2002 widescreen navigation RETROFITTED!

[alee]

Talk about a difficult installation! :mad:

Still getting everything organized here, but thought I'd throw these 2 pictures up :D

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169compare.jpg

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169retrofitted.jpg

The installation itself was maybe 15 minutes. Preparing for the installation took close to 2 hours.

Did I get anything out of it? Well, it looks nicer. :D

-Al

[Alex Baumann]

I knew it ! :thumb:

[in_d_haus]

And the cost?

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by alee
Did I get anything out of it? Well, it looks nicer. :D

-Al

Are you nuts ? it looks gorgeous !

[alee]

Originally posted by in_d_haus
And the cost?
About $1500. I can probably get $1000 for my old navigation, making the upgrade cost around $500.

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
I knew it ! :thumb:
I wasn't really going to take off my trim to clean behind it, contrary to popular belief. :)

I've been waiting on parts since March 4th. They just arrived this afternoon.

[Mr Paddle.Shift]

way to go Alee!!!! WOOHOO!! :thumb: :thumb:

Originally posted by alee

About $1500. I can probably get $1000 for my old navigation, making the upgrade cost around $500.

[Kaz]

So when are you gonna put the Japan-market DVD drive in? :D

Way to go! :thumb:

[Kaz]

BTW, who manufactures the 2 NAV heads?

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

I wasn't really going to take off my trim to clean behind it, contrary to popular belief. :)

I've been waiting on parts since March 4th. They just arrived this afternoon.

I hope you saw there is a mid year change to the 2002's, I assume you will be retrofitting those new parts too.:thumb:

[alee]

Originally posted by Kaz
BTW, who manufactures the 2 NAV heads?

Philips makes the 4:3 head.

Alpine makes the 16:9 head.

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
I hope you saw there is a mid year change to the 2002's, I assume you will be retrofitting those new parts too.:thumb:
Maybe I can snag an 02 vin after I finish all my 2002 retrofits. I'll be ready just in time for 2003, and a whole new slew of retrofits. :D

[Dr. Phil]

Al nice job:thumb: I'm surprised that you kept in a secret:rolleyes:

Is there really a $1000 market for the old one or have the Z fumes really gotten to you:dunno:

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
Is there really a $1000 market for the old one or have the Z fumes really gotten to you:dunno:
I suppose we'll find out soon. :)

I'm holding on to my old nav for a week or so in case something goes terribly wrong. :)

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

Maybe I can snag an 02 vin after I finish all my 2002 retrofits. I'll be ready just in time for 2003, and a whole new slew of retrofits. :D

Aha, something else I have that you want.:D I think the '03 coupe will be getting a facelift, Jon S's post hinted at that....now that's a retrofit I want to see you do, with DIY pix.:thumb:

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by alee
I'm holding on to my old nav for a week or so in case something goes terribly wrong. :)

Why don't you install it in the headrests ? :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee


I'm holding on to my old nav for a week or so in case something goes terribly wrong. :)

Like being constantly given directions to Mike's house?:dunno:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


Like being constantly given directions to Mike's house?:dunno:
ROTFLMAO

:lmao:

Now that would be a nightmare :D

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
Why don't you install it in the headrests ? :D
:lmao: I was thinking of replacing my speedo and tach with my 01 nav. :D

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
Like being constantly given directions to Mike's house?:dunno:
If that happens, I'll be needing a good lawyer. :D

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by vexed


Like being constantly given directions to Mike's house?:dunno:

Isn't it a built-in function ?

Al, I can't see the 'Mike' button on that NAV :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

If that happens, I'll be needing a good lawyer. :D

I'm ready, was in court all morning.:thumb:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann


Isn't it a built-in function ?

Al, I can't see the 'Mike' button on that NAV :D
It's the button that looks like this http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/bootyshake.gif

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

It's the button that looks like this http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/bootyshake.gif

:lmao: :lmao:

How do you get those smilies, I have gone to that site but have been denied.:(

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

It's the button that looks like this http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/bootyshake.gif

:D
http://erikli-hamburg.bei.t-online.de/169retrofitted.jpg

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


:lmao: :lmao:

How do you get those smilies, I have gone to that site but have been denied.:(
Try this link smilies page comps of Nate (http://forums.off-topic.net/misc.php?action=showsmilies)

I think you need to jump right to the smilies:dunno: Some of the board topics might keep you amused for a while though:eeps:

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Try this link smilies page comps of Nate (http://forums.off-topic.net/misc.php?action=showsmilies)

I think you need to jump right to the smilies:dunno: Some of the board topics might keep you amused for a while though:eeps:

Thanks, this is what I need to do more of to Clemhttp://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/bowdown.gif

Just kidding Clem, I love my name.:thumb:

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by vexed
Just kidding Clem, I love my name.:thumb:

And we love your title :D

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


Thanks, this is what I need to do more of to Clemhttp://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/bowdown.gif

Just kidding Clem, I love my name.:thumb:
I think you're right to keep quiet for a while, unless you want to go back to the "boy toy club".:yikes:

[jw]

Al -

That is too cool! Where in the world did you find someone to buy your old Nav? Hmmm... now you really got me going. Know someone else who wants an old Nav? :)

BTW, got your mail. Thanks! It'll be returned promply.

