Why put an M badge on a non M car?

[BombSquad91]

I'm getting an M tech M type bumper and M side skirts. I'm also putting in a full M3 interior. I don't want to be one of those guys that passes of my 325is as an M. I'm thinking about putting my 325is badge back on or even getting a custom plate "NOTANM3". My question is why the f!ck do people put M badges on non M cars? If a stock 325 with an M badge pulls up to a real M3, they're gonna get burnt. And if the 325 is supercharged with 436hp to the wheels, wouldn't having a 325 badge give them more pride burning an M3?

[E36 Phantom]

Fully agreed. :thumbup:

My guess is they realize that 90% of the people won't be able to tell the difference and just see the badge. Of course, they forget that 1/2 those people won't even know what an M3 is, and the other half won't really care either way, and then of the 10% that can tell the difference or race them, they'll just get laughed at or look like a bad driver.

So all around, it's a dumb idea.

[cmy_bimmer]

:tsk:

[325i e36]

i hate that when they try to pass that off. its just stupid.it just says, im to cheap to buy a real m3 so ill see if i can pass it off as a m3.

[Adam318is]

What gets me is that the culprits that do put the ///M badge on a 318/323/325/328 9 times out of 10 also dump TONS of money on all the M Technic aesthetics, performance upgrades, etc.

Soooooooo why not just get a f***ing ///M3?!?

And while still forking out the money for routine/preventative maintenance on your newly souped-up false-///M, you could have bought several stock ///M3's and been set from the get go. I don't get it.

I enjoy my car for what it is, nothing less, nothing more. If I was in the market to get something that smokes life and hauls ass on a daily basis, I would have purchased an ///M. My 318 is underpowered, sure, but it's an economical 4-banger that has trademark BMW styling/handling and I got it for a steal. Why make your car into something it's not?

...as long as I can still smoke riced-out Civics with absolutely ridiculous body kits and aluminum-ladder spoilers. That's really all that matters ;)

[BombSquad91]

So what should I do?
Put my 325is badge back on? :dunno:
Custom plate "NOTANM3"? :thumbup:
Custom plate "325IS" or "MY325IS"?:dunno:

[philippek]

So what should I do?
Put my 325is badge back on? :dunno:
Custom plate "NOTANM3"? :thumbup:
Custom plate "325IS" or "MY325IS"?:dunno:

Custom plate M MAYBE

[MalibuMafiaV]

I agree to man.
I don't know why people do that either.
I'd for sure rep my is badge.
I keep my 328i badge on my car for a reason.
I'm proud of my 328i.

[Adam318is]

Moral of this story is Bombsquad, like everyone's been saying, our opinions don't ultimately matter so do whatever you want. It's your car and your money, none of us should dictate how that's divvied up.

But my personal opinion is yes, throw the 325is badge back on, because now you have a nicely equipped 325 instead of a 325 wishing it was an ///M.

Here's a funny story that is somewhat similar in theory. Outside of my office I was having a smoke break and noticed a rather nice ZR1 Corvette parked in front. On the back window, though, I noticed a familiar looking sticker placed there...the "Ferrari" emblem. I got a big kick out of that, seeing that on a pretty nice car, mind you, he throws on a huge Ferrari emblem as if to say "I really wanted this, but I had to settle for this, which is still a decent car but not quite a Ferrari." Now, Corvettes never did anything for me per se but they're respectable cars.

Then the owner walks out to get back in, and he's wearing a f***ing Ferrari baseball cap! It just looked so strange to me. Granted, it's awesome that he's a Ferrari fan, and not many of us can come close to affording one, but to plaster the damn emblem on the back window just seemed a little...goofy and campy. Why couldn't he have enjoyed the ZR1 for what it was?

[BombSquad91]

...as long as I can still smoke riced-out Civics with absolutely ridiculous body kits and aluminum-ladder spoilers. That's really all that matters ;)

Not all Civics are riced out. 352whp. 10 second car. No body kit. No wing. No stickers. Just a front lip and a 3inch drop. These pics were pre turbo. Sorry, I get a little touchy when people talk about Civics. My baby was stolen.:bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling:

[Adam318is]

Sorry to hear that. I realize not all Civics are, I actually love them for road trips as they get incredible gas mileage. It's just that the Civic seems to be a popular choice among those who like to throw cheap looking plastic s*** all over their car and think it makes it faster.

[BombSquad91]

Hold up, aren't bimmer drivers supposed to have Ferrari hats and jackets and be wearing 2 bluetooths?

[BombSquad91]

I agree. The ugliest cars i've ever seen have been riced out Civics. My exhaust didn't sound ricey but it was LOUD. U can't quiet a 3inch turbo back exhaust. But it wasn't high pitched, it was deep.

[bimmerbarbie]

I like the debadged look, but I always have. Just me.

Adam, maybe the Vette was his daily driver and the Ferrari was at home in the garage. Could be.

Just throwing this out there, not all ///M3 conversions are just the aesthetic upgrades. You go by VIN number, IMO. I will say though, that I don't have the ///M badges on and I don't plan on putting any on either. Rather them not know what I have.

