View Full Version : Last chance to order 2010 M5?
///M Rakete
06-08-2009, 05:43 PM
When is the scheduled end of production for the 2010 (E60) M5? I presume that the F10 M5 won't be with us until sometime in 2011 or 2012.
Thanks
BMWofBloomfield
06-08-2009, 06:47 PM
BMW hasn't mentioned when 2010 5-Series production will end. You're right about BMW not releasing new body style M's until year 2 or so.
tturedraider
06-08-2009, 08:48 PM
When is the scheduled end of production for the 2010 (E60) M5? I presume that the F10 M5 won't be with us until sometime in 2011 or 2012.
ThanksIt's generally expected that E60 production will end shortly after the beginning of 2010 and it's generally expected the introduction of the F10 will be in the spring, but it certainly could be later.
New Motors
06-09-2009, 05:18 AM
From what I have, it looks like 12/09 ALL 5's for 2010 are done. The 535xiT is 05/2010.
///M Rakete
06-09-2009, 05:55 AM
From what I have, it looks like 12/09 ALL 5's for 2010 are done. The 535xiT is 05/2010.
Thanks for the information. That was the easy part. Now comes trying to figure out what to do.
New Motors
06-09-2009, 06:06 AM
550i GT. Lease will be ugly but looks like it is coming out this year.
chrischeung
06-09-2009, 07:57 AM
From what I have, it looks like 12/09 ALL 5's for 2010 are done. The 535xiT is 05/2010.
My current lease is up 04/26/10.
I plan on placing my ED order around 10/07/09 for a 04/07/10 pickup for 535i/550i. Ideas on what they'll do? Produce the car and hold for me?
From what I have, it looks like 12/09 ALL 5's for 2010 are done. The 535xiT is 05/2010.
doubtful .. according to this it looks like the F10 will be released in Germany in the spring of 2010.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=76102
This likely implies that we (i.e. US) are looking at possibly a fall 2010 introduction. In fact I would assume they want to push out the release of the F10 to garner all the interest it can before it comes to what will still likely be a soft automotive market.
chrischeung
06-09-2009, 08:58 AM
In fact I would assume they want to push out the release of the F10 to garner all the interest it can before it comes to what will still likely be a soft automotive market.
How does that work? You don't make more money selling an old model. And all the development on the new car has been paid for.
New Motors
06-09-2009, 09:35 AM
Nothing is EVER etched in stone in the Auto industry about Production.
There are a lot of variables involved.
It's all speculation but only time will tell.
My current lease is up 04/26/10.
I plan on placing my ED order around 10/07/09 for a 04/07/10 pickup for 535i/550i. Ideas on what they'll do? Produce the car and hold for me?
In addition to that question, you might want to see what happened to 2009 5 series residuals once 2010 are available; according to the sticky above, it's 9% lower!
How does that work? You don't make more money selling an old model. And all the development on the new car has been paid for.
In soft markets ... you don't make much money period. Regardless .. we are not talking about 1 year delay .. just a few months (late spring vs. fall). .. "timing is everything". :). You want people to "anticipate" your product .. ! Furthermore, there were discussions the last time around that the E60 was "rushed" to the market a little too early. This time they may want to use the European release as a test-bed before they "finalize" the assembly line for their largest market.
Conjecture .. of course.
chrischeung
06-09-2009, 10:53 AM
You want people to "anticipate" your product .. !
Can't they do that by not pushing back the release date? BMW in the past has released "concept" cars in advance of the actual cars to do this. I still cannot see the economic benefit of delaying an introduction of a car that is ready for release.
Conversely, if you have your customers wait too long, they'll jump ship and get a competitor's car - like the new Benz E class. Sometimes folks have leases that end, or just want to change, and you're better off having your new offering out than the old.
Can't they do that by not pushing back the release date? BMW in the past has released "concept" cars in advance of the actual cars to do this. I still cannot see the economic benefit of delaying an introduction of a car that is ready for release.
Conversely, if you have your customers wait too long, they'll jump ship and get a competitor's car - like the new Benz E class. Sometimes folks have leases that end, or just want to change, and you're better off having your new offering out than the old.
Well .. "ready for release" is subjective. This is not a new flavor of ice-cream I guess to just pop into a store. You have to ensure proper ramp-up of the product and those 2-3 extra months of field testing it in Europe may prove very effective. You can also be pretty sure that new models are going to be considerably more expensive with horrible lease rates .. and with the way the economy is .. it wouldn't matter when they bring it out. Most of the folks that leased the car .. are going to be happy to turn it back and most likely won't be able to afford the new price structures anyway. The more they can keep the existing 5-series inventory moving the better (esp. when things are soft).
In fact .. the E60 looks so much better than the new Benz .. for other than the few who want to drive new AND can AFFORD it .. BMW may still win out the sales war.
All said and done .. only BMW knows where they stand financially and what is the best move for them. I'm betting a Fall '10 release.
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