Why I don't get a motorcycle.

[JoeM3]

:yikes:

http://jalopnik.com/348930/volkswagen-golf-meets-a-motorcycle-at-155-mph-doesnt-go-well

[Dave 330i]

It was presented to senior management at NASA, JSC. The driver in the VW (?) was texting and pull in front of the cycle. You cannot use handheld cell phone at JSC. :yikes:

[stylinexpat]

Horrible way to die :eek:

[Robsa]

Horrible way to die :eek:


Looks like it was a quick end.

[mullman]

Why I don't get a motorcycle

The motorcycle was not the problem, it was the poor judgement of the operator.

[Double-S]

The motorcycle was not the problem, it was the poor judgement of the operator.

Maybe the OP is very self aware and understands he lacks the proper judgment and common sense to ride a motorcycle.

I say good for him.

[JoeM3]

Maybe the OP is very self aware and understands he lacks the proper judgment and common sense to ride a motorcycle.


People with proper judgement and common sense don't ride cycles in cities.

[MMMM_ERT]

The motorcycle was not the problem, it was the poor judgement of the operator.

Bingo.

[Dave 330i]

This was the messge when the charts were presented to senior staff at Johnson Space Center. Different twist to the story...

Motorcycle rider was traveling approximately*85 mph. The VW driver was talking on a cell phone when they pulled out from a side street, apparently not seeing the motorcycle. The rider***8217;s reaction time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident.

The car had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 20 feet from where the collision took place.

All three involved (two in the car and the bike rider) were killed instantly.

Stop talking on Cell phones*or*Texting while trying to drive!

[Ryan...]

People with proper judgement and common sense don't ride cycles in cities.

Huh... I have been riding in cities for the past three years, and I average about 8k miles a year, city/hwy riding, and I've never made a mistake like this.
Perhaps you meant: "People with proper judgement don't go 85 mph in the city"

[Michael Schott]

People with proper judgement and common sense don't ride cycles in cities.

Garbage. When you make the decision to ride a motorcycle this includes the risks. A good rider knows what's going on around him or her and rides defensively in high traffic areas. I rode for 5 years in the Detroit area and never came close to having an accident. I also never went 85 anywhere but on a freeway.

Thanks, Mike.

[Double-S]

Garbage. When you make the decision to ride a motorcycle this includes the risks. A good rider knows what's going on around him or her and rides defensively in high traffic areas. I rode for 5 years in the Detroit area and never came close to having an accident. I also never went 85 anywhere but on a freeway.

Thanks, Mike.

+1

I suspect the OP is just afraid of motorcycles given their capabilities and the required coordination and intelligence to ride one safely.

No big deal, my mom also thinks the same way.

[mullman]

My mom and I rode about 200 miles yesterday.
Yep, she is 60+ and averages 18K+ per year. :thumbup:

[Ryan...]

My mom and I rode about 200 miles yesterday.
Yep, she is 60+ and averages 18K+ per year. :thumbup:

haha sweet dude! My mom is going to take her riding test next year, granted she won't be on a rocket, but I'd still ride with her :D

[SportBikeGirl]

My mom and I rode about 200 miles yesterday.
Yep, she is 60+ and averages 18K+ per year. :thumbup:

Awesome, I think that's great! :thumbup:

[Double-S]

haha sweet dude! My mom is going to take her riding test next year, granted she won't be on a rocket, but I'd still ride with her :D

When are you gonna get your woman riding?

[MMMM_ERT]

Huh... I have been riding in cities for the past three years, and I average about 8k miles a year, city/hwy riding, and I've never made a mistake like this.
Perhaps you meant: "People with proper judgement don't go 85 mph in the city"

Stop using logic. ;)

PS: Why hasn't this been toe'd yet?

[Ryan...]

When are you gonna get your woman riding?

Next summer I'm going to get her riding, I'm borrowing my cousin's old Ninja 250 and I'll get her started on that. She's only 5'3 maybe 115lbs (IDK, never asked :D), so I think a 250 is more than sufficient. She wanted to learn before she went off to school, (so she could bring a bike, cause she doesn't have her car there) but I don't think the busy traffic of Madison is a good place to start...

