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larhode
03-17-2002, 09:40 PM
What does everyone recommend as a lubricant when using the clay bar on your paint. My neighbor says he puts a few drops of dawn dishwashing liquid in water and uses that. Is it better to use Zaino z6? :)

alee
03-18-2002, 04:42 AM
No, don't use Z6. If you're using Zaino, use car wash solution with water. Put it in a little spray bottle if you have it. Otherwise, just use a sponge. Most important thing is to keep the area very wet while using clay and you'll be fine.

Don't want to use Dawn.

johnlew
03-18-2002, 05:09 AM
Where does all the junk your pulling off the surface go? Do you keep working it into the clay by hand?

alee
03-18-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by johnlew
Where does all the junk your pulling off the surface go? Do you keep working it into the clay by hand?
It goes into the clay. Then you flatten the clay, fold it over, and continue.

johnlew
03-18-2002, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by alee

It goes into the clay. Then you flatten the clay, fold it over, and continue.

That's what I thought. How do you determine when it's "full?"

alee
03-18-2002, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by johnlew
That's what I thought. How do you determine when it's "full?"
I usually pitch the clay when one of 3 things happen:

a. I drop it. At that point it's ruined.

b. When I fold it over and I see little black specs in the clay.

c. The clay has dried (even just a little).

-Al

johnlew
03-18-2002, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by alee

I usually pitch the clay when one of 3 things happen:

a. I drop it. At that point it's ruined.

b. When I fold it over and I see little black specs in the clay.

c. The clay has dried (even just a little).

-Al

Thanks.

Guest84
03-18-2002, 06:24 AM
When I clay, after washing the car once with Dawn,rinse,and again with car shampoo, rinse, I leave the rinse water from the second washing on, then I also spritz the area with "Speed Shine", which acts as a lubricant (Griots recommends this when using the claybar, however just about any Detail spray will work.) Works great. When finish, just rinse it again, no need to wash it again, the clay residue comes off easily.

johnlew
03-18-2002, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by Ripsnort
When I clay, after washing the car once with Dawn,rinse,and again with car shampoo, rinse, I leave the rinse water from the second washing on, then I also spritz the area with "Speed Shine", which acts as a lubricant (Griots recommends this when using the claybar, however just about any Detail spray will work.) Works great. When finish, just rinse it again, no need to wash it again, the clay residue comes off easily.

Do you clay the heavier stuff under the rockers and bumpers?

Guest84
03-18-2002, 06:45 AM
Well, this is the first car I've ever clayed..so my knowledge is limited, John. The first time (and only time) I did it I just clayed the large flat surfaces of the bumpers. Yes, did the rockers too, but make sure you do all the rockers and bumpers last as they will pick up more contaminants then the rest..less folding of clay if you do it in that order.

johnlew
03-18-2002, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well, this is the first car I've ever clayed..so my knowledge is limited, John. The first time (and only time) I did it I just clayed the large flat surfaces of the bumpers. Yes, did the rockers too, but make sure you do all the rockers and bumpers last as they will pick up more contaminants then the rest..less folding of clay if you do it in that order.

I'll give it a good cleaning with bug and tar remover, then a washing like you recommend, before claying. I'm having my wife order the Griots orbital kit for my Bday, clay, machine polish 1?(the least cutting), best of show wax, orange polish bonnet, red wax bonnet, speed shine. $80 bucks for all of it. I'll get the PC from Coast with the velcro pad and extra weight.

in_d_haus
03-18-2002, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by johnlew
Do you clay the heavier stuff under the rockers and bumpers?

I do the entire car myself...I wash and use bug & Tar remover on the rockers before clay.

Guest84
03-18-2002, 07:30 AM
John, Machine polish #1 is the most abrasive, I would recommend #3, the least abrasive. #1 would be for a finish that is really oxidized.

johnlew
03-18-2002, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Ripsnort
John, Machine polish #1 is the most abrasive, I would recommend #3, the least abrasive. #1 would be for a finish that is really oxidized.

My mistake, it is #3 in the Orbital Polishing Kit (http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?L1=L1_1000&L2=L2_1004&SKU=11119A)

Thanks

Clem
03-18-2002, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Ripsnort
When I clay, after washing the car once with Dawn,rinse,and again with car shampoo, rinse, I leave the rinse water from the second washing on, then I also spritz the area with "Speed Shine", which acts as a lubricant (Griots recommends this when using the claybar, however just about any Detail spray will work.) Works great. When finish, just rinse it again, no need to wash it again, the clay residue comes off easily.

Does Meguiar's Quick Detail spray fall into the same categorey? (I love the small of that stuff. It's like peaches :D)

Guest84
03-18-2002, 11:53 AM
It should....:dunno: , never used their stuff, but E36M3, Jons friend, posts here, he ought to know, I believe he's a rep for Meguiars

Nat Brown
03-20-2002, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Clem


Does Meguiar's Quick Detail spray fall into the same categorey? (I love the small of that stuff. It's like peaches :D)


That's what I use -- actually the equivalant: Final Inspection.

--gary