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
Al nice job:thumb: I'm surprised that you kept in a secret:rolleyes:

Is there really a $1000 market for the old one or have the Z fumes really gotten to you:dunno:
He didn't keep it that much of a secret...I have known about it since he ordered the parts but I have been real nice about not harrassing him on the board about it. I have however been giving him grief through e-mails :thumb:

If you come to my neighborhood you won't need a lawyer, you will need an ER...unknown Asians can be shot on sight, it's in the township law...so unless you have a Hong Kong Lucky Pearl delivery sign on your car you had better stay away :lmao:

And Phil...this is all I have to say about your nav screen symbol for me...
http://tempest.prismnet.com/~mrlifto/m0r4cmme.gif
:lmao: :lmao:

[vexed]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann


And we love your title :D

It's great, very creative on the part of our administrator.:D

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

He didn't keep it that much of a secret...I have known about it since he ordered the parts but I have been real nice about not harrassing him on the board about it. I have however been giving him grief through e-mails :thumb:

If you come to my neighborhood you won't need a lawyer, you will need an ER...unknown Asians can be shot on sight, it's in the township law...so unless you have a Hong Kong Lucky Pearl delivery sign on your car you had better stay away :lmao:

And Phil...this is all I have to say about your nav screen symbol for me...
http://tempest.prismnet.com/~mrlifto/m0r4cmme.gif
:lmao: :lmao:
Not feeling the love Mike:cry: :( At least I didn't use the other options there:rolleyes:

I knew from his how to remove trim thread something was up but wasn't sure what it was:D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

He didn't keep it that much of a secret...I have known about it since he ordered the parts but I have been real nice about not harrassing him on the board about it. I have however been giving him grief through e-mails :thumb:

If you come to my neighborhood you won't need a lawyer, you will need an ER...unknown Asians can be shot on sight, it's in the township law...so unless you have a Hong Kong Lucky Pearl delivery sign on your car you had better stay away :lmao:

And Phil...this is all I have to say about your nav screen symbol for me...
http://tempest.prismnet.com/~mrlifto/m0r4cmme.gif
:lmao: :lmao:

I sense some hostility here......:dunno:

[alee]

Originally posted by jw
That is too cool! Where in the world did you find someone to buy your old Nav?
1 word for you... EBAY. :D

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


It's great, very creative on the part of our administrator.:D
SYCOPHANT

But I guess thats one of the things that makes you a great lawyer:thumb:

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
I knew from his how to remove trim thread something was up but wasn't sure what it was:D
You didn't buy that I was going to clean behind my trim? :D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


I sense some hostility here......:dunno:
No hostility...just love, love, love for the Amish wagon driver and the Attorney at luau (I must say that is pretty clever!!) :thumb:

:D :D

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


I sense some hostility here......:dunno:
I think he's upset but I wouldn't know why:dunno: ;) :D

[alee]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

He didn't keep it that much of a secret...I have known about it since he ordered the parts but I have been real nice about not harrassing him on the board about it. I have however been giving him grief through e-mails :thumb:
I figured why waste bandwidth on the Fest when I can fill up Mike's mailbox with my miserable rants about late deliveries, and chasing UPS trucks. :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

SYCOPHANT

But I guess thats one of the things that makes you a great lawyer:thumb:

Now that's a big word, you mean toadie, asskisser, fawning, obsequious? Not me.:angel:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

SYCOPHANT

But I guess thats one of the things that makes you a great lawyer:thumb:
No...being a sycophant makes him a good lawyer...the complete lack of a conscience makes him a GREAT lawyer!! :thumb:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

You didn't buy that I was going to clean behind my trim? :D
I was on the fence about that one, but I was guessing new Ipaq hard mount or new phone to be honest.:D

IMO waste of $$ but it does look better and it makes you happy so :thumb:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee

I figured why waste bandwidth on the Fest when I can fill up Mike's mailbox with my miserable rants about late deliveries, and chasing UPS trucks. :D
I almost fell out of my chair when I read about you chasing the UPS truck!!!! :lmao:

I told someone else about that today and lets just say that she is now convinced that you are completely nuts!!!

