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andy 323i
12-26-2001, 07:46 PM
I have one and it saved me again today on my way back from work in ct .. i was on i95 coming to NJ going a good 75 in the extreme rt lane and there were 2 e46's in the extreme left lane doing the same speed ... my radar goes green (KA BAND) i hit the brakes anmd trhese 2 e46's fly past me and sure enuff right around the corner were 2 state troopers and they pulled over the 2 e46's... Y not get a radar detector and save / try toi save yr self a ticket or 2 ... even if it saves u one ticket it has paid for it self .. even more
sorry for the rant

TD
12-26-2001, 08:01 PM
Not me.

I've used detectors for years have have owned many. And, yes, they've saved me over the years too. But I no longer use one.

Why? Because I got utterly sick of the damn thing beeping all of them time. Everytime you go past a grocery store or, in the DC area, under an overpass (the master traffic computer uses X band to assess the speed of traffic on the highway in order to detect problems and either send help or retime traffic lights).

So I got good at detecting police using my eyes and other clues. I read "The Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Tickets" written by a NY State Trooper. And I'm good at talking my way out of tickets once pulled over. If I told you all of the tickets I got out of, you truly would think I was lying/exaggerating.

Also, I do a lot of driving in Virginia and DC, the two jurisdictions in the country that outlaw detectors and the anxiety of driving in these places with a detector got a bit old.

Jason 325i Step
12-26-2001, 08:08 PM
I don't have one. I don't speed. Whenever in traffic I make sure that the other cars are still passing me. On the highway when there are posted speed linits of 55, I still do 70 in the right lane. The cars in the left lane are still passing me so why should I worry? We don't need no radar detectors!

Jason 325i Step
12-26-2001, 08:10 PM
Andy where in CT do you work? Do you live in CT too? I'm from Trumbull FYI ;)

dannyxi
12-26-2001, 08:13 PM
I don't have a radar detector because I am always lucky. I mean really lucky. :)


Danny

andy 323i
12-26-2001, 08:29 PM
i was there in fairfield today ... i am a project manager for a company in the city and a client in fairfield was having some issues so i had to go up there

geomax
12-26-2001, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by dannyxi
I don't have a radar detector because I am always lucky. I mean really lucky. :)


Danny

I hear that. I seem to have a guardian angel when it comes to the cops. I'll be driving 80 all day, then a poke will pull out in front of me - just in time to slow me down for the cop hiding around the corner....

But even angels go on vacation...so when I got a radar detector as a gift, I was psyched. It was (I say was because it fried itself recently) a pretty elaborate model - all the bands, plus laser, etc, etc. Whistler made it. It detected alright - cell phone towers, tv towers, security systems, gas stations, tvs, microwaves, fast food joints, god knows what else - except cops!! Ok, ok...I can think of a couple of times in the 3 years I used it where it saved me from a ticket. But mostly it made a racket that bugged the &%##^ outta me.

But I should get another one....I wish I wasn't a lead foot...but I am. And with a BMW..it's all too easy to drive fast. I think ESCORT is the best...by Cincinnati Microwave...pricey, but they have the best filtering.

My .02

bol
12-26-2001, 09:14 PM
I don't have one because where I live they use nothing but laser 95% of the time

nate
12-26-2001, 09:21 PM
I have a V1, but I disabled X band. It is useless where I go. :)

SteveT
12-26-2001, 09:26 PM
I have the V1 also. Just got it this past Sept for the drive to Indy for the USGP. I've had others, the V1 is in a class by itself. You don't have to hear all the door openers if you don't want to.

Patrick
12-26-2001, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by andy 323i
I have one and it saved me again today on my way back from work in ct ..


I don't have one, don't need one (I don't ever drive so fast that I would need one) and radar detectors are ILLEGAL in Finland! The police even have an anti-radar gun that can detect if someone is using a radar detector ... and if they catch you, they confiscate the detector and give you a very large fine.

Patrick

ayn
12-26-2001, 10:34 PM
V1, the smaller version, hardwired, absolutely love it.

The Austin police have been using LASER a lot though, so I've been driving only slightly above the limit.

--Andrew

ayn
12-26-2001, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by TD
Not me.

So I got good at detecting police using my eyes and other clues. I read "The Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Tickets" written by a NY State Trooper. *snip*


Hmmm... we need a GB on this book! hehe!

--Andrew

SilverBmw
12-27-2001, 12:34 AM
I have the new V1. It's great. I dont know how many times it has saved me. :) Its in a class of its of its own.

