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JSpira
05-23-2010, 01:08 PM
In my review of the F10 530d, I included a brief history of the 5er Series - and a slide show of all five previous generations of the 5er - including some shots of my own E60 550i (and my E39).

The article is online here (http://www.thedieseldriver.com/2010/05/the-2011-bmw-5-series/).

Make sure to go to the bottom to see the slide show(s).

John NY
05-23-2010, 02:49 PM
Good article. Thanks.

PolkNole
05-23-2010, 04:33 PM
50% of BMWs profits come from this model.

Interesting...

PhillyNate
05-23-2010, 05:29 PM
I threw up in mouth a little when I read that Bob Lutz had anything to do with BMW ever. Nice article other than that though.

JSpira
05-23-2010, 05:32 PM
I threw up in mouth a little when I read that Bob Lutz had anything to do with BMW ever.
You are kidding, right? :dunno: Lutz was one of the best marketing chiefs BMW had and is responsible for many things we take for granted today.

Nice article other than that though.Danke

mfumbesi
05-24-2010, 01:23 AM
Great review.

50% of BMWs profits come from this model.

Interesting...
Wow I was also surprised with that (locally we have more 3-series than any of the other BMW models on the road).
Is it pricing, meaning they get more money per 5-series sold than say a 3-series or is it quantities?

JSpira
05-24-2010, 06:00 AM
Great review.

Danke



Wow I was also surprised with that (locally we have more 3-series than any of the other BMW models on the road).
Is it pricing, meaning they get more money per 5-series sold than say a 3-series or is it quantities?
I would imagine it has to do with margins and the number of options 5er Series owners order.

specialist23
05-24-2010, 09:09 AM
i didn't know that they moved the i drive knob. how are you liking the new position of it? is it too far from a comfortable rest position?

JSpira
05-24-2010, 09:16 AM
i didn't know that they moved the i drive knob. how are you liking the new position of it? is it too far from a comfortable rest position?

From photographs before the 7er was launched, I thought the position would be uncomfortable but it actually is perfectly placed.

BruceOmega
05-24-2010, 09:21 AM
JSpira,

The article has this listing:

- Curb weight (lbs) 5137

Is that correct, or a typo?

Thanks
Bruce

JSpira
05-24-2010, 09:29 AM
JSpira,

The article has this listing:

- Curb weight (lbs) 5137

Is that correct, or a typo?

Thanks
Bruce
Typo - it was supposed to be 3938. Odd, because my copy has 3938 but the Web site has the incorrect figure. Thanks.

razzy530
05-25-2010, 02:06 PM
the 5 Series is the best BMW. The E39 5 Series is the best car BMW ever built!! It will be a classic like the 328 is now.

JSpira
05-25-2010, 03:25 PM
the 5 Series is the best BMW. The E39 5 Series is the best car BMW ever built!! It will be a classic like the 328 is now.
Well, the 5er Series is the most profitable, but best is a relative term. The E39 is unlikely to achieve the status of the 328 for many many years, if at all, simply because so many were produced compared to the 328.

TMQ
05-25-2010, 05:41 PM
Yeah, most luxury buyers will find the size of 5 to be enough, and like the multiple options available.

Note that in terms of sales, the 7 often falls behind the S class, the 5 rival the E well, and of course the 3 eats C for lunch. MB makes a lot of money on the high end models.

In terms of design, to each his/her own, but E60 is a very unique design (the E65 was obviously notorious), while E39 and F10 are essentially smaller sausages of the bigger brother. You tell me how interesting they are.

JSpira
05-25-2010, 06:14 PM
Yeah, most luxury buyers will find the size of 5 to be enough, and like the multiple options available.

Note that in terms of sales, the 7 often falls behind the S class, the 5 rival the E well, and of course the 3 eats C for lunch. MB makes a lot of money on the high end models.

In terms of design, to each his/her own, but E60 is a very unique design (the E65 was obviously notorious), while E39 and F10 are essentially smaller sausages of the bigger brother. You tell me how interesting they are.

The 7er has been the category leader recently, not the S-Klasse. High-end models for all of the automotive companies are typically the most profitable. Building them doesn't cost that much more than the less expensive models but they are sold at a higher premium.

Regarding design, E60 was unique but I must admit I never loved it. In fact, I only really began to like it when part of the design was improved by the M Sport bodywork that my 550i had (plus the carbonschwarz metallic color was hard to beat).

razzy530
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Love the article, Mr. Spira!!!
I guess you're right about the "one sausage, three different sizes" theme. Especially when you mentioned the 5er's dash almost directly borrowed from the 7er. Well, as a teenager back in the E38/39 days, I remember saying the same thing to myself while trying out both cars interiors. I only wished to one day have one!!

JSpira
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
Love the article, Mr. Spira!!!
I guess you're right about the "one sausage, three different sizes" theme. Especially when you mentioned the 5er's dash almost directly borrowed from the 7er. Well, as a teenager back in the E38/39 days, I remember saying the same thing to myself while trying out both cars interiors. I only wished to one day have one!!
Danke! And we both got our wish, apparently.