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mrjones
03-20-2009, 02:14 PM
I'm relatively new to detailing, as such, I would appreciate any advice on my case, thanks to all in advance.

car is 335 black sapphire, 1 yr old, no swirls etc, washed, clayed, klasse aio, 2x klasse sg, ps21s from 1st recieved from dealer and all through out the previous year.

I keep the car in the garage when not drivin so paint/surface is in good shape.

Just now completed springtime , wash , clay, IPA/water wipedown, klasse aio, 1x klasse sg.

For next step/coat i would like to perhaps find something other than klasse sg again, when i apply it (yes very thin) it still tends not to buff off easily, i need to work it somewhat to get it to look clear, it tends to leave a little ghosting/residue type look if you look at it at a very shallow grazing angle under bright light, have worked it more and/or QD after to clear problem spots up.

What alternative can i use for 3rd sealant coat at this stage, i was thinking of using Meg NXT 2.0 liguid since this is easily/locally availble but i am not sure if it has any cleaners in it that would strip some of the already apply Klasse SG. I believe the NXT is polymer based so i quess it would be compatible. Is it easier to wipe on and wipe off ?

Or should i just wait a few days and order something off the net that would work better than the NXT (which of course i can get now).

Tradeoff is using NXT now and driving car soon , or order from NET and waiting while continueing to keep car in garage w/ cover on to maintain my current good surface/prep.

Eventually i would like to try to find something that would buff easier than Klasse SG.

Any advice/thoughts is appreciated, thanks.

ZeroDfx
03-20-2009, 02:59 PM
I have also had difficulty buffing KSG no matter how little i think I am using.
A couple that are easier to use are Menzerna FMJ which goes on/off like a breeze. I also like Blackfire for both ease of use and protection/look. And I recently used Poorboys EX which I will be using again within the next week as i do my springtime routine.

If you are in a hurry, you might go to a Napa Autoparts store and pick up some Duragloss OTC; it is also very good and readily available and reasonably priced; what more could you ask for? :)

Good luck,
Nick

Johnz3mc
03-21-2009, 08:20 PM
A couple of tricks for working with SG guys, and I forgot to mention this in the PM Victor,

If you put it on too thick or wait too long for it to setup, it sets up like concrete it seems. To buff it off, breathe on it then buff. That little bit of extra moisture from your breath helps remove it.
I can do this only so many times, then I deprive my lungs of O2 and I collapse onto the ground. I find the only way I can restore my energy is to breathe very deeply and very slowly and hold a cold beer in my right hand. This technique restores me rather rapidly actually.

The other way to get a bit of moisture onto the really dry SG is to keep a little mister bottle in your shirt pocket. Not a spray bottle, a misting bottle. Just a little mist of (distilled?) water and it'll come off much easier.

The other technique is to not let it harden at all. Apply it thin with an applicator, then buff it off immediately. Keep buffing and turn the folded microfiber until the area shines. Only then do you move onto the next area. I've done all methods, harden then buff, harden then buff and breathe, harden, then buff with a mist, no harden and buff.
I couldn't tell any differences in the looks or protection with any of the techniques. The only difference was the harden and buff really was frustrating and used a lot of energy.
I'm not making this stuff up, it's all real!!!

-John C.