ls1 ls2?

[sexye36]

i have a 93 325is and i was wondering if i could drop a ls1 or ls2 in it? and if i can what would i have to change to put the engine in?

[synenergy52]

wut


if you have to ask:

you shouldn't know, or;
you don't want to know ($$$)

but if you MUST know, anything is possible if you have the cash. cliche, but true.

besides, why would you want to defile the bavarian brotherhood?

[Nline6]

No no no no no, there was just a thread created by you about the same thing, I swear this was already covered, yes you can, and yes it cost upwards of 10,000 to do it right. you bought the wrong car if you want a street racing maching or a drag car. should have bought a muscle car or something.

[Chris 89]

I agree strongly..
I seen this on a japanese drift show a chap had an e36 with ls1.. I don't get it why would you bother!!!!
A car its only itself wile it still has an engine made by the same company.
When i think about bmw 1st thing coming into my mind its the engine and then the way they perform and handle.. I know they all break down and stuff but the are so much better then others and can handle alot more.
Even if i had the money and all..... Would rather get a bigger bmw with a bigger engine or m3..
I understand to put in a supercharger or turbo that's ok but not some japaneese or american engines, like the chap on youtube that got the black e46 1000Hp with chevy engine in it.

[e36mike]

i think it would be sick. american muscle + bmw everything amazing. would be dope. also would be a sleeper/shocker. cuz people would be thinking what your thinking when you race them "oh its a bmw its slow for drag racing" then boom you sh*t on them.

the kit is 4000-5000 from vorschlag i believe. then you need the motor which is like the same price for a brand new one. but you could probably find it cheaper via crashed cars etc.

[Theo podges]

NO, NO, NO!!! Changing a BMW's engine with ANYTHING else than a BMW's engine must become a punishable crime with at least a life sentence!

[e36mike]

NO, NO, NO!!! Changing a BMW's engine with ANYTHING else than a BMW's engine must become a punishable crime with at least a life sentence!

i disagree. the minute you decide to swap a different manufacturer's engine in your car, you know longer look at it the same. its no longer just a BMW. its now your own car. you are creatin something new, kinda like a kit car.

id like to take anyone who hates the idea of this swap and have them drive a 3 series with an ls1.

[russian318is]

v8 in anything is better

[Philip81193]

v8 in anything is better

Wrong.
http://www.bmwcoop.com/wp-content/images/2009/01/bmw-m5.jpg

[E36youngster]

well since you're other thread obviously didnt help, click here:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=BMW+E36+LS1+swap

[drivinfaster]

waitaminit.....anyone else think this is superalex???:rolleyes:


df

[Mr AAPL]

Wrong.
http://www.bmwcoop.com/wp-content/images/2009/01/bmw-m5.jpg

an M5 V10 would be siiiccck in an E36.

[E36youngster]

waitaminit.....anyone else think this is superalex???:rolleyes:


df

oh snap!!

[russelljb]

Wrong.
http://www.bmwcoop.com/wp-content/images/2009/01/bmw-m5.jpg

HAHAHA great call!

[e30e]

LS1/LS2 engine in the e36 is a great combo, but you better have $$$ or skills. Either way its not easy. Do it, screw what everyone else thinks, its an e36. Not like its an e30 m3 or something special.

[Chad...]

LS1/LS2 engine in the e36 is a great combo, but you better have $$$ or skills. Either way its not easy. Do it, screw what everyone else thinks, its an e36. Not like its an e30 m3 or something special.

That's the truth man, its your car, do what you want. Unlike most BMW drivers, I could honestly care less who makes the car or the engine or anything, I just want a car that looks good, performs well, and doesn't break all the damn time. However I will say I wouldn't swap out an M car's engine. And all that crap about the LS1 throws off the balance of the car, that's just ignorant, the E36 chassis is way too good for the power the car makes especially non M cars, and the weight distribution issue? Uhh an aluminum SB weighs less than any iron M50.

