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rost12
06-22-2003, 07:30 PM
"AMG is dropping supercharged engines in favour of big-bore V8s"

Scans from CAR magazine, 07/03 edition.

1st page:
http://homepage.mac.com/rost12/1stpage.jpg

2nd page:
http://homepage.mac.com/rost12/2ndpage.jpg
Kaz
06-22-2003, 07:59 PM
Interesting... But geeze those motors are going to be HUGE. A 5.5l V8 in a C-class?? Too bad its specific output (<70bhp/L) is rather poor.
rost12
06-23-2003, 03:41 AM
My thoughts exactly. C55 is going to be one nose-heavy car :yikes: I guess rumors of V8 M3 and existing V8 S4 leave MB with no other choice :dunno:
LMC
06-23-2003, 05:55 AM
How many gears is enough?

7-speed?

Do I hear 8?
alee
06-23-2003, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by LMC
Do I hear 8?
18 speed? (http://www.roadranger.com/products/trans/trans_auto_18sp.htm) :dunno:
LmtdSlip
06-23-2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by LMC
How many gears is enough?

7-speed?

Do I hear 8?

Just one...CVT

Course you may have trouble making it work with 367 HP.
RKT BMR
06-23-2003, 08:52 AM
:eek: Looks like I'm gonna have to get a smaller pulley for my blower :eeps:
JPinTO
06-23-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by LmtdSlip
Just one...CVT


Exactly.
Jeff_DML
06-23-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Kaz
Interesting... But geeze those motors are going to be HUGE. A 5.5l V8 in a C-class?? Too bad its specific output (<70bhp/L) is rather poor.

exactly, even Audi is getting 360hp out of 4.2l V8 for the new S4.

Better be a boatload of torque with that displacement:)
pdz
06-23-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Jeff_DML
exactly, even Audi is getting 360hp out of 4.2l V8 for the new S4.

Better be a boatload of torque with that displacement:)

if they had more lightweight componentry, they could get a lot more bang out of their v8s.
JST
06-23-2003, 05:38 PM
Big V8: :thumbup: (though, in truth, even the biggest of these engines is a small block by American standards)

Lack of a manual transmission: :thumbdwn:

No stick, no sale.
nate
06-23-2003, 06:31 PM
I saw that a few weeks ago, very cool :thumbup:
andy_thomas
06-27-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Jeff_DML
exactly, even Audi is getting 360hp out of 4.2l V8 for the new S4.

Better be a boatload of torque with that displacement:)

344 bhp (DIN) in Germany, to be exact, one more than the M3's 343 bhp (DIN) - which was completely deliberate. Really.

The car isn't any quicker in a straight line or around a bone fide track than an E36 M3 (the 321 bhp version), mainly because of its enormous kerb weight. It is, though, very good at putting power down - the tables would probably be turned in the wet. If you hadn't already fallen asleep at the Audi's wheel.
hythe
06-29-2003, 02:12 AM
Originally posted by rost12
My thoughts exactly. C55 is going to be one nose-heavy car :yikes: I guess rumors of V8 M3 and existing V8 S4 leave MB with no other choice :dunno:

Small car / V8 doesn't necessarily have to mean nose-heavy handling - my B8 weighs only about 1550kg and the only real understeer seems to be caused by the ASC...

Funny thing about the S4 is that it doesn't seem to have much outright torque - nothing close to the Alpina engine with its 347lb/ft.
rost12
06-29-2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by hythe
Small car / V8 doesn't necessarily have to mean nose-heavy handling - my B8 weighs only about 1550kg and the only real understeer seems to be caused by the ASC...

Funny thing about the S4 is that it doesn't seem to have much outright torque - nothing close to the Alpina engine with its 347lb/ft.

What can I say, BMW/Alpina do things that few others can :D