.
Its an excuse.

[Mack]

Every E39 driver that want a E60 but can't afford to buy a new E60 doesn't like them.
Then pretty soon the E60 drivers will hate on the F10 cars and so on.
Its an excuse.

LOL now that may be the most accurate excuse I've heard yet. To be 100% honest I do like the E39 a little better. But yeah the E60 550 and/or M5's DO look sweet with just a few mods. I truly believe though that the E39 specifically the M5 and 2003 540 M-Sport will go down in history as some of the sweetest sport sedans of all time.

[Vadim540i]

Every E39 driver that want a E60 but can't afford to buy a new E60 doesn't like them.
Then pretty soon the E60 drivers will hate on the F10 cars and so on.
Its an excuse.

Not true at all.

[Mack]

Yes it is. Read it again.

[X550-ED]

Are you guys serious? Those are OLD pics of a Photochopped M5.

Can we get some real pics?

[Vadim540i]

Yes it is. Read it again.

So I did, I can afford new E60 but not going to buy it now because don't really like it.

[53 TURK]

to me the tail lights look like the hyundai sonata's, and they look ugly

[Richie13]

It's odd that they have scratched the 528 and just called it a 525. I guess it's a cleaner number on the badge / increments of 50?

I'm loving the biturbo option though - these things should be fun to drive "535i/xi, 3.0 liters biturbo, 306 ps; 540i, 4.8 liters, V8, 367 ps; 550i/xi, 4.4 liters V8 biturbo"

[momo's_se\/en]

it sorta looks like a 3 series on steriods, to me.

+1, I hate the new 3er 4dr no matter what Moded or not its super ugly and this F10 as well

Maybe this was just an intentionally leaked photo...part of a study group thing... like when they run a new movie for a test audience. There could be some BMW employee reading all this right now, taking notes.

In that case:

"HEY, Fritz, this car it looks like ****z!! Better whip up a new batch of modeling clay!"

Please do cuz this one here looks like a$$.

I had an E39 and i loved every moment of it and i never liked the E60, and i had a good deal on a E66 so i went for it unfortunetly nothing feels or drives like a 7er and i had to lemon it and i went for the E60 535i which is amazing in driving, handling and performance i just missed the Li feeling.

[Fragzem]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/E60_1.jpg

http://namotorsports.net/images/RI53611.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/vorsteiner_E60_vented_hood_1169922020.JPG

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back.jpg

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back2.jpg


ME!!

those are fugly.

[gliu2008]

I didn't see that much difference than the E60s except for the taillights. I would prefer the taillights on the current E60s, with the white bar on top. If they put the white bar on the bottom, they would make it too common.

There got to be something else to encourage people to pay the extra for the F10s, not only a newer model.

[SmokedE46]

F10 is FUGLY no doube... and i must say even me too the e60 s have grown on me. just some nice tints and 18" wheels make them enjoyable. the e60 550 or m5 however is gorgeous out of the factory. BUT Ill stay true to our beloved e39. i have to say that when i parked next to a 545i in a parking lot the other day... ( both black and tinted) my car simply looked more like BMW

[Bremen Ben]

The front fascia is actually quite....ugly. The two vertical lines coming down from the hood between the headlights and the grill sorta cut the front into three visually distinctive pieces. The currently smooth and clean look of the front bumper is ruined. Reminds me of the current Audi A4 or A6, with their grotesque "big mouth" fascia.

Oh and I agree with the Hyundai taillight too....:wailing:

[jmsod]

i see that there is a new f10 section. when will it be comming out. and does it look as sexy as the e39?:bigpimp:

The e39 is definately a nice design and it still looks really pretty good, but you have to admit that the e39 is really starting to show it's age. The e39 M5 no longer turns my head. A nice car, but out with the old and in with the new.

[kishg]

Not true at all.

there maybe some truth to it but not always. when i went car shopping it was specifically for a 2003 M-Sport 540 6spd. there were e60s in the same ballpark at the dealer. CPO, 2005 530s with autotragics.

[Mack]

The front fascia is actually quite....ugly. The two vertical lines coming down from the hood between the headlights and the grill sorta cut the front into three visually distinctive pieces. The currently smooth and clean look of the front bumper is ruined. Reminds me of the current Audi A4 or A6, with their grotesque "big mouth" fascia.

Oh and I agree with the Hyundai taillight too....:wailing:

Whose seen pics of F10 front fascia? I haven't.

[Bremen Ben]

Whose seen pics of F10 front fascia? I haven't.

The link in Post #2 by DannyC.

[Mack]

Ahh ok I clicked the top link above that one. Hmm looks very 3'ish to me.

