Ticket for dark tints?

[madunix]

Ok, hopefully somebody here can gimme some advice on wether to fight this or not. I was driving on the northern state parkway here in long island new york doing about 70-75 mph. i wasn't really speeding on purpose, just going with the flow of traffic. Then i see this cop car parked off to the side so i tap on my brakes a lil and i think i passed him doing something around 65-70 and he pulls me over saying i was speeding. i Gave him my military ID and my drivers liscense and he comes back with a ticket saying my tints were too dark. Now maybe he was being nice and letting me go easy, But why a stupid tint ticket? and i wasn't even driving reckless... he didn't do a tint check, didn't tell me how fast i was going, didn't say nothing. He said instead of giving you a speeding ticket i'm going to give you a dark tint ticket so there's no points. Anyone got any advice?


P.S. i do believe my tints are illegal but i've had this car for a lil over a yr and never been given a problem before, even while driving in queens or what not where the cops are nazi's about everything.

[dboy11]

If you can prove that your tint is legal then I would go fight it in court...get the doc's that are required so that you are armed with the proper material and you should be able to win.

[wdgiles]

Sounds like the NY law is 70% light transmittance, but without a light meter reading at the time the ticket was issued to prove it, I'd say fight it.
Quoted from this site: http://www.tintdude.com/ntoo.html

NEW YORK

Chapter 775, Title III, Article 9, Section 375, Subdivision 12-16

12. It shall be unlawful to operate on any public highway or street in
this state any motor vehicle registered in New York state unless such
vehicle be equipped with safety glass wherever glass is used in doors,
windows and windshields. For the purposes of this subdivision, any
device other than a trailer, which is attached to or carried upon a
motor vehicle and which lawfully can be occupied while the motor vehicle
is in motion, shall be considered a part of such motor vehicle.
12-a. (a) Every motor vehicle, except a motorcycle, when driven or
operated upon a public highway, road or street shall be equipped with a
front windshield in a fixed and more or less upright position
constructed of safety glass as defined in subdivision fourteen of this
section and required by subdivisions eleven and twelve hereof. No person
shall drive any motor vehicle with any sign or other nontransparent
material other than a certificate or paper required to be displayed by
law upon the front windshield or the sidewings or side windows on either
side forward of or adjacent to the operator's seat.
(b) No person shall operate any motor vehicle upon any public highway,
road or street:
(1) the front windshield of which is composed of, covered by or
treated with any material which has a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent unless such materials are limited to the uppermost six
inches of the windshield; or
(2) the sidewings or side windows of which on either side forward of
or adjacent to the operator's seat are composed of, covered by or
treated with any material which has a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent; or
(3) if it is classified as a station wagon, sedan, hardtop, coupe,
hatchback or convertible and any rear side window has a light
transmittance of less than seventy percent; or
(4) the rear window of which is composed of, covered by or treated
with any material which has a light transmittance of less than seventy
percent. A rear window may have a light transmittance of less than
seventy percent if the vehicle is equipped with side mirrors on both
sides of the vehicle so adjusted that the driver thereof shall have a
clear and full view of the road and condition of traffic behind such
vehicle.
(c) Any person required for medical reasons to be shielded from the
direct rays of the sun and/or any person operating a motor vehicle
belonging to such person or in which such person is an habitual
passenger shall be exempt from the provisions of subparagraphs one and
two of paragraph (b) of this subdivision provided the commissioner has
granted an exemption and notice of such exemption is affixed to the
vehicle as directed by the commissioner. The applicant for such
exemption must provide a physician's statement with the reason for the
exemption, the name of the individual with a medically necessary
condition operating or transported in the vehicle, the specific
condition involved, and the minimum level of light transmission
required. The commissioner shall only authorize exemptions where the
medical condition certified by the physician is contained on a list of
medical conditions prepared by the commissioner of health pursuant to
subdivision sixteen of section two hundred six of the public health law.
If such such exemption is granted, the commissioner shall make a record
thereof and shall distribute a sufficiently noticeable sticker to the
applicant to be attached to any window so shielded or altered pursuant
to such exemption.
(d) The commissioner may test any window for a person who has been
charged with violating this subdivision. If such window is found to be
in conformity with this subdivision, a small label attesting to the
conformity shall be affixed to the window tested.
(e) On and after January first, nineteen hundred ninety-two, no person
shall manufacture, sell, offer for sale, equip or operate a motor
vehicle in this state in violation of the provisions of this
subdivision, except that a person may operate a nineteen hundred
ninety-one or earlier model year vehicle without violating this
subdivision if the windows on said vehicle were in conformity with this
subdivision as it existed on December thirty-first, nineteen hundred
ninety-one.
(f) The commissioner shall make such rules and regulations as he shall
deem necessary to carry out the provisions of this subdivision.
13. It shall be unlawful for any person, firm or corporation to
replace glass in doors, windows, or windshields of motor vehicles unless
such replacement be made with safety glass.
14. The term "safety glass" as used in this section shall be construed
to mean any product composed of glass, so manufactured, fabricated or
treated as substantially to prevent shattering and flying of the glass
when struck or broken, or such other or similar product as may be
approved by the commissioner.
15. The commissioner of motor vehicles shall maintain a list of types
of glass approved by him as conforming to the specifications and
requirements for safety glass as set forth in this section, and shall
not issue a license for or relicense any motor vehicle subject to the
provisions of subdivisions eleven and twelve unless such motor vehicle
be equipped as therein provided with such approved type of glass.
16. The owner and operator of any motor vehicle operated in violation
of the provisions of subdivisions eleven and twelve shall be guilty of a
traffic infraction. In case of the violation of such subdivisions by any
common carrier or person operating under a permit issued by the public
service commission (or other authorized body or person), said permit
shall be revoked, or, in the discretion of the commissioner, suspended
until the provisions of such subdivisions are satisfactorily complied
with.