[BombSquad91]

You know Amber, when I first met you and Chad, Chad said you were pure evil with an attitude to match. But quite often I see you playing the role of defending the underdog.

[bimmerbarbie]

Oh I am! "Pure evil with an attitude to match".... I like that! Good description! :bustingup :bustingup :bustingup


In this case, I was actually defending myself b/c I don't like people thinking I pose as an ///M3.

Keep it quiet that I can be nice, don't want to ruin my reputation. :D

[SteveinBelAir]

I saw an X5 today with M badges!

[E36 Phantom]

You know Amber, when I first met you and Chad, Chad said you were pure evil with an attitude to match. But quite often I see you playing the role of defending the underdog.

I did? She totally is, but I sure don't remember saying that. :dunno: Maybe context would help some.

But that's a slick lookin' Civic, as far as Civics go. :p

[kanovic]

i hate that when they try to pass that off. its just stupid.it just says, im to cheap to buy a real m3 so ill see if i can pass it off as a m3.

so whats the diff between putting a m3 eblem as it says your too cheap to buy a real m3 to buy a m3 bumpers and such....:dunno:

[Ryan...]

haven't you heard? The //M badge actually adds about 14 HP to the wheels, and I have the dyno sheets to prove it!

About the civic, 352 to the wheels is nice, the only problem is that the power is going to the wrong wheels! The torque steer must be insane, and any power through the turns and you'll go straight off the road and into a tree. My cousin had a nice little civic, 5 speed, some engine mods with around 220-240 at the wheels (dyno runs varied from place to place), fun little car! Props for not adding a ridiculous wing to your FWD ride, and it looks nice!

[bimmerbarbie]

so whats the diff between putting a m3 eblem as it says your too cheap to buy a real m3 to buy a m3 bumpers and such....:dunno:

The difference between the bumpers/mirrors/interior and a badge is that the body pieces could be just because they have such a cleaner look, not that the 325 is trying to pass for an ///M3. Sporting the ///M3 badge is just trying to act like it's an ///M, no aesthetic value whatsoever. Similar to the NA Hondas running around with the Zoner "Turbo" badges on the back.

[jasonf860]

FYI guys (and gals) 318ti's in Europe and Australia came factory with M technic packages and ///M badges. The US is the only retarded place that got de-tuned cars and not all the options. Some of these ///M package cars even made delivery in Canada! That being said, there is nothing wrong with ///M badges, in fact, many, many BMW's came with ///M badges that were not M3's,M5's, etc. All that means is it has M-technic add ons. The real issue is having ///M3 badges on a non-M car. As long as your not pretending to be one, then what's the issue?

My car has about as much ///M in it as any M3 out there and will smoke any stock M3 there is. I also paid a lot less than an M3 in the same condition and pay less for insurance and taxes. I say that's a win-win situation for me.

And for the record, My car is debadged, has the ///M insignia on the side moldings, (they are an M-technic retrofit afterall) and I have M3 door sills just cause they are much better than the non-M ones.

[buzzard211]

Well if your gonna put the M badge on the non M you need one of these to go along with it!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Blow-Off-Sound-94-98-97-Honda-Accord-JDM-Muffler_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66 Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c2 93Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZ item300300539989QQitemZ300300539989QQptZMotorsQ5fC arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

LOL

[cjf351]

The one thing I DON"T like about ///m cars is all the badges and stripes all over it. I do understand that someone that can afford such a car would want to show it off, but I think bmw goes to a bit of an extreme to make them stand out. I think the styling would be enough. and maybe a badge on the trunk.

[BombSquad91]

Jason, no joke, thanks for the other side of the coin POV.

Thanks for the compliments on the Civic everyone. I totally went classy with it. My tails were the same as my bimmers, clear and red. No wing. No stickers. 20% tint all around including windshield. Blackout grill. JDM headlights with black background. Front lip. It was gonna be a sleeper but it's not possible. A huge FMIC, a 3" drop, and a 3" turbo back. I got revved on every light. Plus, the plate said MOMSVTEC.

[BombSquad91]

i love that fake turbo thing!!!!!!

[bimmerbarbie]

Yo, BS, you didn't answer Chad. Where'd he say that I was evil yada yada?

[BombSquad91]

When I first met you two you were being nice. He kept commenting over and over and over again how that's so out of character for you. I paraphrased the evility.

[BombSquad91]

Chad, Amber, check this out for me. Lemme know what you think before I put it on the other boards.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4011289#post4011289

[bimmerbarbie]

Aaahhh, we thought it was a direct quote and were both confused. Good paraphrasing! Liked it!

Yeah, looks like it'll work to me. Throw it on CL too.