[pistolpuma]

I like it. I think it is an improvement over the E60. You guys that see Hyundai or Honda in the design need to get your bifocals tweeked.

[Bimmer^hue]

Eh i hate it. BMw is deff losing its euro look. looks like a honda

[Mack]

Ok, I just took a closer look at that article. These pics aren't even real and worse yet the article is dated June 3rd 2006! Here is a more recent one with "impressions" (Feb 2007) on how they think the F10 will look. So for now, we really have NO idea to base any judgement here. Granted, it probably will never be as sweet to us as our dear E39's but I just don't see BMW going down w/out making a damn good attempt at recapturing the 4DSC heritage market. Notice the tail-light differences too. But again, these are simply impressions and guesstimates.

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/02/05/2010-bmw-5-series-f10-artists-impression/

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2385-5/new5artistimpression1.jpg

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2386-5/new5artistimpression2.jpg

[TriBeCa760i]

Ok, I just took a closer look at that article. These pics aren't even real and worse yet the article is dated June 3rd 2006! Here is a more recent one with "impressions" (Feb 2007) on how they think the F10 will look. So for now, we really have NO idea to base any judgement here. Granted, it probably will never be as sweet to us as our dear E39's but I just don't see BMW going down w/out making a damn good attempt at recapturing the 4DSC heritage market. Notice the tail-light differences too. But again, these are simply impressions and guesstimates.

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/02/05/2010-bmw-5-series-f10-artists-impression/

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2385-5/new5artistimpression1.jpg

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2386-5/new5artistimpression2.jpg

It looks like a stretched '09 3 series... I hope that's not what it looks like. I'm hoping the front end keeps a somewhat powerful look. The lights and grill should be bigger than in that pic methinks.

[blindboy79]

hey guys
I did a focus group two days ago comparing the E60 to the New F10 (which was present) and also the E class and Lexus GS. All I have to say is that the new 5series is a complete disappointment. It resembles a 3series in exterior size and interior size as well. The interior dash looks like it was built in a honda factory. Only good thing that I saw was the new dual exhaust.

[jsayreshepherd]

hey guys
I did a focus group two days ago comparing the E60 to the New F10 (which was present) and also the E class and Lexus GS. All I have to say is that the new 5series is a complete disappointment. It resembles a 3series in exterior size and interior size as well. The interior dash looks like it was built in a honda factory. Only good thing that I saw was the new dual exhaust.

My guess..... troll.

[TMQ]

hey guys
I did a focus group two days ago comparing the E60 to the New F10 (which was present) and also the E class and Lexus GS. All I have to say is that the new 5series is a complete disappointment. It resembles a 3series in exterior size and interior size as well. The interior dash looks like it was built in a honda factory. Only good thing that I saw was the new dual exhaust.

the source for this info is questionable. please substantiate your claims.

It's only 2008. The new 5 is for MY2011, which means you'll see it introduced in 2010.

[Landshark 328]

check out these links:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini7/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini6/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

This is what they say the new 5 will be
are they right?


And if they are then this is a huge improvement over the sloppy e60. But if these photos are accurate they stole the lexus blueprints, changed a couple things and said "we gotta car" lol

I like it. best looking 5 yet

[chivas]

got enough buttons on that steering wheel?

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139902&d=1206463824

[RichReg]

hey guys
I did a focus group two days ago comparing the E60 to the New F10 (which was present) and also the E class and Lexus GS. All I have to say is that the new 5series is a complete disappointment. It resembles a 3series in exterior size and interior size as well. The interior dash looks like it was built in a honda factory. Only good thing that I saw was the new dual exhaust.

Hmmmm....
there WERE focus groups at least 18 months prior to the release of the E60, and my father did just attend a focus group for the new 7 Series in March of last year. So I don't doubt that you could have attended one.

But are you saying the F10 is smaller than the E60?
How can that be if all the talk is about an increase in wheelbase, width, etc? :dunno:

[Mysticblue325i]

hey guys
I did a focus group two days ago comparing the E60 to the New F10 (which was present) and also the E class and Lexus GS. All I have to say is that the new 5series is a complete disappointment. It resembles a 3series in exterior size and interior size as well. The interior dash looks like it was built in a honda factory. Only good thing that I saw was the new dual exhaust.
But didn't you also say in another post you thought the MB S class was the best looking sedan on the market? Since I certainly do not agree with your opinion concerning that, perhaps the same will hold true with the F10. With BMW consistently increasing the size of new models, I highly doubt they would significantly reduce the size of the new 5-series. What was the name of the marketing company running the focus group?

[porksoda]

hah well i for one am anxiously waiting for the F10 as i almost picked up an e60 535i msport lsi .