[rbenjami]

Id say thank you to the cop and pay the ticket. he did you a favor. dont be an idiot.

[srobmw]

id say thank you to the cop and pay the ticket. He did you a favor. Dont be an idiot.

+1

[dboy11]

Id say thank you to the cop and pay the ticket. he did you a favor. dont be an idiot.

+1

But dosen't he have to pay the fine and change the tint?....I thought that was the point of the ticket

[Orient330iNYC]

But dosen't he have to pay the fine and change the tint?....I thought that was the point of the ticket

nyc tint tickets are not fixit.

pretty much any tint is illegal
70% vtl is pretty much clear

[Orient330iNYC]

Id say thank you to the cop and pay the ticket. he did you a favor. dont be an idiot.

+2

i got pulled over for speeding and got two tint tickets instead. be thankful, he wrote you for a no points equipment violation instead of 15-20 over the limit. he did you a favor, just pay the fine and go on with life.

[e39m5pilot]

In most states it is illegal to tint anything from the drivers shoulder forward on the side (at all), you must have 2 outside rearview mirrors to tint the back window and cannot tint beond 6" from the top of your windsheild. I hope this helps!

[stack]

i dont even think tints are legal in NYC...even that smoked plate car is illegal...:bawling:

[dboy11]

nyc tint tickets are not fixit.

pretty much any tint is illegal
70% vtl is pretty much clear

What a crock!

They issue you a ticket for tint which is illegal but then its really only a fine....they allow you to keep it so you can get another fine?

what a cash cow:confused:

[dandanio]

+1

+3 Absolutely, it is easier to fight illegal tint in court than illegal speeding. I usually get away and charges are dropped. Without proof, you can't be fined and courts in CT usually drop cases like that (I passed a cop on 84 and he wrote me a ticket for driving 65+, which without proof, has been immediately dropped. Same thing with following too close - I left work and was in bumper to bumper traffic when the cop showed up from the on-ramp, everyone slowed down, I was the last one in the group, I got pulled over. Dropped again - no proof.) Another time - speeding, got clocked at 86, wrote 84 on the ticket (I-91) and fought it down from $300 to $75 and from speeding to improper speed (something like that). No record, no insurance increase. My advice: fight if you can or want to, you might get lucky, but thank the cop for not writing you the speeding ticket. It really is a b..ch in court to fight.