[E36 Phantom]

The one thing I DON"T like about ///m cars is all the badges and stripes all over it. I do understand that someone that can afford such a car would want to show it off, but I think bmw goes to a bit of an extreme to make them stand out. I think the styling would be enough. and maybe a badge on the trunk.
Really? They don't have that much badging, just the stripes on the seats and the small logo on the door trim. If anything, I've always thought BMW did a good job at hinting at the performance while still being subtle.
Plus, the plate said MOMSVTEC.
Wait, you get 8 characters to use on the plate? WTF.
When I first met you two you were being nice. He kept commenting over and over and over again how that's so out of character for you. I paraphrased the evility.
LMAO. It is out of character for her.....:eeps:

JP.
Chad, Amber, check this out for me. Lemme know what you think before I put it on the other boards.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4011289#post4011289
Looks good, but I don't like the way shipping is worded. I think that's something you should discuss separately with the buyer, and just mention that shipping isn't included in the ad.

[BombSquad91]

Thanks beautiful. ;)

[BombSquad91]

Good looks Chad. Changed it.

[E36youngster]

I saw an X5 today with M badges!

they are making those ya know..supposed to be coming soon. X5M and X6M :eeps:

[BombSquad91]

X6M. SO HOT!!!! :jack:

[dinanm3atl]

It is perfectly fine to put an ///M Badge.

It is not ok to put a 3 next to it.


Why?

If you have MTech parts than you have an "///M"... not an "M3" but you do have an ///M. Shoot, BMW released cars badged like that from the factory. M540i, M535i etc

[MrBoss]

I agree with most all of you.
Putting M badges on a 325i is the same as putting Type R badges on a civic DX. It's a ricey thing to do so people who dont know squat think your cooler than you really are. However I take no issue with M parts being used on non-M cars (take my new bumper for example). They look nicer and they still look like/are factory parts as opposed to going off the deep end...

[Missmodena310]

What gets me is that the culprits that do put the ///M badge on a 318/323/325/328 9 times out of 10 also dump TONS of money on all the M Technic aesthetics, performance upgrades, etc.

Soooooooo why not just get a f***ing ///M3?!?

And while still forking out the money for routine/preventative maintenance on your newly souped-up false-///M, you could have bought several stock ///M3's and been set from the get go. I don't get it.


+1000000 i totally agree the money they wasted could have purchased an M

[cjf351]

[QUOTE=E36 Phantom;4011321]Really? They don't have that much badging, just the stripes on the seats and the small logo on the door trim. If anything, I've always thought BMW did a good job at hinting at the performance while still being subtle.

Correct me if i am wrong, (I don't ride in M cars very often (ever)) But aren't there badges on the front and rear, each door sill, dash, one on each wheel, engine, floor mats, steering wheel, and stripes on all four seats?

[E36 Phantom]

Correct me if i am wrong, (I don't ride in M cars very often (ever)) But aren't there badges on the front and rear, each door sill, dash, one on each wheel, engine, floor mats, steering wheel, and stripes on all four seats?

Badge on the rear. Not on the front. Tiny emblem on the door strips. Small badge on each wheel. That's it from the outside.
On the inside, logos on the sills, mats, small one on the instrument cluster, small set of stripes on the seats, and a smaller Motorsport logo imprinted on the wheel. In the engine, BMW Motorsports on the plastic beauty cover.

IMO, not overdone. Just small logos here and there. To each his own :dunno:

[dinanm3atl]

Well the comment about 'cheaper to buy an ///M3' is simply not true.

How many 35000-5000 dollar M3s are there in decent shape? Not many... Now put M3 cams, m50 manifold, 3.23/3.38 diff, Intake, Exhaust... 328 is faster.

Orrrrrrrrr

5000 dollar 328 + 4500 supercharger kit. Who do you think is faster?


Handling is not really a comparison because parts and results from upgrades are equal on the models.


Either way, as an M3 owner... I'll take my modded, cheaper and faster 328 ;)

[E36 Phantom]

^ Plus one f*cking trillion.

I don't know why people always say that.

And if you'd like to buy a $35000 E36 M3, I've got a real nice bridge........ :p

[bmwboss]

When i was shopping for my second and current e36, I saw an add for an m3 for around $6,000 so of course i had to check it out. I go to the guys house and the car has an m3 front bumper but standard 3 series side skirts and rear bumper. It has m3 badges but i knew where to check for the small badges people don't normally put on a fake m3 (dash, under the hood, ect.) This car had no m3 badges other than the one in the rear. I knew at that point i wasn't buying the car but i wanted to see if he really wanted to pass it off as an m3. The conversation went as follows.

me: So that is an m3 don't those have more horsepower than a 318 (playing dumb obviously
him: yes they have around 350 horsepower (the american version? i dont think so)
me: oh that's cool but your 325 or 328 i'm not sure because of your m badges isn't quite as powerful.
him: no it really is an m3
Then i pointed out all the reasons it wasn't an m3 and he admitted to it. People like that make me so mad. Oh and it was a 328 but that is irrelevant.

[Cuahtemoc1]

Still dont like ricers..they make me laugh!!. I got a twin-screw supercharged 94 camaro SS..That would F up any little ****ing ricer or any vette on the street....It used to be a RS but i put a 454 with vette tranny and stillen twin screwed it!! Lets say... 9 seconds...???:angel:

[Cuahtemoc1]

heres a little picture to tickle your pickle...:jawdrop:

[Eight Thirty]

you are better off just debaging it

[Philip81193]

Still dont like ricers..they make me laugh!!. I got a twin-screw supercharged 94 camaro SS..That would F up any little ****ing ricer or any vette on the street....It used to be a RS but i put a 454 with vette tranny and stillen twin screwed it!! Lets say... 9 seconds...???:angel:

Need more specs. Were you not happy with the LT1? Did you buy the 454 aftermarket? Interesting.