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

No hostility...just love, love, love for the Amish wagon driver and the Attorney at luau (I must say that is pretty clever!!) :thumb:

:D :D

I like it:thumb: Shows he cares.:rolleyes: Phil and I think that one or more of us coined uber-slacker could be some copyright issues here.:confused:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


Now that's a big word, you mean toadie, asskisser, fawning, obsequious? Not me.:angel:
Good catch on the "FAWING" before I had a chance to ask WTF that meant :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

No...being a sycophant makes him a good lawyer...the complete lack of a conscience makes him a GREAT lawyer!! :thumb:

That and the ability to talk about any subject for any length of time and say absolutely nothing.http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/pat.gif

[alee]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

I almost fell out of my chair when I read about you chasing the UPS truck!!!! :lmao:

I told someone else about that today and lets just say that she is now convinced that you are completely nuts!!!
For everyone's amusement... when I tracked my package, UPS apparently wouldn't take a written note as a release.

I flipped out. I paid Next Day delivery and I wasn't going to take no for an answer. I cut out of work, drove home, grabbed the UPS "we'll be back tomorrow" notice, and went driving around Wayne for 10 minutes until I found the UPS truck. I asked him if he tried doing a delivery at my place, talked cars for a little bit (had to make sure he found me harmless enough to release the package at a street corner) and then I was able to get my package. :D

Then I drove back to work and pretended like I never left. 26 minutes later it was time for me to go home again. :)

The whole install process was about 2.5 hours. Most of it spent inside putting the navigation system together. About 15 minutes installing it in the car.

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

Good catch on the "FAWING" before I had a chance to ask WTF that meant :D

I always get busted on my typos although I never return the favor.:rolleyes:

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

For everyone's amusement... when I tracked my package, UPS apparently wouldn't take a written note as a release.

I flipped out. I paid Next Day delivery and I wasn't going to take no for an answer. I cut out of work, drove home, grabbed the UPS "we'll be back tomorrow" notice, and went driving around Wayne for 10 minutes until I found the UPS truck. I asked him if he tried doing a delivery at my place, talked cars for a little bit (had to make sure he found me harmless enough to release the package at a street corner) and then I was able to get my package. :D

Then I drove back to work and pretended like I never left. 26 minutes later it was time for me to go home again. :)

The whole install process was about 2.5 hours. Most of it spent inside putting the navigation system together. About 15 minutes installing it in the car.

We have the DSM-IV in our office, I can go look up these symptoms.:eek:

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
We have the DSM-IV in our office, I can go look up these symptoms.:eek:
My picture should be in there. I was the reason for the DSM-IV. :D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


I always get busted on my typos although I never return the favor.:rolleyes:
That's because you are a lawyer with an Ivy League education...while I, sadly went to a lower tier school for engineering :cry: ...it's my only opportunity to throw shots at the big boys :)

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

My picture should be in there. I was the reason for the DSM-IV. :D

It should be OB in your honor.:D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


We have the DSM-IV in our office, I can go look up these symptoms.:eek:
I don't think you need to look up the symptoms. Even Freud himself would see Al's behaviour and say "He's just F'n nuts and there is nothing I can do :( "

:D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

That's because you are a lawyer with an Ivy League education...while I, sadly went to a lower tier school for engineering :cry: ...it's my only opportunity to throw shots at the big boys :)

But you have more fun than I do, on your ledge. :thumb: What's worse is that I was an English major.:yikes:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


But you have more fun than I do, on your ledge. :thumb: What's worse is that I was an English major.:yikes:
I know...I've read your bio Mr. Rand.

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

I don't think you need to look up the symptoms. Even Freud himself would see Al's behaviour and say "He's just F'n nuts and there is nothing I can do :( "

:D

I think they are coming up with a new Chapter and code for Al.:eek:

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

I know...I've read your bio Mr. Rand.

Sent to you by Mr. Stalker.:dunno:

[Alex Baumann]

Look what I've found :D

Alee and his NAV (http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46/forum.php?postid=143883&page=1)

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


Sent to you by Mr. Stalker.:dunno:
The internet is an amazing thing when you have Mr. Lee as your friend and I-net P.I. :D

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
Look what I've found :D

Alee and his NAV (http://bimmer.roadfly.org/bmw/forums/e46/forum.php?postid=143883&page=1)
LOL! A short 4 months later. :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

The internet is an amazing thing when you have Mr. Lee as your friend and I-net P.I. :D

A blessing and a curse.:rolleyes:

[alee]

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/widescreen/images/nav1.jpg

A small collection of images from today (http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/widescreen)

[Alex Baumann]

me wants too :cry:

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
me wants too :cry:
You'll have to start here :D

http://www.anuff.com/bmw/nav/sys

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by alee

You'll have to start here :D

http://www.anuff.com/bmw/nav/sys

No, I'll have to start to configure a new car first :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann


No, I'll have to start to configure a new car first :D

It would be easier, and you would get a new leather OEM key holder.:thumb:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee
A small collection of images from today[/URL]
Lets tally this up...

Original Nav $1700+
Tax $102
New "big screen" Nav unit $1500+
Tax $90
Ok...let us assume Al didn't pay tax on the new unit because it was shipped from CA...so the total comes to: $3302+

All to have a bigger nav screen...