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[madunix]

thank the cop? i wasn't even really speeding... i was rolling WITH traffic, not changing lanes passing cars, i had cars in front of me and behind me. and considering the fact that i've served 4 yrs in the marines he gives me a ticket for tints? even if the reason he pulled me over was speeding, it's still bs... i've been let go from DUI's and speeding over 100+ in ny before, i'm sad to mention those but i have grown and don't do those things anymore, but staying on the subject, i was rolling with traffic like i said before, only reason he prob really puled me over because of the high profile car. its a 02 M3. idk, do i have to show proof showing my car tints are legal? or can i just go in and say thy're not illegal since theres no proof on their end sayikng they are. cause the cop neever did the light meter thing.

[dboy11]

thank the cop? i wasn't even really speeding... i was rolling WITH traffic, not changing lanes passing cars, i had cars in front of me and behind me. and considering the fact that i've served 4 yrs in the marines he gives me a ticket for tints? even if the reason he pulled me over was speeding, it's still bs... i've been let go from DUI's and speeding over 100+ in ny before, i'm sad to mention those but i have grown and don't do those things anymore, but staying on the subject, i was rolling with traffic like i said before, only reason he prob really puled me over because of the high profile car. its a 02 M3. idk, do i have to show proof showing my car tints are legal? or can i just go in and say thy're not illegal since theres no proof on their end sayikng they are. cause the cop neever did the light meter thing.

I would walk into court with all the doc's that are needed to prove your case. Not knowing NY tint laws..sounds like its illegal no matter what they are:confused:

Also the fact that you've served in the military is no reason to be let go of any traffic infraction, and I wouldn't pull that card out of your wallet to often in those type of situations...Thanks for servicing none the less...I did as well many moons ago

[Orient330iNYC]

I would walk into court with all the doc's that are needed to prove your case. Not knowing NY tint laws..sounds like its illegal no matter what they are:confused:

Also the fact that you've served in the military is no reason to be let go of any traffic infraction, and I wouldn't pull that card out of your wallet to often in those type of situations...Thanks for servicing none the less...I did as well many moons ago

70% VLT. which is clear. all the cop has to say is that he could not clearly see the driver. he doesnt need to light meter it.

[Orient330iNYC]

thank the cop? i wasn't even really speeding... i was rolling WITH traffic, not changing lanes passing cars, i had cars in front of me and behind me. and considering the fact that i've served 4 yrs in the marines he gives me a ticket for tints? even if the reason he pulled me over was speeding, it's still bs... i've been let go from DUI's and speeding over 100+ in ny before, i'm sad to mention those but i have grown and don't do those things anymore, but staying on the subject, i was rolling with traffic like i said before, only reason he prob really puled me over because of the high profile car. its a 02 M3. idk, do i have to show proof showing my car tints are legal? or can i just go in and say thy're not illegal since theres no proof on their end sayikng they are. cause the cop neever did the light meter thing.

good luck then, present those arguments.

there is no law saying that speed of traffic legalizes going over the speed limit.

really, grow up.

you broke two laws (and freely admitted to them here) that he could have cited you for, he cited you for the one that wont result in any repercussions in terms of insurance or your license, and now you're whining about how it isnt fair because you did 4 years in the marines?

just because you were given a pass for DUI (which i think you should have been arrested for, it speaks of your immaturity and sense of entitlement to do whatever you want, never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph, again, endangering others), well guess what, you finally have to pay a fine.

i hope you contest it and get nailed the next time you get pulled over in nassau county.

[dboy11]

70% VLT. which is clear. all the cop has to say is that he could not clearly see the driver. he doesnt need to light meter it.

What makes no sense to me about this NY law and tint.. its not legal not matter what...yet if someone gets it on their car...they only get fined..I guess its up to the digression of the cop as to give the ticket / fine or not.

Seems silly to me

[Orient330iNYC]

What makes no sense to me about this NY law and tint.. its not legal not matter what...yet if someone gets it on their car...they only get fined..I guess its up to the digression of the cop as to give the ticket / fine or not.

Seems silly to me

typically, they'll write a tint or obstructed view if they want to give you a break. one of my EMT friends got pulled over for speeding, they wrote him a ticket for obstructed view (air freshener hanging from his rearview)

its completely up to the officer's discretion, and if they want to cut you a break.

but yeah, they dont force you to strip the tint, its not even part of the NYS inspection like it is in NJ

[edgar620]

Semi-off topic

Which states have fix it tickets? The majority just fine you correct?