I remember when e60s were coming out i did not like e60 at all.. now after being with the e39 for so many years i just salivate at the 550s or m5s everytime i see them...

This time i think anyone who is about to pick up a 5er should wait for the f10.

Oddly enough my dealer told me they will be in soon and i said well i will be back then.

From the pics i will agree it looks too japenese... but isnt this what vw did too... their jettas look like corollas and now the fake 5er looks like a lexus gs?!?!.

I don't like the other images either but knowing the history of my likeness of cars it will probably grow on me... i still cant wait to see some "real" pics of the car.

[bmrboy2008]

Ok, I just took a closer look at that article. These pics aren't even real and worse yet the article is dated June 3rd 2006! Here is a more recent one with "impressions" (Feb 2007) on how they think the F10 will look. So for now, we really have NO idea to base any judgement here. Granted, it probably will never be as sweet to us as our dear E39's but I just don't see BMW going down w/out making a damn good attempt at recapturing the 4DSC heritage market. Notice the tail-light differences too. But again, these are simply impressions and guesstimates.

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/02/05/2010-bmw-5-series-f10-artists-impression/

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2385-5/new5artistimpression1.jpg

http://paultan.org/gallery/d/2386-5/new5artistimpression2.jpg

It looks like a cross between a MB and a BMW. Looks terrible. I'll never buy one if they look like this. :(

[Mack]

check out these links:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini7/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini6/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

This is what they say the new 5 will be
are they right?


And if they are then this is a huge improvement over the sloppy e60. But if these photos are accurate they stole the lexus blueprints, changed a couple things and said "we gotta car" lol

I like it. best looking 5 yet

Now THAT is f0cking SEXY!!!! :thumbup:

[blindboy79]

unfortunately i dont really have anything to substantiate my claims since they metal detect you before seeing the vehicles which prevents anyone from carrying any cameras or recording devices. The focus group company is adept focus group in beverly hills. Everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions but the interior size of the car was substantially smaller than that of my current E60.

[hotrod2448]

That "impression" looks like they took a 3 coupe added a set of doors, some different headlights and M5 wheels. I'm hoping for something a little better than that.

Do we know when the F10 is projected to appear? It's got to be at least a 2011 model year or later right? That article in the 2nd post says 09 but, we know that's obviously not the case.

[RichReg]

unfortunately i dont really have anything to substantiate my claims since they metal detect you before seeing the vehicles which prevents anyone from carrying any cameras or recording devices. The focus group company is adept focus group in beverly hills. Everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions but the interior size of the car was substantially smaller than that of my current E60.

blindboy...tell us more.
Are you perhaps referring to lack of space only in the front?
Every media article has been stating that there will be an increase
in space in the rear of the car. :dunno:

[TriBeCa760i]

check out these links:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini7/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080827.002/mini6/next-generation-bmw-5-series-spy-video

This is what they say the new 5 will be
are they right?


And if they are then this is a huge improvement over the sloppy e60. But if these photos are accurate they stole the lexus blueprints, changed a couple things and said "we gotta car" lol

I like it. best looking 5 yet

Now THAT is f0cking SEXY!!!! :thumbup:

It's hot from the back. The front looks too wimpy... That is, however, the same thing I said before I saw more extensive photos of the new 7. If the 5 looks like a smaller 09 7 Series I'd be quite satisfied. It's really growing on me!

[z06bigbird]

If the new F10 comes with Hyundai or Kia tail lights, does that make it (F10) a world class car??? LOL!

[firehire]

Every E39 driver that want a E60 but can't afford to buy a new E60 doesn't like them.
Then pretty soon the E60 drivers will hate on the F10 cars and so on.
Its an excuse.

So wrong! :thumbdwn: I have both and love both of them for different reasons. :p It's not an affordability thing. :bigpimp:

[bmrboy2008]

I still think it sucks!!! I guess I'll have to upgrade to a 7 series the next time around.

[Tufast]

LOL now that may be the most accurate excuse I've heard yet. To be 100% honest I do like the E39 a little better. But yeah the E60 550 and/or M5's DO look sweet with just a few mods. I truly believe though that the E39 specifically the M5 and 2003 540 M-Sport will go down in history as some of the sweetest sport sedans of all time.

Ditto x2, 01' through 03' E39s do have one of the most artistic, classy designs I've seen on any sedan to date, esp the the M5 & 03' 540iMspt, the only cars I would trade mine for. These cars remind me of a DaVinci or Michael Angelo painting, simply exquiste in art & taste. They retain that original BMW design w/regards to headlamps etc & I believe when aged, 20yrs or more will still look great unlike the newer model bimmers.

