6er price high??

[jo59]

I was curious why the 650i's price is so much higher (~15k) than the 550i when the 550 has very similar specs and has two extra doors?

Thanks:thumbup:

[BlaZinMJ3]

its WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more rare. and its also considered a luxury sport coupe.

[jo59]

Why does being a "luxury sport coupe" raise the price??

Thanks for the input though;)

[name here]

Based on your question I would buy a 550 if I were you.

[Blue Bimmer]

... 6ers are more than a 7er also.. the "pinacle of luxury" j/k

[nauticalx]

Why does being a "luxury sport coupe" raise the price??

Thanks for the input though;)

Are you serious??

[jo59]

Are you serious??

Yea, sorry if it is a newb question, but i still dont understand why the price is soooo much higher just because it is a coupe body:dunno:

[ky2970]

based on your question i would buy a 550 if i were you.

+1

[ky2970]

Yea, sorry if it is a newb question, but i still dont understand why the price is soooo much higher just because it is a coupe body:dunno:

:eeps:

[AB]

its WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY more rare. and its also considered a luxury sport coupe.

:rofl:

[BlaZinMJ3]

:rofl:
:dunno: all i know is that fred smoot, the safety for the washington redskins, who lives down the street from my rents has 1 in his stable along with a rolls royce, range rover, and an old ass camaro ss. enough for me to make it a dream car of mine lol. you cant put a price on a car that breaks necks left and right lol

[OnlySkills]

ahah, blazin makes me laugh......anyways,

you're comparing a sports coupe to a mid-size luxury sedan. 2 extra doors don't make the car's price go up. ever think about what's on the inside rather than what you see on the outside?
the parts inside the car could cost more than the 550i. the fenders/body plates could cost more. the interior options could cost more. the 650i accelerates faster than the 550i. 650i at 4.8 secs....550i at 5.1 secs.
the 650's seats are more expensive than the 550i's. much more.....

[dimitri]

WHo knows ..but the 6ers are nice cars

[ky2970]

ahah, blazin makes me laugh......anyways,

you're comparing a sports coupe to a mid-size luxury sedan. 2 extra doors don't make the car's price go up. ever think about what's on the inside rather than what you see on the outside?
the parts inside the car could cost more than the 550i. the fenders/body plates could cost more. the interior options could cost more. the 650i accelerates faster than the 550i. 650i at 4.8 secs....550i at 5.1 secs.
the 650's seats are more expensive than the 550i's. much more.....

What the heck? The 650 doesn't go 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. It's just the fact that it's a 6er that makes the price go up. :D

[BlaZinMJ3]

breaking necks on the road is enough for me to accept the big ass price tag lol

[Last Emperor]

the 6er is NOT a 5 series coupe!

[sdbrandon]

I was curious why the 650i's price is so much higher (~15k) than the 550i when the 550 has very similar specs and has two extra doors?

Thanks:thumbup:

Although some may disagree. Having owned a 5, 6 and 7 series, I can tell you plain and simple that the 6 series is a 5 series coupe.

BMW made slight changes to parts so they could say the 6 was all new. However, it is 99% a 5 series with 5 series technology.

As a matter of fact, the 5 series has more options available than the 6 series. And for the record the 5 has nicer seats available.

Speed wise they are both the same. Any point .02233 blah blah difference is noise and nonsense.

The 6 should be about $5k over the 5's price. But BMW knows folks will pay more just because, and so they can make less 6 series and charge a lot more and come out the same.

The 5 is a much better deal. I would consider a 6 only if you want a vert/2 seater since the 6's backseat is worthless and has less room than a 3 series coupe.

Another advantage to the 5 is you can get the 535 power plant. BMW won't sell the 630/635D here because of marketing. They want to keep the illusion of a big expensive luxury coupe since they no longer have the flagship 8 series and the CS was cancelled.

It all comes down to U.S. marketing. Do you think the label queen American buyers would buy a BMW if they new they were used as taxi cabs in Germany?

Finally let me just say this. There is a ton of profit in a 6 series. That is why the typical 3 year leases that were $1,000-$1300 per month, were down to $799+tax to close out 08 models. That is why an M6 vert with a sticker of $113k was discounted to $95k just to move them.

The 6 is a wonderful car, but it ain't all that. I like coupes but you pay a premium for them. If you are looking for a 6, consider one around 2 years old. They usually lose 30-40% of their value the first two years.

[coutts18]

PLease....look at the 6 and the 5....you tell me which one is stunning. It always cost more to have the pretty one :)

[SmoothCruise]

Although some may disagree. Having owned a 5, 6 and 7 series, I can tell you plain and simple that the 6 series is a 5 series coupe.

BMW made slight changes to parts so they could say the 6 was all new. However, it is 99% a 5 series with 5 series technology.

