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HyphE36

01-01-2009, 03:58 PM

77vetteguy

01-01-2009, 04:18 PM

:dunno:An auto parts store:dunno:

e36mike

01-01-2009, 06:21 PM

kragen in martinez should have it. they did last time i was there. my buddys work there i can find out if u really need to come out here for it.

martinez is like 30-45 minutes from san fran haha.

DNRC

01-01-2009, 07:47 PM

O'Reily, Advance Auto Parts

FadetoCrimson1

01-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Foxider2012

01-02-2009, 12:21 AM

I want to change my oil tomorrow and I want to use Royal Purple, however I don't know where to find it...

I live in San Francisco and have been to several Kragen stores but they do not carry it, and I don't really feel like waiting for an online order. Does anybody know where in the SF Bay Area I can track some of this elusive lubricant down?

Honestly I would not use it.... I owned a 91 318 and I used royal purple in that car and now there is a hole in my engine from throwing a rod.... I took it to bmw with a WTF speach and they looked into it and found that the royal purple was the cause of the whole thing. :mad: that was a good car despite that it was a 4 banger....

B/\/\W

01-02-2009, 04:20 AM

Cut a hole in Barney the dinosaur and let it splurge out into a suitable container.

Chris S

01-02-2009, 04:35 AM

Honestly I would not use it.... I owned a 91 318 and I used royal purple in that car and now there is a hole in my engine from throwing a rod.... I took it to bmw with a WTF speach and they looked into it and found that the royal purple was the cause of the whole thing. :mad: that was a good car despite that it was a 4 banger....

howd royal purple make your car throw a rod?
As far as i know royal purple is just a type of synthetic oil so it shouldn't really kill your car any more than some other synthetic oil would.

B/\/\W

01-02-2009, 05:03 AM

howd royal purple make your car throw a rod?
As far as i know royal purple is just a type of synthetic oil so it shouldn't really kill your car any more than some other synthetic oil would.

The long term effects of the oil are yet to be explored, that's all I know. I read a report once that it is superior in terms of its lubricating properties, but can cause a reduction in engine longevity. I'm not sure how, but I think it has something to do with the size of metallic particles that build-up in the oil over time.

Foxider2012

01-02-2009, 08:58 AM

Almost excactly what B/\/\W said, there were allot of metal shavings in the engine and they got everywhere. they tested what oil was left and found a bigger quantity of these metal shavings than should be there, almost like I havent changed the oil in it since I bought it. The oil, instead of letting the magnet on the drain plug do its work and collect all of these metal shavings, kept all the metal from setteling to the bottom. So everytime I ran my engine all the oil was doing was putting metal where oil should be.

suntex01

01-02-2009, 09:01 AM

It depends bro. I know Pepboys doesnt sell it neither does Autozone..

I KNOW for a fact Napa sells it but Napa isnt as big of a chain as pepboys or autozone so try to find a Napa near you and give them a call just to make sure they have some in stock lol

Actually, Pepboys in Atlanta carries it. That's where I got mine. I think Autozone here only carries royal purple lubricant, not the motor oil.

HyphE36

01-02-2009, 09:05 AM

Foxider2012

01-02-2009, 09:29 AM

People always seem to blame engine problems on Royal Purple when they use it and find out later they have a leak (I have absolutely no idea how it would throw a rod...) but I love how one person put it. "Royal Purple is very very good at lubricating your engine, Royal Purple won't make a hole in your engine, but if you have one it will find it" I'm trusting my engine is fine, it has been well maintained, and should Royal Purple find a leak in it then I will be alerted to it and fix it, and my engine will be even healthier than before. So I will stick with my plan for a RP change. Time to make some calls and track this stuff down I reckon. Thanks for the tips everyone.

Yes but talking to the people that know more about these car than any of us, you know the guys that come up with the specs of the car spend their whole life around them and have recieved more than one phone call about royal purple detonating Bimmer engines, advised me very strongly against royal purple. Oh and the oil didn't put the hole in my engine the throwing the rod part did, which royal purple was to blame. Some people have better expierences than others with the oil.

PhilipWOT

01-02-2009, 02:45 PM

Where can I find Royal Purple?