[Cuahtemoc1]

No i was happy but needed more power...it was a 3.4 lt1..It was a built 454 by my uncle...he has a 3000+hp blown hemi in his Challenger..He built that motor for me

[bimmerbarbie]

Oh great. Mullet militia.

[imrbobby]

well at least non of you dont live in arizona.... on my way to the junk yard i "civic" was parked in the front but when i passed it, it had a integra front on it.... i was like wow are you seorus they couldnt make up there mind about a civic or an integra?!?!?!


P.S i went to the junk yard cuhs i didnt want to wait another day for a clip i lost that was for the fuel rail and the injector :rofl: sadly there was only one 325 bimmer there:cry: i wouldve tooken more out of it :D

[BombSquad91]

Still dont like ricers..they make me laugh!!. I got a twin-screw supercharged 94 camaro SS..That would F up any little ****ing ricer or any vette on the street....It used to be a RS but i put a 454 with vette tranny and stillen twin screwed it!! Lets say... 9 seconds...???:angel:

My civic ran 10.98@128. That was on 25lbs of boost with no shot. I could've maxed out my turbo at 37lbs and I had a 50 shot. With PHAT Mickey Thompsons on a nice day i'll run you.

[BombSquad91]

It's just stupid to say ricers can't beat you. There are Civics that run 7's ALL DAY and take the kids for ice cream later that night. I'll eat your bowtie and sh!t it out later.

[BombSquad91]

Still dont like ricers..they make me laugh!!. I got a twin-screw supercharged 94 camaro SS..That would F up any little ****ing ricer or any vette on the street....It used to be a RS but i put a 454 with vette tranny and stillen twin screwed it!! Lets say... 9 seconds...???:angel:

By the way, what did you actually run at the track? Bullsh!t estimates aside.

[dinanm3atl]

It's just stupid to say ricers can't beat you. There are Civics that run 7's ALL DAY and take the kids for ice cream later that night. I'll eat your bowtie and sh!t it out later.

7s in the 1/4 and get ice cream?

Please post link... I doubt that.

[Cuahtemoc1]

Lol the thing is i never had but im sitting at id say easy 650+ lol haahh ill take those kids for a Whopper meal with a large drink at the end of the day!..what now ricer man!!?? ahhah 7 is way past pro street....I can still drive my car with decent gas mileage....the thing is that you dont have those 7 second ricers do you?i love new york kids..they are so bad...oo yeah and ill eat yo mommas ***** and then save some for later...how you like that?:wow:

[BombSquad91]

Maybe i'm being a little over zealous. But you get my point. Civic's are just as good at the track as any other car. Besides, once you reach like 8's, it's a shell of a car anyway.

[dinanm3atl]

Cool. You can combine the power in both cars and I can take you in my stock motor M3 around Road Atlanta.

So what?

[BombSquad91]

Go to the track or even dyno ur car. Until then, shut the f#ck up a$$hole.

[BombSquad91]

I love people that have to list every mod in their sig. Totally making up for lacking somewhere else.

[BombSquad91]

This car will whup you.
http://www.timeattackforums.com/forums/private-sale/962-fs-ls2-350z.html

[Cuahtemoc1]

lol everyone lists thier mods dip ****! hahah go back to the ricer forums...

[imrbobby]

stfu about hondas please!! this is a BIMMER FORUM! if you want to talk **** go to vtech.net or some crap

[e36mike]

the funny thing bout the ///M badge is i notice most the people that do it, and that i see, is on the 318s etc. its usually the slowest of the 3 series that try to imitate. the other day i a ///M318i badge on the back of one. and i was just thinking, ok 1 thats just lame 2 it looks horrendous.

[dinanm3atl]

Go to the track or even dyno ur car. Until then, shut the f#ck up a$$hole.

Me? I have bolt on upgrades. Why would I pay to dyno my car.

This car will whup you.
http://www.timeattackforums.com/forums/private-sale/962-fs-ls2-350z.html

A 350z with an LS2? Probably will beat me. I can't keep up on the straight and a 350z has some decent handling. So yes, it would probably beat me. The car looks like a show car though, doubt he show up to a track event.


You guys have fun playing "My e-penis is bigger than yours, I have a faster drag car".

[Philip81193]

Your e-penises can't touch this-
http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125974
1969 Trans Am that will be worth more ten years from now than either of your cars. Add in a small block V8 with twin turbos at 21 PSI and you win epicly. This guy daily drives his 8 second street car.
Edit: His video and pics don't work in that thread, but I saw them a few months ago when they were posted. They're legit.

[E36 Phantom]

How did this thread get to this point? I'm so confused.

Why can't we talk about the merits of cars without insulting each other?