[frhsfootball80]

it looks like a bigger piggy version of the 3 series, i dont like it


voted ghey

[Mack]

I can think of a lot of words for this car but ghey isn't one of them.

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/8/27/9080827.002/9080827.002.Mini6L.jpg

http://img.worldcarfans.com/US/2008/8/27/9080827.002/9080827.002.Mini7L.jpg

[adjmcloon]

That's hot. Looks like they took the rear of the current 6'er and popped it on the f10. I like it.

[TriBeCa760i]

I can think of a lot of words for this car but ghey isn't one of them.

I think that's one of the best @$$ shots I've ever seen. If it looked like that from behind I'd love it.

[Vadim540i]

got enough buttons on that steering wheel?

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=139902&d=1206463824

Nice shot Chivas! Where did you get it?

[Seeley]

the new F-10 looks like a 135 on STEROIDS just look at the rear end!!

[synenergy52]

Mark my words: The F10 will have a big following. Go look at the old forum posts when the E60 was spied/coming out... everyone called it garbage, saying it looked like trash. Then you get the "it's growing on me" threads then you get the "Just ordered..." threads haha. I think its obvious if you look at history. I don't think stunning designs are well welcomed at first. We'll see I guess!

[falou]

Love the shot from the rear, I imagine the tailights will be tweaked from those, but the lines look sweet. If it's slightly smaller that would be good with me, the larger it gets, the heavier it gets and handling suffers.

[jzcrna]

Does anyone know when exactly this will be out? Will it be at the end of 2009 or earlier?

[Mack]

Whoever said they didn't like the current gen E60 suck on soma this sickness!

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9549/dsc00141copypf0.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3182/dsc00231sy1.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8558/dsc0030qh7.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7199/dsc0042jq5.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2609/dsc004456tonemappedti2.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/259/dsc0072kf8.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4792/dsc0079jw5.jpg

More pictures HERE. (http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/107348-pictures-g-power-hurricane-bi-compressor-asa-730-hp-now-updates-pics.html)

[mbr129]

That's still hideous. Sorry. Especially the interior. The back of the E60 wagon is not bad.

I wish I could stand the current E60. I'd love to have the 535xiT MT as the family wagon. But I simply cannot get past it. Here's hoping the F11 looks half decent (however it winds up looking). I'd get one right away.

[Mack]

What car are you referring to that's hideous?

[porksoda]

That's still hideous. Sorry. Especially the interior. The back of the E60 wagon is not bad.


Sorry would have to disagre... the e60 is one hot momma... dealerships here are giving huge breaks on it amidst the financial cloudiness and bmw is also suffering (after layoffs) and are offering huge savings to clear the inventory thats sitting at various ports...

[bmvguyE39]

Perhaps the next 5 will look a little more like the brand new 7 as opposed to the 3 or any non-bangle generated design. Obviously there are those that like the current 5s but I have chosen to keep my e39 pending the next 5 series debut when hopefully BMW will produce a 5 more to my liking. While I have driven plenty of e60s as service loaners, I find them as well as many of the newer models to be cheaper in material and design quality, especially with the interior leather. Though currently disappointed with some of BMWs offerings I am hopeful a satisfactory replacement for the 5 series will be offered by the time I get tired of my e39 as it is my 4th BMW but still going strong.

[GST528I]

I think BMW is getting away from their CLASSIC look that set them apart from all the other LUXURY CARS.

[wagonman]

anyone have any guesses, educated or not as to when the F10 will be introduced? my own guess is spring 2010 as an '11 model year. so, that is a year from this spring. but, i am really just guessing. also, regarding styling: new styles always take time to get used to. the e60 looked weird at first and did turn off many die-hard bimmer enthusiasts. styling is very important to bmw customers. they will work ahrd to get it right. i bet from spy-photos and speculative talk on these boards and other places there will be significant differences from what we end up seeing on the road and in showrooms.
as an aside, the x6 is appears to be a complete failure to me. an 85k, 4 seater. the actual application of that vehicle is a mystery to me. i would rather have a range rover sport.

[pdxgrease]

I think the X6 made sense when it was designed. The market was pumped full of funny money and everyone was busy flossing. Now we really dont need it. We need the 123d.

[RichReg]

anyone have any guesses, educated or not as to when the F10 will be introduced?

It's due out in Europe for sale in early 2010.
We'll probably get official pics sometime in late '09, as it will likely be previewed over there at that time.
I would guess that the U.S. will receive it a few months later, as is usually the case. :)

[MikeMidd]

It took three years for the current 5 Series to grow on me. Maybe this will be the same. It looks... dull. The tail is ugly/boring, and it looks like the current Accord all over to me. There's nothing sexy and appealing about it.