[madunix]

good luck then, present those arguments.

there is no law saying that speed of traffic legalizes going over the speed limit.

really, grow up.

you broke two laws (and freely admitted to them here) that he could have cited you for, he cited you for the one that wont result in any repercussions in terms of insurance or your license, and now you're whining about how it isnt fair because you did 4 years in the marines?

just because you were given a pass for DUI (which i think you should have been arrested for, it speaks of your immaturity and sense of entitlement to do whatever you want, never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph, again, endangering others), well guess what, you finally have to pay a fine.

i hope you contest it and get nailed the next time you get pulled over in nassau county.

Who are you to tell me to grow up? Try reading what i said, "i'm sad to mention those but i have grown and don't do those things anymore" and also about the speeding "never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph" yeah well look up threads on this forum of peoples top speeds, you're basically reffering to more than half the guys n girls on this site. I'd also like to mention that if i ever did try a max speed it was on open highway with no vehicles around. So don't even try to patronize me telling me i deserve to get nailed. I came on here for advise and advise i've gotten, I don't need somebody to try to insult me, Says alot about you talking like that online when this is only a board of discussions. I wouldn't say i'm the one that needs to grow up...

P.s. The fact that i've served in the Marines 4 yrs, I don't take advantage of that, I rarely ever mention it to anyone, My drivers licsense is from NC with my military address on it and the cop is the one to always ask if i have my military ID on me. So again, Don't try to speak of something when you lack certain information. Either answer the question asked or just leave the thread alone.

[Orient330iNYC]

Who are you to tell me to grow up? Try reading what i said, "i'm sad to mention those but i have grown and don't do those things anymore" and also about the speeding "never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph" yeah well look up threads on this forum of peoples top speeds, you're basically reffering to more than half the guys n girls on this site. I'd also like to mention that if i ever did try a max speed it was on open highway with no vehicles around. So don't even try to patronize me telling me i deserve to get nailed. I came on here for advise and advise i've gotten, I don't need somebody to try to insult me, Says alot about you talking like that online when this is only a board of discussions. I wouldn't say i'm the one that needs to grow up...

P.s. The fact that i've served in the Marines 4 yrs, I don't take advantage of that, I rarely ever mention it to anyone, My drivers licsense is from NC with my military address on it and the cop is the one to always ask if i have my military ID on me. So again, Don't try to speak of something when you lack certain information. Either answer the question asked or just leave the thread alone.

you didn't like my first answer where i told you the cop cut you a break by writing you for a no points ticket. its just a fine, you admit you broke the law and already got a break for it. he would have been justified to write you for a 15 over violation, which would have cost you far more than a tint ticket. what's the fine for that? 130? 15 over will cost you 10X as much in insurance surcharges.


and considering the fact that i've served 4 yrs in the marines he gives me a ticket for tints?



it's still bs... i've been let go from DUI's and speeding over 100+ in ny before


both of your statements seem to express a disbelief you got a ticket.
in the first statement, you seem to be shocked that he had the gall to give you a ticket even though you served for four years. despite your statements to the contrary in your follow up post.

I have friends that are life long military, they present their military IDs on the rare occasions they have been pulled over, sometimes they get a pass, sometimes they don't. they don't go and complain about how its bs they got a ticket. might be the difference between mature commissioned officers and someone that expects to get breaks.

just because you got a slap on the wrist before, its bs because you actually got a ticket for breaking the law?
pay to play. effectively any tint on the front windows is illegal in NYS.

[1985mb]

Whoever let you off for a DUI should be fired. Seriously. IF ever there was a driving-related offence that had absolutely no excuse, that would be it.

[MikeCNY]

I'm curious to know how much the fine is for the tinted windows, in NY. You've reminded us that the 02 M3 is a high priced car (and that's why you say you were stopped), why are you too cheap then to pay the ticket that comes with no points? Here's what you don't understand about "staying with the flow of traffic." The cop can't stop ten cars at once, especially on a road like the L.I.E., Northern State Pkwy,95, etc. But he will stop the guy that draws even more attention to himself (tints, M3, rims, etc.). Your M3 does just that. It's a nice car that people are drawn to. Cops also are not issued light meters to gauge tint in the is area.
Your military ID does not entitle you to a break, even though the cop gave you one on this occassion. Military does not equal police, period. You want a break from a ticket, but you don't want to extend the same courtesy to the cop by not having the tint. Tint is a safety issue for cops.