[dinanm3atl]

Cool?

roflmao

[Progress]

I'm getting an M tech M type bumper and M side skirts. I'm also putting in a full M3 interior. I don't want to be one of those guys that passes of my 325is as an M. I'm thinking about putting my 325is badge back on or even getting a custom plate "NOTANM3". My question is why the f!ck do people put M badges on non M cars? If a stock 325 with an M badge pulls up to a real M3, they're gonna get burnt. And if the 325 is supercharged with 436hp to the wheels, wouldn't having a 325 badge give them more pride burning an M3?

Okay i am a little late,
Enable /rant

Listen up, First off, This is a bmw board. If i wanted to listen about you brag how fast your little honda was, I would go to a jdm board and stroke my E-peen while looking at a giant spoiler.

Second, You putting a plate on your car saying "NOTANM3" Your just as bad as the kid who put's a m3 badge on his car in my book. Also honestly, Who the F*** cares if some one puts a m3 badge on there 325, I honestly can tell you the truth that i don't give a flying F***, Its there car they can do what they want, Who are you to say you can't do that.

I have 2 cars. A 97 m3, Which is my Daily Driver. I also have 98 328is, That has a complete m3 swap in it and a AA Supercharger. The point is, Even if they badged the car m3, I will beat them so who cares. Yes its a Mposter But honestly is does not matter. Take pride in your own car and don't worry about others.

You don't make the laws about who can do what. So next time you decide to make a thread about pointless crap that does nothing but take up space. Go over to the JDM Board i am sure you will fit right in.

[HyphE36]

MPOSTER is actually a pretty good plate for a 3 with M looks :thumbup:

and WHOA!!! this thread got beasted by beef! hahaha too funny, my fav quote comes from cuah's initial response, but I won't repeat it just "cuhs"

and on the thread topic, I think its lame to put an M badge on a non M car with no or insufficient M tech parts. Cars do belong to individuals however, as do decisions, so it can't really be a general consensus that decides this debate. Personally, i'm not sure what I'll want to do when all finished moding my car, debadge and leave the BMW emblem and the IS, or badge it M325IS, or just leave it as is and go for soooooome sort of sleeper effect, even tho it'll be way to obvious...

Also, to those of you that look at dropping loads of money into a non M 3 series as a waste because you could have bought an M with that money should probably consider that anyone who willingly drops 5,6,7-10 K on a 3 series knows (or SHOULD know) they could have bought, or had a large bag of money for, an M. These people have specific reasons behind their decisions, ie. want to mod a non M to beat an M and have a lot of fun in the process (my reason). ALSO, these people more than likely won't be the retards running around with Mposter badges (love that plate idea...DON'T TAKE IT! ;) )

[Progress]

MPOSTER is actually a pretty good plate for a 3 with M looks :thumbup:

and WHOA!!! this thread got beasted by beef! hahaha too funny, my fav quote comes from cuah's initial response, but I won't repeat it just "cuhs"

and on the thread topic, I think its lame to put an M badge on a non M car with no or insufficient M tech parts. Cars do belong to individuals however, as do decisions, so it can't really be a general consensus that decides this debate. Personally, i'm not sure what I'll want to do when all finished moding my car, debadge and leave the BMW emblem and the IS, or badge it M325IS, or just leave it as is and go for soooooome sort of sleeper effect, even tho it'll be way to obvious...

Also, to those of you that look at dropping loads of money into a non M 3 series as a waste because you could have bought an M with that money should probably consider that anyone who willingly drops 5,6,7-10 K on a 3 series knows (or SHOULD know) they could have bought, or had a large bag of money for, an M. These people have specific reasons behind their decisions, ie. want to mod a non M to beat an M and have a lot of fun in the process (my reason). ALSO, these people more than likely won't be the retards running around with Mposter badges (love that plate idea...DON'T TAKE IT! ;) )


Coming from a guy who has, Mac Dre under his name. Yah. I read about the first 3 words and thought it would just be a waste of my time.

[Philip81193]

Progress, is your car the black one in your sig? Also, do you know who owns the white car? It looks amazing!

[HyphE36]

Coming from a guy who has, Mac Dre under his name. Yah. I read about the first 3 words and thought it would just be a waste of my time.

Coming from a guy who was on my friends list here on the fest, hmm. Oh, and you never know what a little respect for the dead will bring your way, try it sometime.

I have to give it to you tho, you are honest, the truth lays directly underneath your name...

-1 on the auto-censor, I'm sure its steering your thoughts and logic on life; looking at the entirety of things is a good cure to not knowing ****...

[wheel-man]

It's called M-VEY.

[HyphE36]

hahahaha +1

another great non M plate :thumbup:

[Progress]

Coming from a guy who was on my friends list here on the fest, hmm. Oh, and you never know what a little respect for the dead will bring your way, try it sometime.

I have to give it to you tho, you are honest, the truth lays directly underneath your name...

-1 on the auto-censor, I'm sure its steering your thoughts and logic on life; looking at the entirety of things is a good cure to not knowing ****...