-SilverBmw

http://members.roadfly.com/silverbmw/Mvc-057s.jpg

Alex Baumann
12-27-2001, 04:01 AM
Radar warners are illegal here in Germany too. But I'd like to test one anyway.

Alex

andy 323i
12-27-2001, 04:49 AM
Instant on like any other detector out there what i found interesting was this produst.. anyone has one of those ?

http://radarjammers.com/jammers.htm


The jammers here (http://radarjammers.com/jammers.htm)

doubletee
12-27-2001, 04:52 AM
V-1! As pricey as it is, it's paid for itself multiple times.

jw
12-27-2001, 05:46 AM
They're illegal in VA and DC. Don't want an extra ticket trying to avoid the first one.

I attempt to drive somewhat near the speed limit. Granted, every now and again I tend to stray. :D

TD
12-27-2001, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by JPinTO


Radar Detectors are also illegal here in Ontario and many other Canadian Provinces. A decade ago, I lost my first detector after I was stalked by a cop with a Radar Detector Detector. The unit was seized and I got a ticket.... not a moving violation, but a vehicle violation (because it was attached to the vehicle).

I don't bother with one here either, but the current batch of high end detectors (BEL980, Passport & Valentine ) all implement some type of "shadow " technology that leaves them invisible to VG-2 and other Detector detectors. I don't bother using my BEL here, because Ontario has pretty much moved to Laser clocking where a detector doesn't help you at all.

Back when I was in college, my trip to school was almost entirely in Virginia (which even then had banned detectors). I used a BEL detector that had the "shadow" technology even back then. I put a baseball cap over it on the dash to hide it. It looked out through the semi-circular area on the back of the cap that's there to adjust it to fit your head.

And, yeah, it saved me many times.

But I still don't use one now. And I honestly haven't slowed down much. Luck and skill are my allies now.

jw
12-27-2001, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by TD

Luck and skill are my allies now.

100% luck for me. A skill in itself.

chalkem77
12-27-2001, 12:29 PM
just got the 8500 a few months ago. however, i'm really not sure how many times it may have saved me or how effective it really is because everytime i hear an unusual beep from it, i slow down. i usually then look around, but i almost never see a cop, so they may be well hidden or on the other side of the freeway.

in fact, now that i think about it, there have been numerous times on the freeway when i am not really speeding and i drive by a cop parked on the side while my radar detector remains silent... could be because the cops don't have their radar on or have instant-on radar. either way, it's scary because my detector doesn't make a peep.

however, i do feel a little safer with a detector and if it saves me just once, it's worth it. you just have to realize that it isn't foolproof and a license to speed.

btw, does anyone here know what kinds of radar are most used in the bay area (approx percentage breakdown of k/ka/x/laser if possible)? thanks.

Mr. E
12-27-2001, 12:58 PM
No detector for me, and I've never been stopped for speeding. I stay right about the speed limit wherever possible, and where not possible (on the freeway) I make sure there are plenty of people still passing me. It might sound boring, but I get my thrills on the mountain roads where the max speed is 55 but the turns limit [other] drivers to far less than that. :D

JST
12-27-2001, 01:12 PM
I had one in high school; it was a Uniden RD9XL, IIRC. At the time, it was rated one of the better mid-range detectors, not in the same league as the Passport but very good for the price (this was well before the Valentine One).

I found that the detector offered very little in the way of real protection. Even then, many police were using instant-on radar, and in most highway situations, the detector was not as good an indicator of police presence as the brake lights of the cars ahead. In daily driving, you learn to anticipate speed trap locations, so you don't really need the detector to tell you to be careful in those areas. Finally, there are so many spurious sources of radar that using the detector in an unfamiliar area is a crapshoot.

FWIW, shortly after getting the detector, I got pulled over 7 different times in two weeks (and it wasn't because I was going faster; my driving did not change significantly). My suspicion is that whether you are tagged or not depends a lot more on luck than it does on radar countermeasures.

Haven't owned one since.

lib
12-27-2001, 08:21 PM
I ordered a V1 this week.

I got a ticket for going 92 in a 50 zone on the highway (I91 north, in Hartford). It was 2am, and I was stupid. Unfortunately I was cruising at just over 100 and couldnt slow down fast enough once I saw the trooper. The ticket cost me way more than the V1, not to mention the insurance increase I am paying for now.

Speeding isn't something I should do, but I can't help it.. and I suspect when I get my new car, I'll be even worse.

Emission
12-27-2001, 09:34 PM
I have never gotten a radar ticket with a detector in the car.

I have received two radar speeding tickets when I didn't have my detector in the car.

Today, I have an 8500 in my 330i, and in my wife's Volvo V70. I am taking NO chances!