As a matter of fact, the 5 series has more options available than the 6 series. And for the record the 5 has nicer seats available.

Speed wise they are both the same. Any point .02233 blah blah difference is noise and nonsense.

The 6 should be about $5k over the 5's price. But BMW knows folks will pay more just because, and so they can make less 6 series and charge a lot more and come out the same.

The 5 is a much better deal. I would consider a 6 only if you want a vert/2 seater since the 6's backseat is worthless and has less room than a 3 series coupe.

Another advantage to the 5 is you can get the 535 power plant. BMW won't sell the 630/635D here because of marketing. They want to keep the illusion of a big expensive luxury coupe since they no longer have the flagship 8 series and the CS was cancelled.

It all comes down to U.S. marketing. Do you think the label queen American buyers would buy a BMW if they new they were used as taxi cabs in Germany?

Finally let me just say this. There is a ton of profit in a 6 series. That is why the typical 3 year leases that were $1,000-$1300 per month, were down to $799+tax to close out 08 models. That is why an M6 vert with a sticker of $113k was discounted to $95k just to move them.

The 6 is a wonderful car, but it ain't all that. I like coupes but you pay a premium for them. If you are looking for a 6, consider one around 2 years old. They usually lose 30-40% of their value the first two years.

Finally a post that makes sense.

[nauticalx]

I think there is a misconception among some who posted in this forum that vehicles should or must be priced in relation to the cost to the manufacturer. That's not the case. Vehicles are priced in accordance with the class and competition. Just because a 6er shares frame and mechanics with a 5er doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be priced in relation to its fellow luxury coupe/verts from Benz, Jag, etc. If that were the case, an Escalade would be closely priced higher than a Yukon. It has always been the case that luxury cars earn manufacturers more profit than economy cars. The same can be and certainly is true between various models within a carmaker's lineup.

[jo59]

Although some may disagree. Having owned a 5, 6 and 7 series, I can tell you plain and simple that the 6 series is a 5 series coupe.

BMW made slight changes to parts so they could say the 6 was all new. However, it is 99% a 5 series with 5 series technology.

As a matter of fact, the 5 series has more options available than the 6 series. And for the record the 5 has nicer seats available.

Speed wise they are both the same. Any point .02233 blah blah difference is noise and nonsense.

The 6 should be about $5k over the 5's price. But BMW knows folks will pay more just because, and so they can make less 6 series and charge a lot more and come out the same.

The 5 is a much better deal. I would consider a 6 only if you want a vert/2 seater since the 6's backseat is worthless and has less room than a 3 series coupe.

Another advantage to the 5 is you can get the 535 power plant. BMW won't sell the 630/635D here because of marketing. They want to keep the illusion of a big expensive luxury coupe since they no longer have the flagship 8 series and the CS was cancelled.

It all comes down to U.S. marketing. Do you think the label queen American buyers would buy a BMW if they new they were used as taxi cabs in Germany?

Finally let me just say this. There is a ton of profit in a 6 series. That is why the typical 3 year leases that were $1,000-$1300 per month, were down to $799+tax to close out 08 models. That is why an M6 vert with a sticker of $113k was discounted to $95k just to move them.

The 6 is a wonderful car, but it ain't all that. I like coupes but you pay a premium for them. If you are looking for a 6, consider one around 2 years old. They usually lose 30-40% of their value the first two years.

This is my reasoning exactly when i first posted

[jo59]

PLease....look at the 6 and the 5....you tell me which one is stunning. It always cost more to have the pretty one :)

Obviously the 6 is waaaaaaaaaaaaay prettier, but i don't think it justifies the price

[Leslierc]

This is my reasoning exactly when i first posted

Then get the 5 Series.

Were you then just searching for someone to agree with your reasoning, or are you seriously torn between the 5 and the 6?

I hesitated to respond to this thread because I couldn't see the point. What I mean is that what seemed to be going on was a discussion that consisted of passion versus common knowledge - passion meaning people who loved their 6s and felt the need to defend; common knowledge meaning just that (look up the 6 Series in Wikipedia).

I am a pragmatic guy regarding most things, but not so when it comes to cars; perhaps most of us here fall into this category. Cars like the 6 Series, DBS, 911, Viper, etc. aren't pragmatic, they're expressions of passion - passion for horse-power, performance, and drop dead sexiness in a car! Thus it doesn't make sense (to me) to get into any debates or discussions supporting purchase decisions along these lines. Honestly, I think "jojojo" knows this too.

Frankly, the question, why does a 6 Series cost more than a 5 Series, seems disingenuous unless the person asking knows absolutely nothing about cars. The answer is obvious. The 6 and, to a greater extent, the M6 are flagship cars for the BMW brand; meaning that they symbolize BMW's excellence in engineering and producing "ultimate driving machines".