But, it's just a sketch. We'll see...

[bmrboy2008]

The front end is cool, but the tail sucks,

[Mack]

I love how you guys are giving opinions on something that has yet to be seen. Why not wait until it's unveiled before giving opinions? :dunno:

[hotrod2448]

I love how you guys are giving opinions on something that has yet to be seen. Why not wait until it's unveiled before giving opinions? :dunno:

I can think of a lot of words for this car but ghey isn't one of them.


Is this not an opinion? It's just conversation, which is mainly what car forums are for. I think most of us know it will not end up looking exactly if at all the way it does in the renderings but, it's all we have so far so we might as well voice our like and dislikes. Especially since I've recently learned first hand that BMWNA pays attention to what goes on on these forums.

[Mack]

I doubt the decision makers are BMWNA give a rats ass what we are talking about in here. Not that BMWNA has any say so whatsoever on the design of up and coming models mind you as I assume all design decisions are made in Germany. But sure if the need is there to give opinions on prototype designs that don't exist then by all means. I just don't see the point personally. I just wish they would hurry up and come out so I can get a good deal on E60's when the prices start to fall a bit more. MMmmm..

[hotrod2448]

I doubt the decision makers are BMWNA give a rats ass what we are talking about in here. Not that BMWNA has any say so whatsoever on the design of up and coming models mind you as I assume all design decisions are made in Germany. But sure if the need is there to give opinions on prototype designs that don't exist then by all means. I just don't see the point personally. I just wish they would hurry up and come out so I can get a good deal on E60's when the prices start to fall a bit more. MMmmm..

You are still here talking right? So obviously you feel it's not totally pointless.

I'm not saying they care what we think at all but, I do know that there are people from BMWNA that keep records of things discussed on forums and more than that (since I agree in this case it mostly likely doesn't matter at all) if we were limited to discussion of fact and technical details the forum would be a much less visited and more boring site.

If people want to discuss likes and dislikes of something a rendition of a future car whether it's from BMW or a 4 year old what does it matter?

[DaShoker]

Did they steal the rear tail lights from Hyundai?



http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/06/bmw_f10_preview_2.jpg



Damn! This is not F10, it pure photoshop, look here (http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/104432-article-video-weekend-bmw-m5-e60-2005-a.html) the exact same picture!


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll251/vadimsbc/2-800.jpg

[Mack]

Wow, not only is that a great find but that post is AWESOME! I love all the E60 M5 pics and travels. Very nice.

[DaShoker]

Wow, not only is that a great find but that post is AWESOME! I love all the E60 M5 pics and travels. Very nice.

Did you see wheels, shadows on the right rear wheel and on the body... everything is exact the same, it's just photoshopped image. Did you guys find how real F10 will look like?

[Mack]

Yes we know that none of the pics posted so far are "actual" pics of the F10, hence my annoyance with comments from peeps saying, that sucks, or it's ugly. Well it's not REAL anyways. I've been scouring google images quite a bit and have seen nothing but prototyped pics with false fronts and sides. Kinda anxious to see what it'll finally look like but I know it's coming soon so guess we'll see.

[RichReg]

I hope it looks like this:

Source : AutoZeitung.de
http://www.autozeitung.de/aktuelles-heft/auto-zeitung-heft-022009

[hotrod2448]

I do like the concept in the link. I'm still not sure I'm sold on that marker light/vent/character thing that runs between the fender and door that is on the new 7er as well. I think it looks really weird having something in the middle of that cut line.

[doru]

Who doesn't like E60's again? :dunno:

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/E60_1.jpg

http://namotorsports.net/images/RI53611.jpg

http://www.modbargains.com/zoom_img/vorsteiner_E60_vented_hood_1169922020.JPG

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back.jpg

http://www.lumma-design.com/ENGLISH/Resources/clr5m_back2.jpg

Ooouugh!!!!
Jelly beans anyone?

[Alchem]

http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=235380&stc=1&d=1233284187http://www.m3post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=235381&stc=1&d=1233284202

[cbj]

Looks really good. Saw the new 7 live the other day and it looked really good too. The design has more lightness and sportiness to it.

[badini]

I'm hoping my '98 540 6-speed keeps running until this F10 comes out. I've got 105K and refused to buy the current E60 model because the E39 looks so much better. But my car is starting to give me problems and I can't wait to buy a twin turbo 4.4L V8 AWD F10!

[oghowie]

Not bad but I'm not feeling the Lexus rear end that's on the new 7 and that mockup looks similar.