They work amazingly well.

pcmike
04-27-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by andy 323i
Instant on like any other detector out there what i found interesting was this produst.. anyone has one of those ?

http://radarjammers.com/jammers.htm


The jammers here (http://radarjammers.com/jammers.htm)

This may be years late, but... Rocky Mountain Radar equipment is utterly worthless. Always has been, always will be; stay clear. :tsk:

tgravo2
04-27-2003, 08:08 PM
I don't, I don't like the way they look in the car :dunno:

mullhaupt
04-27-2003, 10:12 PM
I have the passport 8500 and I think its great, got a ticket from a state patrol a week after I got the car and decided to get one since its hard to keep under the limit. It works great on the photo radar trucks it save me probably 10 times even got saved once from a cop useing laser, I was shocked, another time it didnt pick up the lazer untill it hit me, I think the more open space the better it works on lazer. For the guy that says it always goes off, all the time, you can turn off the band that the cops dont use in your area, it took about a month and I finally new they were not useing X band, just K, KA and Lazer. Also I have it programmed so when its on I can read the volts the alternater is putting out. I acts as a volt meter, I think thats pretty cool since BMW doest have a volt meter.

Mdk330i
04-27-2003, 10:49 PM
I do not have one. I rely mostly on my eyes and just knowing where speed traps exist. But I've been thinking about getting one.

How effective are radar detectors on the highway? I figure CHP can't really use anything on the freeway other than their own speedometer. On the streets, I know it can be effective. I just saw a cop hiding out in a driveway today. Fortunately I got stuck behind a bus so I wasn't speeding.

TGray5
04-28-2003, 01:07 AM
I have a Passport 8500 and am very happy with it. I shut off X mode and really like the auto mute mode. I believe that its the equal of the V1 and can be had for $250 if you shop around. Makes no sense IMO to not have one unless you always obey the speed limit and we know that no one does. Small side benefit, the shell of the 8500 matches the shadow chrome intererior of my M3 almost perfectly:thumbup:

Sean
04-28-2003, 04:23 AM
V1 :thumbup:

Ack
04-28-2003, 05:04 AM
I have a Bel 980 and it has definitely saved me and paid for itself. I also disabled the X band on it since none of the cops in my area use it.

OBS3SSION
04-28-2003, 05:09 AM
No. I don't have one.

They are a distraction, going off all the time on false alarms.

They give a false sense of security, you can still get nailed with instant-on or a cruiser that is pacing you.

They make some people speed more than if they didn't have it.

Personally, I don't want or need one because I try to never put myself in a position where I can get a ticket. I'll always cruise on the highway and make sure there are others passing me. I always stay in the right lane unless I'm passing. (and yes... I DO speed... generally cruise around 73-78 or so.) And in about 15 years, I've only gotten 2 tickets. One when I was 17, and another $80 ticket because the cop must have been short on his quota or something.

Bill325Ci
04-28-2003, 08:43 AM
I've got a K-40 installed unit in my 325Ci, and a Bel 985 in my F-150.

rwg
04-28-2003, 01:56 PM
I got rid of my Escort in exchange for a V1. Worth it's weight in gold on cross country trips.

F1Crazy
04-28-2003, 02:30 PM
I have a Passport 8500, hardwired and positioned to the right of the mirror so it's practically invisible from the outside and not disturbing from the inside.
Auto mute and possibility of turning X band off makes it completely user friendly, no annoying false alarms here.

On the issue of false security - you must be a fool to think you're untouchable, if you use some common sense it is very useful device.
After 2 weeks of ownership I've learned what signals may be a possible threat. Instant on is the most deadly weapon here and you just have to be careful and restrain yourself from speeding when driving alone on empty hwy in unknown territory.

MD2b
04-28-2003, 05:32 PM
i have a v1, plus a 8500, k40 and bel 855. v1 is the pick of the litter but they have all dutifully helped me battle the opp and city police. :angel:

in_d_haus
04-28-2003, 06:18 PM
V1

The RedShift
04-29-2003, 09:59 PM
Escort Passport 8500. You don't have to drive like a maniac to benefit from an RD. I drive through 2 different towns on the way to work that are totally anal about photo radar tickets. One of the people I work with got a ticket for 3 MPH over the speed limit. I use my 8500 to spot that photo crap and slow down to exactly the speed limit. It has saved me numerous times. Well worth it. BTW I mounted mine to the left of the mirror, hardwired. I think it looks good on the inside of my 330Ci. As a matter of fact I had the dealer install the hardwiring before I took delivery. I am very uncomfortable driving without a radar detector in the car.