[madunix]

I'm curious to know how much the fine is for the tinted windows, in NY. You've reminded us that the 02 M3 is a high priced car (and that's why you say you were stopped), why are you too cheap then to pay the ticket that comes with no points? Here's what you don't understand about "staying with the flow of traffic." The cop can't stop ten cars at once, especially on a road like the L.I.E., Northern State Pkwy,95, etc. But he will stop the guy that draws even more attention to himself (tints, M3, rims, etc.). Your M3 does just that. It's a nice car that people are drawn to. Cops also are not issued light meters to gauge tint in the is area.
Your military ID does not entitle you to a break, even though the cop gave you one on this occassion. Military does not equal police, period. You want a break from a ticket, but you don't want to extend the same courtesy to the cop by not having the tint. Tint is a safety issue for cops.

well put, i agree. i got pulled over last night again or well this morning at like 5am by the same exact cop different area, no ticket this time he just said have a nice day. so ill take what i've gotten cause you brought up a good point about the tints, it is a safety issue. i can relate.

[madunix]

Whoever let you off for a DUI should be fired. Seriously. IF ever there was a driving-related offence that had absolutely no excuse, that would be it.

well sure i can see your point of view on why he should be fired, but when i say DUI i'm not talking about me being trashed and driving, i've never done that before, i have actually sat in my car and turned on my car and sat there, but never driven. when i refer to me getting out of a dui it was after a whole night of straight drinking... going to sleep and waking up in the morning and me smelling like a bar. i wasn't drunk or wasted, but the fact that i smelt like it gave him an enough reason to question me or what not. because if you think about, if i was given a breathalizer, i prob would of blew above the limit even though i had a full nights rest and felt absolutely nothing...

[MikeCNY]

well put, i agree. i got pulled over last night again or well this morning at like 5am by the same exact cop different area, no ticket this time he just said have a nice day. so ill take what i've gotten cause you brought up a good point about the tints, it is a safety issue. i can relate.

Cool. Just so you know, there are many cops that think giving you a "bs" ticket for tint, view obstruction or seatbelt instead of speeding, are doing you a favor. The cop knows the speeding ticket wacks your insurance and in turn, your wallet.
By the way, how much is that ticket? Just curious.

[mgokool]

Cool. Just so you know, there are many cops that think giving you a "bs" ticket for tint, view obstruction or seatbelt instead of speeding, are doing you a favor. The cop knows the speeding ticket wacks your insurance and in turn, your wallet.
By the way, how much is that ticket? Just curious.


I agree...be thankful thats all you got...70-75mph over the posted speed limit is a hefty fine, plus points, plus higher insurance costs'...not to mention you'd probably have to make a court appearance depending on your actual speed.

Your "bs" ticket is only an "equipment violation" here in ny and you only have to pay the fine...20mins out of your time at dmv...waiting on line....and what was it, last time I remembered it was a $50 fine and $15 surcharge for that ticket....

YEAH, I'D SAY HE DID YOU A HUGE FAVOR....YOU SHOULD BE GREATFUL...

further more, you've served in the armed forces....thats great and honorable, but still doesnt give you the right to break the law and expect to get away completely free...

[madunix]

Cool. Just so you know, there are many cops that think giving you a "bs" ticket for tint, view obstruction or seatbelt instead of speeding, are doing you a favor. The cop knows the speeding ticket wacks your insurance and in turn, your wallet.
By the way, how much is that ticket? Just curious.

i havn't checked how much it is just yet, it wasn't written on the ticket, i have to send it in and then they'll let me know how much it is, i have to plea guilty first before i know how much it is. =/

[Orient330iNYC]

i havn't checked how much it is just yet, it wasn't written on the ticket, i have to send it in and then they'll let me know how much it is, i have to plea guilty first before i know how much it is. =/

you should be able to just call in.
last time i got a tint ticket it was 65 per window, 50+15 surcharge.

[shadygrey]

I don't think the same cop that has pulled you over twice will go easy on you if you make him come to court to fight a tint ticket when he let you go on the speeding ticket. Just pay the fine and be happy you slid past the points on your license!

Cops like this benefit us all in saving our pocket!

[stilurkingabout]

I don't think the same cop that has pulled you over twice will go easy on you if you make him come to court to fight a tint ticket when he let you go on the speeding ticket. Just pay the fine and be happy you slid past the points on your license!