Stop using logic. ;)

PS: Why hasn't this been toe'd yet?

Yeah, I don't know where that blip of logic came from, surely it won't happen again :rofl:

[chivas]

Next summer I'm going to get her riding, I'm borrowing my cousin's old Ninja 250 and I'll get her started on that. She's only 5'3 maybe 115lbs (IDK, never asked :D), so I think a 250 is more than sufficient. She wanted to learn before she went off to school, (so she could bring a bike, cause she doesn't have her car there) but I don't think the busy traffic of Madison is a good place to start...



Yeah, I don't know where that blip of logic came from, surely it won't happen again :rofl:
can i borrow the 250 when she's done? i needs to learn too. everyone around me rides except, well, me. :( someone told me to get a 600/650 right off the bat to learn on. yeah... right.

[Double-S]

can i borrow the 250 when she's done? i needs to learn too. everyone around me rides except, well, me. :( someone told me to get a 600/650 right off the bat to learn on. yeah... right.

If you're Asian I'd stick with the Ninja 250 for starters.

It's not very heavy so when you dump it you'll be able to pick it up no problem.

Also, they're lower so you won't be on your toes at the lights.

The 600 sportbike is way too much bike unless you plan on hitting the gym regularly and upping your protein intake.

Also, avoid red bikes, they're way too fast.

Hope that helps...:)

[PhilipWOT]

That's the part of being a Paramedic that I am looking forward to the least.

[biglovemp]

If you're Asian I'd stick with the Ninja 250 for starters.

It's not very heavy so when you dump it you'll be able to pick it up no problem.

Also, they're lower so you won't be on your toes at the lights.

The 600 sportbike is way too much bike unless you plan on hitting the gym regularly and upping your protein intake.

Also, avoid red bikes, they're way too fast.

Hope that helps...:)

:rofl:

:bustingup

[stylinexpat]

If you're Asian I'd stick with the Ninja 250 for starters.

It's not very heavy so when you dump it you'll be able to pick it up no problem.

Also, they're lower so you won't be on your toes at the lights.

The 600 sportbike is way too much bike unless you plan on hitting the gym regularly and upping your protein intake.

Also, avoid red bikes, they're way too fast.

Hope that helps...:)

:rofl::rofl: Could be why scooters are so popular here in Taiwan along with the fact that they are automatic :angel:

[BerkleyBMW]

:rofl::rofl: Could be why scooters are so popular here in Taiwan along with the fact that they are automatic :angel:

Not just Taiwan, but most of Europe as well.

[MMMM_ERT]

If you're Asian I'd stick with the Ninja 250 for starters.

It's not very heavy so when you dump it you'll be able to pick it up no problem.

Also, they're lower so you won't be on your toes at the lights.

The 600 sportbike is way too much bike unless you plan on hitting the gym regularly and upping your protein intake.

Also, avoid red bikes, they're way too fast.

Hope that helps...:)

Wow...I must be a God to handle a 1584cc bike...

:rofl:

[Double-S]

Wow...I must be a God to handle a 1584cc bike...

:rofl:

Or very fat...

[MMMM_ERT]

Or very fat...

Wrong

[chivas]

Not just Taiwan, but most of Europe as well.
let me get this right.... cars are manual and bikes are automatic!?!? hum.... it's like bizzaro USA!

[chivas]

If you're Asian I'd stick with the Ninja 250 for starters.

It's not very heavy so when you dump it you'll be able to pick it up no problem.

Also, they're lower so you won't be on your toes at the lights.

The 600 sportbike is way too much bike unless you plan on hitting the gym regularly and upping your protein intake.

Also, avoid red bikes, they're way too fast.

Hope that helps...:)
thanks for the advice! having gout attacks every so often, i guess it would suck to be on the toes at the light (OUCH!) or to pick up a heavy bike after ditching the b*tch. Double-S, you touched my heart like you touch other member's member here. Much thanks! :kisses:


:rofl:

[Double-S]

Double-S, you touched my heart like you touch other member's member here. Much thanks! :kisses:

:rofl:

Anytime.