You should know better then to take what i say latterly some days, Everyone knows this as for i get stressed from owning and maintaining a local performance shop in Portland. Your better off just ignoring what i say when i say it some days. By tomorrow i will have forgot what i have said and move on.

[HyphE36]

Ah my bad man, I reckon I should've considered that, as I can relate to work stress heavily -_- (probably why I replied so harsh... no hard feelings I hope:) )

[Mr AAPL]

This car will whup you.
http://www.timeattackforums.com/forums/private-sale/962-fs-ls2-350z.html

that's a pretty sweet looking Z, I don't really care for the blue trim around the gauges or the door panel speaker but maybe it's appreciated more in person.

I too have seen the M badging on a non-M car. I think Mercedes does the same thing they have AMG badges on non AMG cars although they do have some parts (body parts, interior pieces, maybe suspension too) except the engine and what not that they share with their AMG brethren . Kinda like the 330i ZHP, an M car without the engine (or insurance for that matter), goddamn do I love that car, I want one badly, can't afford it quite yet.

Anyways to each his/her own.

[BombSquad91]

I never liked the blue trim either. But when it's photographed it looks almost identical to the project MU brakes. It's a really fun car to drive too. You never quite get used to driving a Jap car and hearing an American V8. I posted it though to "bring us all together":grouphug:
Japanese car + American V8 = UNITY:thumbup:

[TUBBMW]

What gets me is that the culprits that do put the ///M badge on a 318/323/325/328 9 times out of 10 also dump TONS of money on all the M Technic aesthetics, performance upgrades, etc.

Soooooooo why not just get a f***ing ///M3?!?

And while still forking out the money for routine/preventative maintenance on your newly souped-up false-///M, you could have bought several stock ///M3's and been set from the get go. I don't get it.

I enjoy my car for what it is, nothing less, nothing more. If I was in the market to get something that smokes life and hauls ass on a daily basis, I would have purchased an ///M. My 318 is underpowered, sure, but it's an economical 4-banger that has trademark BMW styling/handling and I got it for a steal. Why make your car into something it's not?

...as long as I can still smoke riced-out Civics with absolutely ridiculous body kits and aluminum-ladder spoilers. That's really all that matters ;)

I couldn't agree more:). I saw a 1992 Toyota Tercel with a BMW emblems on the trunk and hood plus one on each side. Anyway, we thought it was pretty funny (you bet we had a good laugh at it:rofl:)...until I found this site (http://www.jimmy540i.com/bmwnightmare.htm). Enjoy!;)

[MikeLogan]

I'd de-badge all together and keep people wondering..

[N:CR41G]

Perfect example...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1998-BMW-318IS-E36-Sport-Black-4sp-A-Coupe_W0QQitemZ170306914951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_C ars?hash=item170306914951&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

...Just shameful!

[dinanm3atl]

Besides that auto that is a pretty cool car. RHD, analog clock, MTech parts, the cloth sport seats are hot!

Wheels are terrible... I would drive it.

[N:CR41G]

Besides that auto that is a pretty cool car. RHD, analog clock, MTech parts, the cloth sport seats are hot!

Wheels are terrible... I would drive it.

Yeah I would, but the first thing I'd do is take that M3 badge off...

[jasonf860]

That car is pretty hot. Loving the interior. The wheels are pretty bad but not as bad as some I've seem right on this very forum. It's in dire need of an engine swap though...:fingers:

[bimmerblack]

FYI guys (and gals) 318ti's in Europe and Australia came factory with M technic packages and ///M badges. The US is the only retarded place that got de-tuned cars and not all the options. Some of these ///M package cars even made delivery in Canada! That being said, there is nothing wrong with ///M badges, in fact, many, many BMW's came with ///M badges that were not M3's,M5's, etc. All that means is it has M-technic add ons. The real issue is having ///M3 badges on a non-M car. As long as your not pretending to be one, then what's the issue?

My car has about as much ///M in it as any M3 out there and will smoke any stock M3 there is. I also paid a lot less than an M3 in the same condition and pay less for insurance and taxes. I say that's a win-win situation for me.

And for the record, My car is debadged, has the ///M insignia on the side moldings, (they are an M-technic retrofit afterall) and I have M3 door sills just cause they are much better than the non-M ones.

I drive a three one eight. I have OE M technic mouldings. They have the "M" badge. I'm not passing it off as an M-three. I'm surprised this thread has this many postings as there are at least half dozen threads similar to this already.

[N:CR41G]

I drive a three one eight. I have OE M technic mouldings. They have the "M" badge. I'm not passing it off as an M-three. I'm surprised this thread has this many postings as there are at least half dozen threads similar to this already.

...There should be an "Anti-M3 badge for non-M3s" forum....

...Just out of interest, is there any1 that has an M3 badge on their non M3 car?

...I wonder how many people will own up... Either own up or TAKE IT OFF!! /Buy an M3 & stop being a wannabe! :D

[jackrules]

No one's gonna own up,

I drive a 328i and I have a nice chrome 328i badge on it.


If your gonna take off the 318i badge and put on an M badge, you might as well take that blue and white BMW badge off and put on a Rolls badge.