Cops like this benefit us all in saving our pocket!

Unless he goes to court on his day off = overtime. :D

I'm late to his party but let me offer a few thoughts. Different traffic courts have different rules regarding fixing tint. I know for a fact at least one in Nassau will give you 30 days to remove it. You show it to the police, have them fill out the equipment correction form then present it to the court. Case dismissed.

A meter is not required to write the summons in NY. Someone fresh from an academy might have a problem but any experienced officer could rely on training and experience to have probably cause that the tint was in violation. A car window with factory tint reads about 84%, give or take. Knowing the limit is 70%, it is not that difficult to judge. As for obtaining a conviction, that is a different matter.

Any equipment violation is the perfect compromise when you have someone stopped for something more serious and you don't feel like hammering them.

[madunix]

cool beans, i tried going online to pay it last night... apparently you can't pay tickets online for suffolk/nassau? couldn't find it.

[rbenjamin]

good luck then, present those arguments.

There is no law saying that speed of traffic legalizes going over the speed limit.

Really, grow up.

You broke two laws (and freely admitted to them here) that he could have cited you for, he cited you for the one that wont result in any repercussions in terms of insurance or your license, and now you're whining about how it isnt fair because you did 4 years in the marines?

Just because you were given a pass for dui (which i think you should have been arrested for, it speaks of your immaturity and sense of entitlement to do whatever you want, never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph, again, endangering others), well guess what, you finally have to pay a fine.

I hope you contest it and get nailed the next time you get pulled over in nassau county.

+1

[Mehale]

good luck then, present those arguments.

there is no law saying that speed of traffic legalizes going over the speed limit.

really, grow up.

you broke two laws (and freely admitted to them here) that he could have cited you for, he cited you for the one that wont result in any repercussions in terms of insurance or your license, and now you're whining about how it isnt fair because you did 4 years in the marines?

just because you were given a pass for DUI (which i think you should have been arrested for, it speaks of your immaturity and sense of entitlement to do whatever you want, never mind endangering others, and speeding on a public road at 100mph, again, endangering others), well guess what, you finally have to pay a fine.

i hope you contest it and get nailed the next time you get pulled over in nassau county.

I usually don't throw in my opinion in threads this in-depth but sorry..

+1

[ProRail]

Ok, hopefully somebody here can gimme some advice on wether to fight this or not. I was driving on the northern state parkway here in long island new york doing about 70-75 mph. i wasn't really speeding on purpose, just going with the flow of traffic. Then i see this cop car parked off to the side so i tap on my brakes a lil and i think i passed him doing something around 65-70 and he pulls me over saying i was speeding. i Gave him my military ID and my drivers liscense and he comes back with a ticket saying my tints were too dark. Now maybe he was being nice and letting me go easy, But why a stupid tint ticket? and i wasn't even driving reckless... he didn't do a tint check, didn't tell me how fast i was going, didn't say nothing. He said instead of giving you a speeding ticket i'm going to give you a dark tint ticket so there's no points. Anyone got any advice?


P.S. i do believe my tints are illegal but i've had this car for a lil over a yr and never been given a problem before, even while driving in queens or what not where the cops are nazi's about everything.

Can't tell you what to do, but my basic rule is to fight it if conviction or admission of guillt would affect my insurance or my ability to have a license. Any reasonable fine is insignificant in comparison.

[kemosobe77]

In NY you can have tint(regardless of how dark it is) on the rear doors and rear window. You can not have any type of tint in the front door windows and windshield. Pay the ticket. Its an equipment failure summons, no points on your license. Or, you could remove the tint from the front windows and take it to the state troopers so they can verify it was removed.

[stilurkingabout]

In NY you can have tint(regardless of how dark it is) on the rear doors

FYI, totally false. The legal limit in NY is still at least 70% light transmittance for rear side windows for most types of cars. Though hardly ever written, it can be.

[Orient330iNYC]

FYI, totally false. The legal limit in NY is still at least 70% light transmittance for rear side windows for most types of cars. Though hardly ever written, it can be.


most people misread the law. you can spraypaint the rear window ( the rear WINDSHIELD) black and be legal as long as you have sideview mirrors on both sides.
on a passenger car, they can cite you for any of the SIDE windows.