Eh, just mix some Royal Blue with Serf Red. It's practically the same thing.

suntex01

01-02-2009, 02:57 PM

Yes but talking to the people that know more about these car than any of us, you know the guys that come up with the specs of the car spend their whole life around them and have recieved more than one phone call about royal purple detonating Bimmer engines, advised me very strongly against royal purple. Oh and the oil didn't put the hole in my engine the throwing the rod part did, which royal purple was to blame. Some people have better expierences than others with the oil.

Unless those people who had their engine blown used Royal purple from the beginning, when the car was still brand new I would take the stories with a grain of salt. There's so many variables in the claim and plus most e36 are not new by now. So those blown engines probably have seen alot before Royal Purple was introduced to its system. Yes they might know their stuff but unless there's any scientific evidence showing the oil causes damages in the long run, I'm no so sure the oil would be to blaim. As far as I can tell, the only problem would be for an old car like e36 switching to a synthetic and then causing oil leaks due to its detergent properties.

Just because your engine fails after you changed Royal Purple doesn't necessarily mean that RP is the problem. Your engine might have problems to begin with, and RP just "pointed" the problem out.

Now this brings up a question, I wonder if there are any similar stories on e36 with other synthetics...

Foxider2012

01-02-2009, 04:19 PM

Unless those people who had their engine blown used Royal purple from the beginning, when the car was still brand new I would take the stories with a grain of salt. There's so many variables in the claim and plus most e36 are not new by now. So those blown engines probably have seen alot before Royal Purple was introduced to its system. Yes they might know their stuff but unless there's any scientific evidence showing the oil causes damages in the long run, I'm no so sure the oil would be to blaim. As far as I can tell, the only problem would be for an old car like e36 switching to a synthetic and then causing oil leaks due to its detergent properties.

Just because your engine fails after you changed Royal Purple doesn't necessarily mean that RP is the problem. Your engine might have problems to begin with, and RP just "pointed" the problem out.

Now this brings up a question, I wonder if there are any similar stories on e36 with other synthetics...

Ok the car had 1 owner since new and that was my dad. and most of the time it was sitting in the garage doing nothing, and yes that could very well damage an engine with moisture and all, but the engine had nothing in it no gas, no oil, until about 3 years ago. We had the engine recleaned by Bmw and put it back together and it ran great with Penzoil then I had the engine go through yet another full cleaning and had Bmw test it they foud nothing wrong with it, then put royal purple in it and I was happy with Rp for about 3 weeks then it randomly decided to detonate? I don't think so. the car had a little under 38 thousand miles on it. I don't know u tell me.

HyphE36

01-03-2009, 09:29 AM

the bentley manual says to replace the metal sealing washer for the drain plug when doing an oil change, I was wondering where I can find this, do I have to go by the dealership or can I find one at my local auto parts store when I get the oil and filter? Also I want a high quality filter, any suggestions or parts numbers?

77vetteguy

01-03-2009, 10:17 AM

probably the best filter is from bmw. as far as the metal washer i wouldnt bother. the manual says all kinds of crap should do but is completely useless

HyphE36

01-03-2009, 02:08 PM

yeah, I figured I could probably get away without replacing the washer but I live about 10 minutes away from the dealership so I just went and got one anyway, 56 cents for piece of mind seemed like a good price to me. And I got a bosch oil filter from NAPA. I am also going to be seafoaming today :) My car is going to be a happy camper, I'll let you all know how goes when done. OH, and I finally found RP in the right weight from a small auto parts store, NAPA and Kragen only carried limited weights and quantities :( For those in the bay area, San Francisco, who are looking for RP check out Gotelli Speed Shop off of El Camino Real in south city, very cool shop and very friendly.

PhilipWOT

01-03-2009, 02:44 PM

probably the best filter is from bmw. as far as the metal washer i wouldnt bother. the manual says all kinds of crap should do but is completely useless

:rofl:

Epic maintenance fail.

:eek:

HyphE36

01-03-2009, 02:54 PM

haha

Nline6

01-03-2009, 05:02 PM

my washer is a hard plastic, I just re-use it, so far so good.