[N:CR41G]

No one's gonna own up,

I drive a 328i and I have a nice chrome 328i badge on it.


If your gonna take off the 318i badge and put on an M badge, you might as well take that blue and white BMW badge off and put on a Rolls badge.

+1

:rofl:

I didnt expect anyone to own up... But I hope they are currently taking them off!!

[jasonf860]

...There should be an "Anti-M3 badge for non-M3s" forum....

...Just out of interest, is there any1 that has an M3 badge on their non M3 car?

...I wonder how many people will own up... Either own up or TAKE IT OFF!! /Buy an M3 & stop being a wannabe! :D


As already stated in this thread, I have multiple ///M badges on my car, on the side moldings, stripes on my seats, my shift knob,gauge cluster, and tri color stitching on my steering wheel. I also have ///M3 door sills mostly because they are much nicer than the stock 325i ones.

That being said, The only thing non-M on/in my car is the damn shell so who's going to say it's not worthy of an M badge?

[DNRC]

...That being said, The only thing non-M on/in my car is the damn shell so who's going to say it's not worthy of an M badge?

Halston

[jason_recliner]

Perfect example...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1998-BMW-318IS-E36-Sport-Black-4sp-A-Coupe_W0QQitemZ170306914951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_C ars?hash=item170306914951&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

...Just shameful!

How embarrassing it would be if one were to ever be seen in it with the engine running.
Yes, yukky wheels. I am finally qualified to express that now.

[PhilipWOT]

You guys have fun playing "My e-penis is bigger than yours, I have a faster drag car".

My penis's e-penis is bigger than your actual penis, Halston.

:bustingup

[jackrules]

As already stated in this thread, I have multiple ///M badges on my car, on the side moldings, stripes on my seats, my shift knob,gauge cluster, and tri color stitching on my steering wheel. I also have ///M3 door sills mostly because they are much nicer than the stock 325i ones.

That being said, The only thing non-M on/in my car is the damn shell so who's going to say it's not worthy of an M badge?


It's not worthy because it didn't roll off the assembly line as an M, oh and maybe because you don't have a friken M engine or Suspension. Maybe because you were cheap and paid for a 325i when you wish you had an M.


It's like my friend saying he drives a porsche because a lot of parts ON HIS VW are made by porsche, but, guess what it rolled out of a VW plant, not a Porsche plant.

:drive:

[Mr AAPL]

yea it's kinda like a chick that used to be a dude. We should start a poll asking if it's okay to rock an "M" badge or "M" license plate frame if your rockin an M-Tech kit it just can't have a 3 at the end.

[Jim Spence]

Will this thread never die???

Who CARES what someone else does to their own car. It ain't your car. You didn't pay for it. Sure, you're entitled to your opinion, but to constantly rant about someone putting something you don't like on their own car is worse than childish. A simple, "I don't like that" will suffice.

I think a few posters here hit the nail on the head; apparently some people continue to bash others in an attempt to make up for some "shortcoming" of their own.

It's no wonder that people look at BMW owners as pretentious assholes.

[E36 Phantom]

It's not worthy because it didn't roll off the assembly line as an M, oh and maybe because you don't have a friken M engine or Suspension. Maybe because you were cheap and paid for a 325i when you wish you had an M.
Uhm, no. Jason's car is mechanically identical to an ///M3, just a 325is platform. Everything an ///M3 has his has. Same thing with Amber (bimmerbarbie). That said, neither of them have an ///M3 VIN so I don't support putting an ///M3 badge. An ///M badge is fine, and thins like door sills and everything else is fine, just as long as the trunk says 32xis, do what you want.
yea it's kinda like a chick that used to be a dude. We should start a poll asking if it's okay to rock an "M" badge or "M" license plate frame if your rockin an M-Tech kit it just can't have a 3 at the end.

It is. /poll.

[Kzang]

So what should I do?
Put my 325is badge back on? :dunno:
Custom plate "NOTANM3"? :thumbup:
Custom plate "325IS" or "MY325IS"?:dunno:

Why are you asking what you should do, like your asking for an approval or something from the BMW community? I wonder if the majority here says it's ok to put on the M badge on a non M car and would you happily stick the decal on?

Why not do whatever you feel like doing to your own car and say FU to others that critisize?

PS: if you had a NOTANM3 plate then people ( that knows what a M car is ) would still point and laugh at you and your car :)

[BombSquad91]

As already stated in this thread, I have multiple ///M badges on my car, on the side moldings, stripes on my seats, my shift knob,gauge cluster, and tri color stitching on my steering wheel. I also have ///M3 door sills mostly because they are much nicer than the stock 325i ones.

That being said, The only thing non-M on/in my car is the damn shell so who's going to say it's not worthy of an M badge?

Your car is NOT worthy of an M badge. You have body M stuff. How could you say the only non M thing on ur car is the shell? How about the motor? Do you have a stock M X brace? How about ur rear end? Suspension? Hmmmmm...... I guess there's more non M stuff on ur car than the shell.:thumbup:

[BombSquad91]

It's like my friend saying he drives a porsche because a lot of parts ON HIS VW are made by porsche, but, guess what it rolled out of a VW plant, not a Porsche plant.