Now lets examine the alternatives:

Normal sized road atlas: $12.95
http://www.universalmap.com/2002-AAA-US.jpg

The new "big screen" road atlas: also $12.95
http://www.universalmap.com/products/ratlases/a_2002-LARGE-PRT.jpg

Total out of pocket: $25.90

Hmmmm...interesting :confused:

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by vexed
It would be easier, and you would get a new leather OEM key holder.:thumb:

Mmmm, new leather smell, took me back to January 2000 as I picked my car up from the dealer.

Only 10 months more...10 months.....10 months.....

[alee]

I have much to learn from Mike. :D Us young kids and our fancy electronics. :tsk:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee
I have much to learn from Mike. :D Us young kids and our fancy electronics. :tsk:
Shhhhh...don't tell anyone but the day after I got my Palm IIIc I got the Earthmate GPS to go with it...and if you hook it to a laptop it works like the nav screen with voice and map directions.

Not quite up to your gadget freak nature but I am just as bad :(

:rolleyes:

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

Shhhhh...don't tell anyone but the day after I got my Palm IIIc I got the Earthmate GPS to go with it...and if you hook it to a laptop it works like the nav screen with voice and map directions.

Not quite up to your gadget freak nature but I am just as bad :(

:rolleyes:

Nooooooooo, oh noooooooooo. Not you Mike, next thing Al will have lured you to the dark side. :yikes:

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed


Nooooooooo, oh noooooooooo. Not you Mike, next thing Al will have lured you to the dark side. :yikes:
It's something in the water here in PA. :D You should be glad you left when you did. We're all messed up here.

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

It's something in the water here in PA. :D You should be glad you left when you did. We're all messed up here.

And I have not been back.:eek: Does Phil drink the same water.:dunno:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee

It's something in the water here in PA. :D You should be glad you left when you did. We're all messed up here.
Speak for yourself jellyfish boy!!!

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed


And I have not been back.:eek: Does Phil drink the same water.:dunno:
You say that like you think Phil is normal. :tsk:

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

You say that like you think Phil is normal. :tsk:

Define normal. Compared to you....oh never mind.:rolleyes:

[___lk___]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
Al nice job:thumb: I'm surprised that you kept in a secret:rolleyes:

Is there really a $1000 market for the old one or have the Z fumes really gotten to you:dunno:

problem is, there's a f*ckload of stuff that you will probably need to add any NAV to a car that never had it...wiring, CD, clips, brackets, antennas, and on and on.... :rolleyes:

has anyone ever figured out all you need to retrofit NAV in an E46 that never had it?

[alee]

Originally posted by ___lk___
has anyone ever figured out all you need to retrofit NAV in an E46 that never had it?
Yep... Ed Anuff did.

Visit his site (http://www.anuff.com/bmw/nav/sys) to see all the crazy crap he went through. :D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


And I have not been back.:eek: Does Phil drink the same water.:dunno:
His water is horse manure tainted :eek:

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

His water is horse manure tainted :eek:

Hmm Zaino or horse manure, Zaino or horse manure, a Hobson's choice.:yikes:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


Hmm Zaino or horse manure, Zaino or horse manure, a Hobson's choice.:yikes:
I'll bet Zaino tastes and smells better :confused:

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

I'll bet Zaino tastes and smells better :confused:

I know who we can ask.:eek:

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


I know who we can ask.:eek:
That's true...I'll bet he uses it like hot sauce :yikes:

Speaking of...time for me to get some dinner.

Later Richard...

BTW...is the case over? Did you win? Or will this one drag out for a while?

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

That's true...I'll bet he uses it like hot sauce :yikes:

Speaking of...time for me to get some dinner.

Later Richard...

BTW...is the case over? Did you win? Or will this one drag out for a while?

Eeek, the mini trial is over, just waiting for the Judge, in this one we were asking for money, company going after ex-employee.:eek:

[ObD]

So when is the Automatic Headlight Control mod? :)

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by vexed


Eeek, the mini trial is over, just waiting for the Judge, in this one we were asking for money, company going after ex-employee.:eek:
I read the case when you posted it...do you really think the judge will award the company any money or just make both sides drop their claims?

[alee]

Originally posted by ObD
So when is the Automatic Headlight Control mod? :)
Ding ding ding... next on my list. Not that I'd ever use it. Just need it to be an 02 ya know. :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

I read the case when you posted it...do you really think the judge will award the company any money or just make both sides drop their claims?