PhilipWOT

01-03-2009, 05:38 PM

my washer is a hard plastic, I just re-use it, so far so good.

The metal ring on your drain plug needs to be replaced every time. It's a "crush ring" not a washer.

HyphE36

01-03-2009, 06:04 PM

philip is correct, there is a small metal ring, not really a washer, it needs to be replaced EVERYTIME because when it is tightened it warps so that there are no leaks, re-using this will give you a leak, plain and simple. there is also one at the top of the long bolt that holds the cap of your oil filter housing on that also needs to be replaced everytime. If you buy a decent filter they should come with it (and the 2 O-rings, one small, one large, that need replacing on that long filter housing bolt everytime as well).

SOOOO... I'm done changing the oil and seafoaming my car... INCREDIBLE difference! My engine is much quieter, smoother, rev's more responsive and easier going, no stick, and I expect MPG to rise, though only time well tell on that aspect...

Here is how my day went... I ran seafoam with my oil for about 50 miles earlier today before I changed the oil to get as much gunk as I could out, as some one else put it, the oil that came out was "blacker than satans' heart" and thick to boot. I also put seafoam in my fuel tank, and will continue to run this tank down as near to empty as I can and then change the fuel filter after. I seafoamed through the brake booster into the manifold, let sit for 20 minutes, then continued to clean that part of the system as well (my little brother took a video with my phone I will post later, its pretty cool haha :D ) After all is said and done, my car is a much happier, cleaner, responsive ride than it was this morning, and not just a placebo effect, I just picked up my girlfriend and she commented on it before I was able to say anything :D :D And the cherry on top of this better feeling car sundae is that it was really fun! I will get that video up asap, it does a lot more for explaining the fun aspect than words ;)

Nline6

01-03-2009, 10:30 PM

I know what a crush washer is, my drain bolt does not have one. its a plastic washer, one that does not get "crushed" and destroyed when the bolt is tightened. no drips, no leaks. your oil filter housing however does have a Crush ring, one time use...

HyphE36

01-04-2009, 10:21 AM

I reckon that could be, your crush washer along the line could have been replaced with a rubber one, at this shop I went to this guy told me I would need this washer that was metal on the outside and rubber on the inside, he said that thats what they used and could be re-used, I guess it could work, but I'm going to stick with what bentley, the dealership, and others here recommend.

suntex01

01-04-2009, 02:39 PM

Ok the car had 1 owner since new and that was my dad. and most of the time it was sitting in the garage doing nothing, and yes that could very well damage an engine with moisture and all, but the engine had nothing in it no gas, no oil, until about 3 years ago. We had the engine recleaned by Bmw and put it back together and it ran great with Penzoil then I had the engine go through yet another full cleaning and had Bmw test it they foud nothing wrong with it, then put royal purple in it and I was happy with Rp for about 3 weeks then it randomly decided to detonate? I don't think so. the car had a little under 38 thousand miles on it. I don't know u tell me.

OK, I shouldnt be questioning when I don't know what went wrong with your car. Beside your rods went out or something. Care to elaborate a bit more? If what you meant by engine cleaning was an "engine" flush I would question that as a part of your problem. I've heard stories of "engine flushes" as well. And after having no oil, no gas for a while, I would think that some engine seals would have gone bad after not being ran nor lubricated with proper lubrication. Thus, unless the engine was completely taken apart, properly examined / lubricated ,and sealed after sitting for so long, I would the "cleaning" would be questionable. For example, when ships and equipment such as guns are mothballed, they are often first cleaned then sealed with heavy oil. This is to prevent the lack of lubrication for seals to fail over time and also oxidation of metallic parts. Trust me, seals and parts do fail even if it just sits there.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend RP nor attack you even though I haven't had any problems with it since it was put in my car two months ago. I'm just trying to say, because engine failed after three weeks of RP doesn't necessarily mean its to blame. Unless you can single out the cause of failure down to lubrication, I think its very open ended to almost anything.

I'm just trying to examine this claim more scientifically and more analysis. I'm far from being a BMW expert though I'm a professional engineer.

I'm really curious as to whether or not others have had engine failure with other lubrication other than RP. I'd like to hear stories on that.