:drive:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[N:CR41G]

It's not worthy because it didn't roll off the assembly line as an M, oh and maybe because you don't have a friken M engine or Suspension. Maybe because you were cheap and paid for a 325i when you wish you had an M.


It's like my friend saying he drives a porsche because a lot of parts ON HIS VW are made by porsche, but, guess what it rolled out of a VW plant, not a Porsche plant.

:drive:

+10

Even if you bought every single part off an M3 including the engine, its still not an M3...

...an M3 is... an M3... There are no 2 ways about it...

At the end of the day, you are the silly looking ones!

Just be proud of what you drive!

Its like ricers put big exhausts and wings on their car to make it faster!
-It doesnt make it faster, and your M3 badge, bits and bobs, does not make your car faster, nor does it make it an M3...

... But your choice!

[Philip81193]

Uhm, no. Jason's car is mechanically identical to an ///M3, just a 325is platform. Everything an ///M3 has his has. Same thing with Amber (bimmerbarbie). That said, neither of them have an ///M3 VIN so I don't support putting an ///M3 badge. An ///M badge is fine, and thins like door sills and everything else is fine, just as long as the trunk says 32xis, do what you want.


It is. /poll.

I am determined to catch every grammatical mistake that you make. Consider that your warning. I saw another one in the off topic section but I wasn't logged in and didn't think it was worth it. :p Regardless, ///M badges are fine for cars that have ///M equipment, but ///M3 badges are not acceptable(in MY opinion) ever, unless you own an ///M3.

[Pirate_copy]

I swear on my life that i saw an AA van with an ///M badge on it yesterday

[v33_n0d3]

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e60/NitRoDrivEn9121/untitled1.jpg

[BombSquad91]

So the consensus is: M3 badge only on cars that are M3 from factory. ///M badges on any other 3 series that has M parts.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[E36 Phantom]

I am determined to catch every grammatical mistake that you make. Consider that your warning. I saw another one in the off topic section but I wasn't logged in and didn't think it was worth it. :p
That's a simple typo, happens to all of us. Not a stupid switch like there/they're/their, brakes/breaks, loose/lose, etc.

:flipoff:
So the consensus is: M3 badge only on cars that are M3 from factory. ///M badges on any other 3 series that has M parts.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Not just "any 3 series with M parts." Only if you have significant M3 parts, like an engine swap or similar.

[BombSquad91]

What about M-Tech bumpers? People with those can put an ///M badge on.

[Ryawee]

I saw a blue convertible e36 in front of me today with an m3 badge... didn't have any other ///M parts... just the badge... and an ///M license plate frame (that alone adds at least 10HP)
I just don't see the point. you're really not even fooling anyone.

[ffej]

This is what I think about it. It's akin to someone wearing a team jersey. You're not fooling anyone into thinking that you're LeBron James walking down the street.

Those 3 series cars are just ///M car fans and want to show their support :)

[Jim Spence]

So the consensus is: ...

"Consensus" can kiss my ass. I paid for my car, I can do whatever the hell I want to it.

No, I wouldn't put any of the M markings on my car, but if I wanted to it's my business.

[BombSquad91]

This is what I think about it. It's akin to someone wearing a team jersey. You're not fooling anyone into thinking that you're LeBron James walking down the street.

Those 3 series cars are just ///M car fans and want to show their support :)

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[BombSquad91]

"Consensus" can kiss my ass. I paid for my car, I can do whatever the hell I want to it.

No, I wouldn't put any of the M markings on my car, but if I wanted to it's my business.

Yes. Anyone can do whatever they want.:thumbup:
We're not telling anyone what to do.:thumbdwn:
We're just voicing our opinions.:angel:

[bimmerbarbie]

I really thought this thread would've died by now. But, alas, no. Continue kicking it into oblivion.

[bimmerblack]

This is what I think about it. It's akin to someone wearing a team jersey. You're not fooling anyone into thinking that you're LeBron James walking down the street.

Those 3 series cars are just ///M car fans and want to show their support :)

:thumbup::thumbup: this makes sense.

[bimmerblack]

I really thought this thread would've died by now. But, alas, no. Continue kicking it into oblivion.

:thumbup::thumbup:this also makes sense.

[E36 Phantom]

*kick*

[BombSquad91]

Don't you realize by now that my threads go the distance?

[bimmerbarbie]

They only "go the distance" because:

1) You post about projects that you refuse to finish.

2) If you notice, the original question is very rarely answered. More like an OT playground.

3) People like to rice bash.



:D

[E36 Phantom]

*kick*

[bimmerbarbie]

4) Chad likes to kick things.

[BombSquad91]

And?

[bimmerbarbie]

And what? :confused:

[BombSquad91]

And?

EDIT: Thank you captain obvious!
EDIT#2: So what.

[bimmerbarbie]

..... was there a question or point anywhere in all of that?

[BombSquad91]

All of what?

[bimmerbarbie]

You can't read, can you?

[BombSquad91]

No. Why do you ask?