Oh, different case. The one you saw is over- except for us trying to collect our costs.:thumb:

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

Ding ding ding... next on my list. Not that I'd ever use it. Just need it to be an 02 ya know. :D

You better read thishttp://www.bimmerfest.com/members/vexed/dsm.jpg

[alee]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I can live with that. :D

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

I can live with that. :D

With all those new wonder drugs you can look forward to a long and productive life---as an uber-slacker.:thumb:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

You say that like you think Phil is normal. :tsk:
Come on Al I wasn't even here to defend myself:( But Vexed is correct next to you I'm like Ward Cleaver. Did I just say I was a middle aged nerd:dunno:

Check that next to you I'm like ....... oh forget it you're right all of us from PA are messed up:cry:

:D

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Did I just say I was a middle aged nerd:dunno:

Check that next to you I'm like ....... oh forget it you're right all of us from PA are messed up:cry:

:D

Damn what does that make me
:dunno:

And don't say old.http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/sleep.gif

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


Damn what does that make me
:dunno:

And don't say old.http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/sleep.gif
Upper middle aged ex-PA resident living in paradise:dunno:

Be thankful, even with those chicken legs Al makes you look like Mr. Joe Normal:yikes:

[Plaz]

Originally posted by alee

Did I get anything out of it? Well, it looks nicer. :D


Al, you are a NUT! Whoa! Just when I was starting to think you weren't THAT over the top!

Keepin' up with the Joneses! :)

Congrats!

What happens when they put a CD player in the Nav unit next year? :dunno:

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Upper middle aged ex-PA resident living in paradise:dunno:

Be thankful, even with those chicken legs Al makes you look like Mr. Joe Normal:yikes:

:cry: :cry: I should teach you guys how to say DOM in Chinese and Japanese.:thumb:

Anyone is normal compared to Al. That poor UPS driver.:eek:

[alee]

Originally posted by Plaz 330i
Al, you are a NUT! Whoa! Just when I was starting to think you weren't THAT over the top!
I have you to thank for aggravating my OCD to the point of breaking down and calling Pacific BMW to ship me the goods. :D :D
What happens when they put a CD player in the Nav unit next year? :dunno:
Unless they change the protocols, should be able to remove the 02 cassette housing, swap in the CD housing and keep the screen. :thumb:

I pulled out the nav and it looked like you could fit a 6 disk changer back there. :D

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
Anyone is normal compared to Al. That poor UPS driver.:eek:
His first words were "uh oh" when he saw me with the UPS slip. :eeps:

[Plaz]

Originally posted by alee

I have you to thank for aggravating my OCD to the point of breaking down and calling Pacific BMW to ship me the goods.

Hey, you asked for a pic... I just happened to have a movie available. :dunno:

Unless they change the protocols, should be able to remove the 02 cassette housing, swap in the CD housing and keep the screen. :thumb:

I pulled out the nav and it looked like you could fit a 6 disk changer back there. :D

Sweet!

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee
I pulled out the nav and it looked like you could fit a 6 disk changer back there. :D
You figure out how to do that and I'll buy your old unit:)

Nav is/was not on top of my list of priorities. First I definatly want a CD in dash and second I never had Nav so don't miss it. But if CD was available with NAV I might have bit just to have another gadget:thumb:

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

His first words were "uh oh" when he saw me with the UPS slip. :eeps:

That's only because they are not allowed to swear.:D

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
Nav is/was not on top of my list of priorities. First I definatly want a CD in dash and second I never had Nav so don't miss it. But if CD was available with NAV I might have bit just to have another gadget:thumb:
I haven't had in-dash CD in my last 4 cars, so I didn't know what I was missing. :D You can already do minidisc behind the nav screen, so I'm sure CD is coming really soon.

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

His first words were "uh oh" when he saw me with the UPS slip. :eeps:
He was probably wishing he had this truck for the day so he could out run you:D
http://www.racing.ups.com/racing/truck/images/carvtruck_main.gif

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

He was probably wishing he had this truck for the day so he could out run you:D
http://www.racing.ups.com/racing/truck/images/carvtruck_main.gif

LOL, want to see current weather, this is the view from my other window.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/members/vexed/dhvw1.jpg

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


LOL, want to see current weather, this is the view from my other window.

Oh I was justing sitting here thinking boy I could really go for Vexed sharing some more scenic shots (why not just rub manure in my face):mad: And to boot you point out to Al that you have multiple windows:(

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed


LOL, want to see current weather, this is the view from my other window.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/members/vexed/dhvw1.jpg
Wow you suck. :mad:

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Oh I was justing sitting here thinking boy I could really go for Vexed sharing some more scenic shots (why not just rub manure in my face):mad: And to boot you point out to Al that you have multiple windows:(

Do you like this one better:D
http://www.bimmerfest.com/members/vexed/dhvw2.jpg

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

Wow you suck. :mad:
No Al, he really SUCKS :mad: :mad:


And I don't like the second one any better:(

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

No Al, he really SUCKS :mad: :mad:


And I don't like the second one any better:(
Alex 325i is banned from posting pics of his M3, and vexed is banned from posting Hawaii pics. :mad:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