I don't understand what the hype about the LS1 is though. All chevy small blocks are pretty much the same. I like to do everything as cheaply as possible but not ****ty, however you still need fuel injection to pass emission. If it were me, I'd go with one of the modern 5.3 out of the 2001ish silverado, those engines can be had for $500 easy, $1,000 for an aluminum one though, put about $2,000 in it, and you have 400-500 hp, and a 7100 rpm redline, no lie. Obviously that engine setup would be the cheapest part of the build, you still need a T56 transmission which is about $2K and your planning on paying to have all this done at a shop, and that's going to be about $25,000.

With all that said, I'll go back to what I said at the beginning, all I want is a car that looks good, performs well, and doesn't break down all the damn time, so if it were me, I'd buy a C5 Corvette Z06.

[Mr AAPL]

I like to do everything as cheaply as possible but not ****ty, however you still need fuel injection to pass emission. If it were me, I'd go with one of the modern 5.3 out of the 2001ish silverado

I don't think you can put a truck engine in a car and have it pass emissions at least not here in California

[ZeGerman]

I don't think you can put a truck engine in a car and have it pass emissions at least not here in California

That would be totally absurd if it were true. GM truck engines are all based off the LS-series. Hmmm.

[ZeGerman]

I've been thinking about this idea for a while. I know that many of you think this is the worst bastardization of a car ever witnessed on this planet, but for a track enthusiast looking to go faster, it's pretty economical. The concerns of weight distribution are moot. An iron block Ford 302 (5.0L) with aluminum heads and all accessories weighs less than 425lbs. By contrast, a M52B28 weighs about 400lbs. I'm pretty sure an all aluminum LS1/2/3/6/7 would weigh less and sit further behind the front wheels than a long I6 block. Having less than 25 extra pounds (if the case of the Ford 5.0L) that reside further back toward the center of the car won't change handling dynamics in any discernible way. This is point when the statement "you bought the wrong car if you want a street racing machine or a drag car" is rendered useless. Plus, you could build (and install) a 400hp/400ftlb Ford 5.0L for next to nothing and it would be perfectly usable as a daily driver with no reliability issues to speak of. I have been lead to believe that similar power figures from a TC'd or SC'd M52 would be difficult to achieve while preserving reliability. 400hp out of a 5.0L or LS engine easier than you can possibly imagine. I'm not saying that installing an LS motor & T56 trans is easy, but I am saying it's easy to do with a Ford 5.0L and T5.

On the point of reliability, I'm also going to risk being flamed and say that the GM LS engines (and even the Ford 5.0L) are, generally speaking, more reliable than BMW motors. Tuning capabilities with either GM LS or Ford 5.0L are limitless, and they are utterly bulletproof. If I had unlimited money and definitely wanted to do a V8 swap, I'd go with an LS motor. That said, LS conversions are still ridiculously expensive. Ford 5.0L conversions, however, are CHEAP! These motors practically grown on trees.

Check it out! http://e36v8.com/index.html

[Philip81193]

While LS series engines are great, for the money it would cost to swap one in you could be making power upwards of 500 horsepower. Check over in the forced induction section on bimmerforums, you can build a reliable 400 horsepower for about $5k.

[ZeGerman]

While LS series engines are great, for the money it would cost to swap one in you could be making power upwards of 500 horsepower. Check over in the forced induction section on bimmerforums, you can build a reliable 400 horsepower for about $5k.

Yeah, but if one was savvy, I bet you could do a 5.0L swap for $2-3K and be making 400hp in no time. Unlike the LS series swaps, the 5.0L uses stock mustang headers and oil pan, and reuses the stock E36 radiator, and exhaust (somehow). I'm not totally sure, but I I also feel like the T5 doesn't have the same clearance issues as the T56.

It's definitely fun to throw these ideas around, however.:)

Here's a clip of someone who did the 5.0L swap in an E36. He went the route of using a carburetor instead of EFI, but I don't think getting EFI to work properly would be much of an issue. Watch it to the end to hear how gnarly it sounds from the tailpipes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2IuE2T93Ew