As long as you understand that's the only thing I'm willing to touch.

:)

[Ryan...]

can i borrow the 250 when she's done? i needs to learn too. everyone around me rides except, well, me. :( someone told me to get a 600/650 right off the bat to learn on. yeah... right.

Where are you from? After she's done with it who knows what shape it'll be in! :rofl:

I started on a 600, and have owned 3 of them so far, next will be 1000... I thought they were fine, as long as you respect the power and take extra precautions. :thumbup:

[thumper_330]

I also started on a Ninja 250... damned nice bike for a starter... light, easy and fun to ride. Also damned hard to get yourself a speeding ticket on unless you were going downhill ;)

A 600 MAY be a decent bike to start, if you get the right one. It all comes down to gearing. However, most 600's are geared to be crotch rockets. Then again I had a 750 (Honda Nighthawk) that I rode around for ages that would've been a fabulous starter bike, too. It didn't have much welly down low, but you could keep up with traffic on the highway.

If I were learning to ride today, I'd probably get a Kawasaki ER-6N (http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Product-Specifications.aspx?scid=6&id=430) or Kawasaki Versys (http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Product-Specifications.aspx?scid=6&id=433)... not that I have a love for Kawasaki necessarily (though I do ride a Concours 14) but those are both damned nice bikes for not a huge outlay of cash. They'd both make decent starter bikes, but have enough oomph to stay up with traffic.

Oh... and need I say MSF course is a necessity? :)

[Michael Schott]

can i borrow the 250 when she's done? i needs to learn too. everyone around me rides except, well, me. :( someone told me to get a 600/650 right off the bat to learn on. yeah... right.

This is not a bad suggestion. Don't get a 600 I-4 supersport but there are plenty of tamer bikes in that size that are good starter bikes. Look at the Suzuki SV650. I'm sure Honda and Yamaha also have less sporty bikes in this size.

Another advantage of starting on a bike this size is you won't need to upgrade as your riding skills improve.

Thanks, Mike.

[chivas]

i like street fighters like Triple Speed or the Monster type. any suggestions on one of those starters? the Monster is not it; too expensive and while it does look nice, the Ducati name just doesn't strike me well.

[thumper_330]

i like street fighters like Triple Speed or the Monster type. any suggestions on one of those starters? the Monster is not it; too expensive and while it does look nice, the Ducati name just doesn't strike me well.

The Speed Triple is a damned nice bike... but I would never recommend starting to ride on one of those! Good god, man! :) Seriously, that's a lot of bike for me, and I've been riding for years!

Again, take a look at the ER-6n for a street-fighter style bike... another good option (though used) would be the Honda 599... a classic street-fighter style 600cc bike that's a great starter option... or its big brother the 919. The latter is heavier and more powerful, but having ridden one I don't think it's too bad as a beginner bike so long as you have reasonable self-control :)

[Ryan...]

i like street fighters like Triple Speed or the Monster type. any suggestions on one of those starters? the Monster is not it; too expensive and while it does look nice, the Ducati name just doesn't strike me well.

Check out the Suzuki Gladius... what's your price range? My thinking on the matter was: it didn't pay to spend $1500 on a bike i'd outgrow in 2 weeks, take a loss selling it, then dump three times that into a bigger bike. If you were to find an old CBR F2 600, it won't be nearly as fast as a new 600, probably a little dinged up in old age, and just a great bike to tool around with and learn the ropes. It also gets you prepared for handling bigger bikes, the weight difference is often the biggest obstacle to overcome, not the power.

I've ridden both the Honda 600rr and a 1000rr (about 14k miles on the 600, and about 5k on the 1000), and a 1300cc Hayabusa for about 5 miles. While you do notice the power gains, the weight was the biggest thing I noticed. Once you're up and moving it's hard to find a difference, but in town, making slow turns, that's where the differences come into play the most.