Alex 325i is banned from posting pics of his M3, and vexed is banned from posting Hawaii pics. :mad:
Agreed:thumb: But take it easy on Alex for now, I'm trying to broker a let us drive it so we can support you in comparison w/ E36s deal:rolleyes:

Road trip to Fla may be in the works:dunno: Could be a good test for the New NAV:thumb:

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

Alex 325i is banned from posting pics of his M3, and vexed is banned from posting Hawaii pics. :mad:

Hey that is in his signature, does that mean you don't want to see the others I just took:dunno:

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
Hey that is in his signature, does that mean you don't want to see the others I just took:dunno:
I have signatures turned off. I can't stand the pain. :mad:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


Hey that is in his signature, does that mean you don't want to see the others I just took:dunno:
Not feeling the love counselor:(

Go ahead rub it in............but do you think maybe you could show some locals to brighten up the pics:rolleyes: You know like the ones that greet the tourists with leis:thumb:

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Not feeling the love counselor:(

Go ahead rub it in............but do you think maybe you could show some locals to brighten up the pics:rolleyes: You know like the ones that greet the tourists with leis:thumb:

You mean hula girls:thumb: Well I can try some day but they are not usually walking around the office.:(

[alee]

Originally posted by vexed
You mean hula girls:thumb: Well I can try some day but they are not usually walking around the office.:(
Wow your job really is no fun. :(

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by vexed


You mean hula girls:thumb: Well I can try some day but they are not usually walking around the office.:(
What too cheap to have one on staff to entertain your clients:lmao:

That would be cool but maybe just some nice candid shots :thumb:

[vexed]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

What too cheap to have one on staff to entertain your clients:lmao:

That would be cool but maybe just some nice candid shots :thumb:

We deliberately keep the office ugly to avoid temptation.:(
Until then you have to settle for this.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/members/vexed/hrbr1.jpg

[Dr. Phil]

Oh thanks so much for sharing that picture.............:mad:

But I can sense that you are trying to share the love:D

[vexed]

Originally posted by alee

Wow your job really is no fun. :(

I've been telling you guys that all along. :cry:

[alee]

Plaz, or anyone with a 2002 with navigation...

What direction do you have to turn the rightmost knob to move down a scrolling list?

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee
Plaz, or anyone with a 2002 with navigation...

What direction do you have to turn the rightmost knob to move down a scrolling list?
RTFM!!!

oops...I forgot you don't have the manual for the 2002 model...I guess the manual for your measly 2001 nav screen isn't of much help now is it? :D

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

RTFM!!!

oops...I forgot you don't have the manual for the 2002 model...I guess the manual for your measly 2001 nav screen isn't of much help now is it? :D

He needs to get a 2002 VIN first, then he can ask the dealer. :D

[alee]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

RTFM!!!

oops...I forgot you don't have the manual for the 2002 model...I guess the manual for your measly 2001 nav screen isn't of much help now is it? :D
LMAO! :lmao: :lmao:

I don't think TFM tells you which way to turn the knobs anyway. :thumbdwn:

The right one goes to 11. :thumb:

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
He needs to get a 2002 VIN first, then he can ask the dealer. :D
Alex, since you're in Germany, maybe you can arrange to have a 2002 VIN printed up for me. May as well get a 2003 VIN stamped up and ready when I retrofit 2003 parts in. :D

[Alex Baumann]

Originally posted by alee

Alex, since you're in Germany, maybe you can arrange to have a 2002 VIN printed up for me. May as well get a 2003 VIN stamped up and ready when I retrofit 2003 parts in. :D

LOL! OK, lemme check it with the guyz at the dealer.

Anything else you want me ask ? Like the body parts of the coming series ? :D

[alee]

Originally posted by Alex Baumann
Anything else you want me ask ? Like the body parts of the coming series ? :D
I was hoping for a Mini body retrofit. :D

While you're at it, maybe a full SMG II setup, and an S54 engine? :thumb:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

Alex, since you're in Germany, maybe you can arrange to have a 2002 VIN printed up for me. May as well get a 2003 VIN stamped up and ready when I retrofit 2003 parts in. :D
Will this compulsion ever end:confused: Hopefully not, since your sharing prevents us from spending mega $$ to find out:D

You thank Al............thank you:thumb: (trying to stay positive today so everyone can feel the love -- hush Mike)

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Will this compulsion ever end:confused: Hopefully not, since your sharing prevents us from spending mega $$ to find out:D
It ends when I run out of OEM 2002 parts to retrofit. :D

I'm really trying to keep all my mods strictly to BMW parts. With the exception of maybe the Conforti Shark Injector (whenever that comes out), the Conforti CAI and maybe stiffer sways, I have decided that everything else must be strictly BMW parts for compatibility, and appearance. And I stand a pretty good chance for warranty -- for all intents my dealer actually thinks my car is an 02.

The next project will be bi-xenons with automatic headlight control. I'm pretty convinced the bi-xenons alone won't work and will require the headlight control module and switch from the 2002 (which has auto headlight control on the premium package).

Have to wait until I sell my 01 navigation system before I start down the upgrade path again. :D

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee

It ends when I run out of OEM 2002 parts to retrofit. :D

I'm really trying to keep all my mods strictly to BMW parts. With the exception of maybe the Conforti Shark Injector (whenever that comes out), the Conforti CAI and maybe stiffer sways, I have decided that everything else must be strictly BMW parts for compatibility, and appearance. And I stand a pretty good chance for warranty -- for all intents my dealer actually thinks my car is an 02.

The next project will be bi-xenons with automatic headlight control. I'm pretty convinced the bi-xenons alone won't work and will require the headlight control module and switch from the 2002 (which has auto headlight control on the premium package).

Have to wait until I sell my 01 navigation system before I start down the upgrade path again. :D
Good thoughts Al :) Is the old set up on Ebay yet? You know its been over 12 hours since its been out:rolleyes:

The bi-xenon is an expensive proposition for the benefit IMO. Especially since you live and drive in a metro area. I know you've heard this before but why not put that mad money into the //M account:dunno:

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Good thoughts Al :) Is the old set up on Ebay yet? You know its been over 12 hours since its been out:rolleyes:
I already have 3 offers in my inbox. It may never make it to eBay. :D
The bi-xenon is an expensive proposition for the benefit IMO. Especially since you live and drive in a metro area. I know you've heard this before but why not put that mad money into the //M account:dunno:
With the exception of Lancaster Ave., there is a surprising lack of lighting where I live. I've never been given grief for my xenons anyway, so the more light, the better off I am.

The ///M account is a totally different conversation. :D Right now, all that money is in the "where are you going to live next year" account. Whatever else I have is going towards paying off the car... hopefully this year. And there's always room in the budget for a mod every few months to keep the car fresh. :)

Once the 330Ci is paid in full, I can decide if I'm actually foolish enough to want a faster and more impractical car. :)

If I'm living in NYC, I think I'll have enough problems keeping a 330Ci insured... even with a clean record, and all insurance discounts, I'll be looking at close to 3x my current premium. If I'm living in the burbs, and have a garage, maybe having another BMW in the stable becomes a great idea. :)

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by alee
The ///M account is a totally different conversation. :D Right now, all that money is in the "where are you going to live next year" account.
As in house or area or both (sounds like NYC area is looking more likely)

Whatever else I have is going towards paying off the car... hopefully this year. And there's always room in the budget for a mod every few months to keep the car fresh. :)
Good luck w/ the payoff (I wish I could do the same but probably 2.5 years for me:cry: ) As for fresh, I don't think any of us have a "fresher" looking car than yours:thumb:

Once the 330Ci is paid in full, I can decide if I'm actually foolish enough to want a faster and more impractical car. :)
Pratctical ~ Al ----- Oxymoron go for it:D

If I'm living in NYC, I think I'll have enough problems keeping a 330Ci insured... even with a clean record, and all insurance discounts, I'll be looking at close to 3x my current premium. If I'm living in the burbs, and have a garage, maybe having another BMW in the stable becomes a great idea. :)
Burbs and garage are the way Al:) Just think indoor detail facilities, storage for style 68s and cleaning stuff, use for the UGDO.......;)

[alee]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT
Burbs and garage are the way Al:) Just think indoor detail facilities, storage for style 68s and cleaning stuff, use for the UGDO.......;)
I was thinking maybe I'd buy a nice warehouse. :D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by alee

I was thinking maybe I'd buy a nice warehouse. :D
Can I store my type 73's and all seasons in there?? :thumb:

[Dr. Phil]

Originally posted by Mike 325xi

Can I store my type 73's and all seasons in there?? :thumb:
Not getting along with sister? I'm sure there is room at her shop plus they could be cleaned and waxed before putting them back on:D

[Mike 325xi]

Originally posted by PM 325xiT

Not getting along with sister? I'm sure there is room at her shop plus they could be cleaned and waxed before putting them back on:D
That is where they will be stored :thumb: Not only cleaned and waxed before putting them back on but cleaned and waxed before storing them :thumb:

Plus use of the floor jack, torque wrench and her workers to do it if I wanted!! Plus if I was really lazy they have an air gun impact wrench...but I wouldn't use that on my wheels.

[Plaz]

Originally posted by alee
Plaz, or anyone with a 2002 with navigation...

What direction do you have to turn the rightmost knob to move down a scrolling list?

It was counter-intuitive to me at first... turning the knob left moves down in the list.

But then I started thinking about it differently... turning the knob "down," as if it were a volume knob, say, moves down the list.

[alee]

Originally posted by Plaz 330i
It was counter-intuitive to me at first... turning the knob left moves down in the list.
So weird. Ok I guess mine is working as designed. In 01, you turn to the right. I guess since they moved the knob farther away they switched the direction?

Thanks! Now I feel better again. :D

[sedate]

I'm thinking about updating my '01 M3 w/ NAV to the widescreen. Do you have a DIY for it? If I get it w/ in-dash CD (currently w/ tape deck), what happens to my trunk changer? Thanks.

Talk about a difficult installation!

[alee]

I'm thinking about updating my '01 M3 w/ NAV to the widescreen. Do you have a DIY for it? If I get it w/ in-dash CD (currently w/ tape deck), what happens to my trunk changer? Thanks.
All I have is some pictures: http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/widescreen

You don't lose CD changer functionality if you get the in-dash CD player.

[ChadS]

Keep in my though that if you upgrade and get the in-dash CD instead of the in-dash tape, IIRC it will not work (the CD that is). The radio in the 01's doesn't recognize it so you will need to get the tape version. You can though replace the radio, but that is a major PITA because the wiring harness changed and the connector to the radio is different.

You can check at the BMW Navigation Yahoo group for more information.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwnav/

[crazymonkey]

undefinedTalk about a difficult installation! :mad:

Still getting everything organized here, but thought I'd throw these 2 pictures up :D

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169compare.jpg

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169retrofitted.jpg

The installation itself was maybe 15 minutes. Preparing for the installation took close to 2 hours.

Did I get anything out of it? Well, it looks nicer. :D

-Al

Hi,

Your install looks fanatstic. I own a 330ci with the harmon kardon premium sound, but no navigation. Where can I get the nav system you put in and where do I get info to install it.

Thanks,
Crazy

P.S. I'm not really crazy this is simply a form of martial arts I practice.

[alee]

Your install looks fanatstic. I own a 330ci with the harmon kardon premium sound, but no navigation. Where can I get the nav system you put in and where do I get info to install it.
Buy the parts at any BMW dealer. Follow the detailed instructions here http://www.openbmw.org/nav/sys.

It is not an easy install if you don't already have the nav... and you will have to build an run a number of custom harnesses to make it work. I would guess it woud cost you about $3000 or so in parts, and take you 20 or so hours to do.

[crazymonkey]

Do you know the part numbers of the navigation system, and could I get a better deal buying them online?

Thanks for the quick reply,


Cracy

[alee]

Do you know the part numbers of the navigation system, and could I get a better deal buying them online?[/B]
Read the link... all the part #s are listed there. :D Pacific BMW and Circle BMW typically have the best prices. I would suggest faxing the parts list to them for a price quote since there are so many pieces involved.

If you want the widescreen, substitute 65 52 8 383 345 and 65 52 8 375 869 with 65 50 6 911 011 Housing and 65 50 6 911 009 Screen.

[crazymonkey]

Thanks,

In ten minutes you provided more information than I have found in ten hours searching the web.

Thanks again,
Crazy :)

[BlackIce]

Nice Install! I have the same old setup as you and I am thing of a retrofit as you have. What is all the preparation you need to do? Do you have a step-by-step instruction to do this retrofit?

Thanks!

Talk about a difficult installation! :mad:

Still getting everything organized here, but thought I'd throw these 2 pictures up :D

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169compare.jpg

http://staff.pop3now.com/alee/bmw/169retrofitted.jpg

The installation itself was maybe 15 minutes. Preparing for the installation took close to 2 hours.

Did I get anything out of it? Well, it looks nicer. :D

-Al

[ChadS]

Nice Install! I have the same old setup as you and I am thing of a retrofit as you have. What is all the preparation you need to do? Do you have a step-by-step instruction to do this retrofit?

Thanks!I've done the same retrofit. It is basically all plug and play; take out the old screen and put the new one in. The hardest part of the entire process is connecting the new screen and new cassette housing together (need to take the cover off the housing and fish the ribbon wire to its connector). Once that is done though installing it takes just a matter of minutes.

[free81]

Does any one know if the P/N 65-52-6-915-518 covering and the P/N 65-52-6-915-516 housing would look flush in a 2001 BMW 330Ci if i were to replace the current navigation unit (4:3) with this model (16:9) which I believe goes into the 5 and 7 series. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[gfeiner]

Does any one know if the P/N 65-52-6-915-518 covering and the P/N 65-52-6-915-516 housing would look flush in a 2001 BMW 330Ci if i were to replace the current navigation unit (4:3) with this model (16:9) which I believe goes into the 5 and 7 series. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm curious about that as well. I have a copy of a May 2003 ETK and, strangely, those part numbers come up as "not in master file".

[ChadS]

Does any one know if the P/N 65-52-6-915-518 covering and the P/N 65-52-6-915-516 housing would look flush in a 2001 BMW 330Ci if i were to replace the current navigation unit (4:3) with this model (16:9) which I believe goes into the 5 and 7 series. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Can't comment directly on those part numbers, but if they are for the 5 & 7 series it won't fit; its too big.