Taking "jojojo's" question, then, to its logical solution: "Jojojo" can purchase a 5 Series car and feel good that it was a smart decision.

[BlaZinMJ3]

Then get the 5 Series.

Were you then just searching for someone to agree with your reasoning, or are you seriously torn between the 5 and the 6?

I hesitated to respond to this thread because I couldn't see the point. What I mean is that what seemed to be going on was a discussion that consisted of passion versus common knowledge - passion meaning people who loved their 6s and felt the need to defend; common knowledge meaning just that (look up the 6 Series in Wikipedia).

I am a pragmatic guy regarding most things, but not so when it comes to cars; perhaps most of us here fall into this category. Cars like the 6 Series, DBS, 911, Viper, etc. aren't pragmatic, they're expressions of passion - passion for horse-power, performance, and drop dead sexiness in a car! Thus it doesn't make sense (to me) to get into any debates or discussions supporting purchase decisions along these lines. Honestly, I think "jojojo" knows this too.

Frankly, the question, why does a 6 Series cost more than a 5 Series, seems disingenuous unless the person asking knows absolutely nothing about cars. The answer is obvious. The 6 and, to a greater extent, the M6 are flagship cars for the BMW brand; meaning that they symbolize BMW's excellence in engineering and producing "ultimate driving machines".

Taking "jojojo's" question, then, to its logical solution: "Jojojo" can purchase a 5 Series car and feel good that it was a smart decision.

couldnt agree more!

[ky2970]

the 6er is NOT a 5 series coupe!

I'm going to make this point one last time!!! Yes, the 6ers and 5ers share components, BUT THAT DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE THE SAME THING. Even if they share the same components, nothing in the world will ever make me want a 5er over a 6er (That is with fair comparison like M6 with M6, 645 with 545, etc). It's like a pair of twins, same DNA but different personalities! So essentialy I agree with "Last Emperor" but with certain limitiations. :thumbup:

[ky2970]

Then get the 5 Series.

Were you then just searching for someone to agree with your reasoning, or are you seriously torn between the 5 and the 6?

I hesitated to respond to this thread because I couldn't see the point. What I mean is that what seemed to be going on was a discussion that consisted of passion versus common knowledge - passion meaning people who loved their 6s and felt the need to defend; common knowledge meaning just that (look up the 6 Series in Wikipedia).

I am a pragmatic guy regarding most things, but not so when it comes to cars; perhaps most of us here fall into this category. Cars like the 6 Series, DBS, 911, Viper, etc. aren't pragmatic, they're expressions of passion - passion for horse-power, performance, and drop dead sexiness in a car! Thus it doesn't make sense (to me) to get into any debates or discussions supporting purchase decisions along these lines. Honestly, I think "jojojo" knows this too.

Frankly, the question, why does a 6 Series cost more than a 5 Series, seems disingenuous unless the person asking knows absolutely nothing about cars. The answer is obvious. The 6 and, to a greater extent, the M6 are flagship cars for the BMW brand; meaning that they symbolize BMW's excellence in engineering and producing "ultimate driving machines".

Taking "jojojo's" question, then, to its logical solution: "Jojojo" can purchase a 5 Series car and feel good that it was a smart decision.

Leslierc says it the best! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[OnlySkills]

What the heck? The 650 doesn't go 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. It's just the fact that it's a 6er that makes the price go up. :D

mistaken; 5.3 secs.

http://www.rsportscars.com/bmw/2008-bmw-650i-coupe/

the 650 design process takes longer than the 550.

[sdbrandon]

mistaken; 5.3 secs.

http://www.rsportscars.com/bmw/2008-bmw-650i-coupe/

the 650 design process takes longer than the 550.

The 5 is losing the Grav aluminum front end because BMW said it is too expensive to build and repair. I suspect the 6 will lose it as well. The plastic fenders will go away too. None of this stuff matters to someone cross shopping and if BMW can remove stuff without the consumer knowing to reduce costs it makes sense.

[OnlySkills]

The 5 is losing the Grav aluminum front end because BMW said it is too expensive to build and repair. I suspect the 6 will lose it as well. The plastic fenders will go away too. None of this stuff matters to someone cross shopping and if BMW can remove stuff without the consumer knowing to reduce costs it makes sense.

im sorry, plastic fenders? you are talking about the front fenders right...?

[ky2970]

Aren't the fenders aluminum?

[sdbrandon]

Aren't the fenders aluminum?

The 6 series has plastic front fenders and trunk. They have a more fancy name for it though. With the trunk lid being plastic, BMW can hide all the antennae in there without the need for the shark fin. The hood and doors are aluminum.

I think the 3 series has plastic fenders on the coupe as well. It is designed to lower the weight of the front end. By a few lbs may not matter any more if it costs more to produce compared to competitors.

[coutts18]

The perfect response to this is from Leslierc.....