GimpyMcFarlan
04-30-2003, 01:58 PM
Switched from a Passport 7500 to a V1 when I got my Coupe last fall. I've found that the V1 warns much better than the Passport ever did. :thumbup:

Ausgang
04-30-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by TD
Not me.

I've used detectors for years have have owned many. And, yes, they've saved me over the years too. But I no longer use one.

Why? Because I got utterly sick of the damn thing beeping all of them time. Everytime you go past a grocery store or, in the DC area, under an overpass (the master traffic computer uses X band to assess the speed of traffic on the highway in order to detect problems and either send help or retime traffic lights).

So I got good at detecting police using my eyes and other clues. I read "The Speeder's Guide to Avoiding Tickets" written by a NY State Trooper. And I'm good at talking my way out of tickets once pulled over. If I told you all of the tickets I got out of, you truly would think I was lying/exaggerating.

Also, I do a lot of driving in Virginia and DC, the two jurisdictions in the country that outlaw detectors and the anxiety of driving in these places with a detector got a bit old.

It scares me to think how many other ways TD and I would have the exact same answer on a post. My detector now rests in my closet. I may take it out for a long trip across many states, but haven't used it since my last trip to Maine.

supercharged
04-30-2003, 02:29 PM
No radar detectors no speeding tickets I just use the old fashion way on slowing down near bridges, over/underpasses, and traditonal police hiding places.

Emission
04-30-2003, 02:41 PM
I haven't read this entire post, so don't kill me if this is old news.

My Passport 8500 (I have two) allows you to eliminate bands that you don't want. As a result, I have X-Band completely turned off on my unit. Now, 85% of the alarms are real. In all honesty, it maybe beeps once a day...

Jay
04-30-2003, 02:56 PM
Count me into the non-radar-detector-user camp.

I think radar detectors are a racket. They cost a fortune, and naturally they become obsolete every year or so. So you get to shell out $500 U.S. or so every two years, and even at that pace you're behind in this fabulous, gotta have technology

I had a radar detector years ago when I was a teenager in Alberta. I got more speeding tickets when I had it than when I ditched it. It was a nuisance, constantly falsing, and yet another unwanted distraction from the road.

The police know how to deal with radar detectors with simple techniques such as instant-on. Another police favorite is to blast a line of cars with radar and see who slams on the brakes. This is a trick used to identify radar detector users. Cops give no breaks to drivers with obvious radar detectors.

The best way to avoid speeding tickets is to be familiar with the road that you are travelling on. Know where the police hide and place their radar traps. Have fun, but drive well and in a way that does not draw attention to yourself.

Jay

mquetel
04-30-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Jay
...Cops give no breaks to drivers with obvious radar detectors...

Out here in the NW, I've talked to quite a number of people recently who have noticed a surge in police and photo radar traffic enforcement. The economic/political environment here has tax and fee revenues way down and signficant public opposition to any new fees. In this climate, agressively enforcing speed and other traffic laws is seen as a way to help replace lost revenue.

If pulled over I would not expect any breaks, so my goal is avoid it. When my car arrives I won't be driving like an idiot, but I'm also buying a V1 to continue to improve my odds. :angel:

Skim330Ci
04-30-2003, 04:58 PM
It's illegal in Virginia, but I used to use it. I was driving on this residential street one time and saw a cop hiding on the side of the road. I didn't have my radar set up, so I drove down about 50 yards and pulled over to the side of the street to set-up my radar to see if it was any good. After a quick set up, I stuck out the rader outside my driver side window and it was beeping like crazy, 2 seconds later I hear a cop siren and he just drove past me while I was holding this radar out of my window :rofl: He kept going and I realized that he was going after another guy that was speed thru that street. But for a second I thought I was going to get a huge ticket for illegal posession of a radar.

supercharged
04-30-2003, 05:38 PM
my 2nd radar detector after by instict for cops is the 3.46 gears.....less top end to be tempted by more acceleration where Im inside the limits

GalBimmer
04-30-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by TD
Back when I was in college, my trip to school was almost entirely in Virginia (which even then had banned detectors). I used a BEL detector that had the "shadow" technology even back then. I put a baseball cap over it on the dash to hide it. It looked out through the semi-circular area on the back of the cap that's there to adjust it to fit your head.

And, yeah, it saved me many times.

But I still don't use one now. And I honestly haven't slowed down much. Luck and skill are my allies now.

OMG that is too funny. Driving around with a radar detector peeking through the back of a baseball hat!!! :rofl:

GalBimmer
04-30-2003, 05:54 PM
V1 - love it; only use it for road trips. Well worth the $400.
Simply the best. :thumbup: