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Plaz
12-11-2003, 05:46 PM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?

WDC330i
12-11-2003, 06:04 PM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?


Sounds a little pricey. For instance, I don't think we could get that for our 2002 330i sedans, unless through a private sale. Being that it's the 2.5 engine and NOT AWD, I think you could do better--say, $28,000 max.

I will add that the little wagon (which we have in the XiT version) is the perfect complement to the somewhat less practical sedan. But the manual trans. sedan is preferred for zippy, engaged driving.

You'll find the wagon more of a slug in almost every way--but only as compared to our overachieving 330i sps. Try any other wagon--or any SUV--and the wagon shines

Kaz
12-11-2003, 06:06 PM
Granted, PP is expensive, but my car cost $30,700 NEW. That's with SP/moonroof/xenon.

But 30-32k is what I've been seeing for CPO Tourings around here, so...

Plaz
12-11-2003, 06:10 PM
Yeah... I'm thinking a "take it or leave it" offer of $30K to get me out the door (tax, lic/reg, etc. all-inclusive) would be a fair offer.

Assuming everything checks out with the vehicle, of course.

·clyde·
12-11-2003, 06:13 PM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?
For a wife that doesn't care too much about cars and hates spending money on them? I probably wouldn't.

Um... :eeps:

Kaz
12-11-2003, 06:15 PM
OK, I think I see it. SG/black leather. That should be a pretty sharp combo.

I'm surprised there are as many wagons (47) as the CPO finder shows.

4 of em are MT, even... :yikes:

I'm shocked that the applet works so well. It even lets you sort ascending or descending by column. I didnt think BMW had it in them to pull that off!

Kaz
12-11-2003, 06:20 PM
OK, I don't know what's wrong with it, but there is a 03 with 4k, white/sand leather PP/AT/fullsize for $30k...

Plaz
12-11-2003, 06:22 PM
For a wife that doesn't care too much about cars and hates spending money on them? I probably wouldn't.

Um... :eeps:


Okay, so what's a better alternative?

I've vetoed the Subies. I just can't stand them. And I will have to drive whatever we get her from time to time.

It seems a low mileage 325iT has a better chance of not having serious mechanical issues than a Passat. Even a new one. I've rarely heard of anyone stranded roadside with an E46 (for non wheel/tire/accident reasons).

Protege is too small. Mazda6 Wagon isn't out yet in the states.

I'm more comfortable with E46 reliability than an A4, and A6 is too expensive new, and not really any better than a Passat substantively.

Volvo V40 is on the way out, and had lukewarm reviews. Wife doesn't like the V70, and it's probably too expensive anyway. V50 not out yet.

Saab? I kind of like them, but my wife doesn't. I'd be hesitant to go the used route with one, TD's success (so far) notwithstanding, and they're silly-overpriced new.

There are no Honda or Toyota wagons anymore. That would have been ideal.

What's left? CPO'd IS300 wagon? Perhaps. But I don't know that's any better vehicle than a CPO'd E46 Touring :dunno:

I'd honestly love to hear what other better options may exist.

EDIT: Please don't say Taurus.

Plaz
12-11-2003, 06:25 PM
OK, I think I see it. SG/black leather. That should be a pretty sharp combo.

I'm surprised there are as many wagons (47) as the CPO finder shows.

4 of em are MT, even... :yikes:

I'm shocked that the applet works so well. It even lets you sort ascending or descending by column. I didnt think BMW had it in them to pull that off!

Yup, that's the one.

Yes, the website has improved lately. It even works properly on a Mac now. :D

Plaz
12-11-2003, 06:27 PM
OK, I don't know what's wrong with it, but there is a 03 with 4k, white/sand leather PP/AT/fullsize for $30k...

Saw that one too... prefer the CWP model and black interior, but that's also worth considering.

zcasavant
12-11-2003, 06:31 PM
Plaz,

SG/black sounds beautiful. I'm sure she would absolutely LOVE it! $30k sounds about right too. This car fits well considering her history of driving cars for more than a decade....it will go forever. That's more than you can say for the Passat, which has serious reliability issues.

I'd say go for it. Unless an old S4 Avant is possible.... :yikes:

·clyde·
12-11-2003, 06:31 PM
CPO E39 wagon. It'll be a year or three older and have a few more miles than an E46, but the E39 wagon can haul a lot more ****, is safer and with the V8, a hell of a lot faster for about the same money.

Plaz
12-11-2003, 06:40 PM
CPO E39 wagon. It'll be a year or three older and have a few more miles than an E46, but the E39 wagon can haul a lot more ****, is safer and with the V8, a hell of a lot faster for about the same money.


Same dealer has a '99 540iA with 37,000 miles for $35K.

I dunno. I'm much more comfortable dropping that kind of bank on a car with 10K miles than a car with nearly 40K miles.

Wife doesn't need faster. Don't need major hauling, just ordinary grocery hauling and the occasional Home Depot run that the sedan can't handle.

Safer? Really? A '99 5 vs. an '02 3?

·clyde·
12-11-2003, 06:48 PM
Same dealer has a '99 540iA with 37,000 miles for $35K.

I dunno. I'm much more comfortable dropping that kind of bank on a car with 10K miles than a car with nearly 40K miles.

Wife doesn't need faster. Don't need major hauling, just ordinary grocery hauling and the occasional Home Depot run that the sedan can't handle.

Safer? Really? A '99 5 vs. an '02 3?
Seems I outedited myself in the last post. You don't need the V8 and based on your characterization, your wife would probably be plenty happy with the 2.5l. If it were me, and I knew that I would be driving it more than on jsut brief occasions, I'd much prefer the V8.

Honestly, the difference between 10k on an E46 325iT and 40k on an E39 540iT wouldn't make much difference to me at the same price point. With the 540 being more a little more expensive, though...I'd probably still opt for it.

From what I remember reading and hearing, the E39 is supposed to offer better occupant protection than the E46. If not true, I'm more than happy to be corrected.

Kaz
12-11-2003, 07:41 PM
I like E39 Tourings too, but they are a bit pricey. And granted, they might hold up better in 10 years than a E46, but a 99 E39 is almost halfway to the decade mark already...

WDC330i
12-11-2003, 09:01 PM
I like E39 Tourings too, but they are a bit pricey. And granted, they might hold up better in 10 years than a E46, but a 99 E39 is almost halfway to the decade mark already...

An E39 of that vintage means either a 528 or a 540. I drove a 1999 528iT when we were looking for a wagon. With 200 plus torque and less weight than the 325XiT, a manual transmission, and the sport suspension, it was great. It had umph like a 330i, and the added room and plushness of a fancier car. Although some parts were kind of dated--like the cup holders. Still it was a fantastic car, and priced around $28,000.

I think a 99 or 2000 528iT would feel like less of a compromise in power than the 2.5 liter E46 and would be a bit of an upgrade both in power and luxuriousness.

The price will be less than a later-model 325iT. And with CPO, you'll still have some warranty.

We ended up with the 325XiT because we needed AWD for our hill in the winter time. We have my 330i Sp for performance. But the wagon is still a nice cruiser, and sporty in her own right.

PhilH
12-11-2003, 10:07 PM
We're waiting another four months when the Mazda 6 wagon will be available in the US. You can't wait four months?

Plaz
12-12-2003, 12:00 AM
An E39 of that vintage means either a 528 or a 540. I drove a 1999 528iT when we were looking for a wagon. With 200 plus torque and less weight than the 325XiT, a manual transmission, and the sport suspension, it was great. It had umph like a 330i, and the added room and plushness of a fancier car. Although some parts were kind of dated--like the cup holders. Still it was a fantastic car, and priced around $28,000.

I think a 99 or 2000 528iT would feel like less of a compromise in power than the 2.5 liter E46 and would be a bit of an upgrade both in power and luxuriousness.

The price will be less than a later-model 325iT. And with CPO, you'll still have some warranty.

We ended up with the 325XiT because we needed AWD for our hill in the winter time. We have my 330i Sp for performance. But the wagon is still a nice cruiser, and sporty in her own right.

She's coming from a '92 Accord wagon with less get up and go than Ronald Reagan. The 325 would be a HUGE upgrade.

Again, I just can't see dropping that amount of cheddar on a car with that many miles and years. I think the 3er is a much safer bet.

Plaz
12-12-2003, 12:01 AM
We're waiting another four months when the Mazda 6 wagon will be available in the US. You can't wait four months?

No, we've waited too long already. To make it another 4 months would mean sinking at least $1000 into the Hondasaur. And that's just wasted money.

TD
12-12-2003, 04:50 AM
For the record (not that it matters), but the Saab 9-5 (1999+) is rated as one of the most reliable cars, better than the E46.

Get one CPO'd and you don't even have to worry about the turbo.

Ben Liaw
12-12-2003, 05:29 AM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?

It took a while to find, but I got a 2002 325iT CPO this summer from the local dealer.

- 15k miles
- Premium Package
- Sport Package
- Leather
- Xenon
- Harmon Kardon
- 5-sp
- CPO

They were ASKING $30k, I got it for $26,700. Plus, as a CCA member, CPO cars get you another $500 rebate.

·clyde·
12-12-2003, 06:16 AM
It took a while to find, but I got a 2002 325iT CPO this summer from the local dealer.

- 15k miles
- Premium Package
- Sport Package
- Leather
- Xenon
- Harmon Kardon
- 5-sp
- CPO

They were ASKING $30k, I got it for $26,700. Plus, as a CCA member, CPO cars get you another $500 rebate.
Thinking of doing anything interesting with it? ;)

WDC330i
12-12-2003, 06:48 AM
Even if it will be primarily her car, I wouldn't underestimate the importance of your liking it, too. You don't have to love it, but you shouldn't hate every minute of driving it.

The 3 wagon will make you happy enough. And if you can get it for under $27,000--you'll be even happier. Drive it into the ground to get your money out of it.

What about ED of a new stripper version?

In the wagon, I am perfectly satisfied with leatherette. No muss, no fuss. If your wife wants an automatic, then just get xenon, step, and non-metallic paint and call it a day. HK in the wagon isn't worth it because there aren't any subwoofers (right?) Regular stereo is just fine.

jw
12-12-2003, 07:16 AM
For the record (not that it matters), but the Saab 9-5 (1999+) is rated as one of the most reliable cars, better than the E46.

Get one CPO'd and you don't even have to worry about the turbo.
I didn't realize that. My wife has been looking at the Pacifica. We took one home last night for a few hours. She loved it! Rather pricey for a fully loaded car, but it made her happy. The 5 star safety rating is something she kept coming back to. Perhaps I can get her to take the Saab for a drive.

Loaded 9-5 Aero wagon w/ auto, Xenon, etc is MSRP ~42k - 4k incentive - ~4k GMS = 34k. Hmmm.... She might be disappointed there is no Nav, however.

·clyde·
12-12-2003, 07:27 AM
I didn't realize that. My wife has been looking at the Pacifica. We took one home last night for a few hours. She loved it! Rather pricey for a fully loaded car, but it made her happy. The 5 star safety rating is something she kept coming back to. Perhaps I can get her to take the Saab for a drive.

Loaded 9-5 Aero wagon w/ auto, Xenon, etc is MSRP ~42k - 4k incentive - ~4k GMS = 34k. Hmmm.... She might be disappointed there is no Nav, however.
And you know that both of them are going to depreciate like falling rocks.

TD
12-12-2003, 07:52 AM
That's why I bought mine used.

I paid approx 50% of original sticker for a 3 year old, 25K mile Aero wagon.

jw
12-12-2003, 07:57 AM
And you know that both of them are going to depreciate like falling rocks.
Which is why I am leasing it for her. As long as the payment is right, I could car less whether we're paying for depreciation or interest.

EdCT
12-12-2003, 08:14 AM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?

Sounds a bit high to me, but have your wife drive one, she'll love it; the step and 2.5 combo is silky smooth.

My wife drives our 95 Accord wagon and loves the bmw, although mine has the "old" steering, which she finds too stiff.

Ed

GSR13
12-12-2003, 09:20 AM
Not that this means anything, but my local dealer has an '01 325iT that is Steel Grey/Grey with 21,842. They are asking $33,900.00 and the car has PP, Heated Seats and Step. It also does not appear to be very clean.

WDC330i
12-12-2003, 09:36 AM
Not that this means anything, but my local dealer has an '01 325iT that is Steel Grey/Grey with 21,842. They are asking $33,900.00 and the car has PP, Heated Seats and Step. It also does not appear to be very clean.

Of course that's a ridiculous price. You can get a new '04 with those options for MSRP under $36,000.

Plaz
12-12-2003, 01:26 PM
Pointless daydreaming about something I'd probably never do....


If we do get this touring, I suppose I could swap the 2.93 diff in my car with the 3.46 in the 325.

The touring would be slower off the line than Wisconsin molasses in January, and my 330 would probably redline at 90mph, but the 330's 1/4 mi. time would probably be awesome!

:rofl:

The HACK
12-12-2003, 01:46 PM
Pointless daydreaming about something I'd probably never do....


If we do get this touring, I suppose I could swap the 2.93 diff in my car with the 3.46 in the 325.

The touring would be slower off the line than Wisconsin molasses in January, and my 330 would probably redline at 90mph, but the 330's 1/4 mi. time would probably be awesome!

:rofl:

That extra 500 rpm you get on the ZJC would make up for the 3.46 diff. Seriously. :thumbup:

You'll still need to execute a 2-3 upshift to get to 60, but f**kin' "a" you'd get there fast.

All kidding aside, have you considered a Merc. E class wagon? Since you're getting an automatic anyway, the E class will be significantly bigger, no?

Kaz
12-12-2003, 01:53 PM
That extra 500 rpm you get on the ZJC would make up for the 3.46 diff. Seriously. :thumbup:

You'll still need to execute a 2-3 upshift to get to 60, but f**kin' "a" you'd get there fast.

All kidding aside, have you considered a Merc. E class wagon? Since you're getting an automatic anyway, the E class will be significantly bigger, no?

I don't hear too many good things about W211 E-class reliability. And I'm sure even old ones aren't cheap.

ZJC on a 330 with a 3.46 just might make it to 60. 2nd on a 330 5MT is 2.49 vs 2.52 in a 325, and 7000rpm on my car will probably get it to 58 or 59, so there might be another mph or two in the different ratio.

The biggest change you'd notice if you did this, though, is that you'll end up doing a lot of maneuvers 1 gear higher than you do now.

Plaz
12-12-2003, 01:53 PM
That extra 500 rpm you get on the ZJC would make up for the 3.46 diff. Seriously. :thumbup:

You'll still need to execute a 2-3 upshift to get to 60, but f**kin' "a" you'd get there fast.

:thumbup:

Of course, the wagon would be slower than a '68 VW microbus. :D

All kidding aside, have you considered a Merc. E class wagon? Since you're getting an automatic anyway, the E class will be significantly bigger, no?

Thought about it, but for the money I'm willing to spend, it would be a high-mileage vehicle. I'm not too crazy about the idea of buying used high-mileage vehicles. Too many idiots out there never change their oil.

That's not a concern with a sub 10K mile vehicle.

Plaz
12-12-2003, 01:56 PM
ZJC on a 330 with a 3.46 just might make it to 60. 2nd on a 330 5MT is 2.49 vs 2.52 in a 325, and 7000rpm on my car will probably get it to 58 or 59, so there might be another mph or two in the different ratio.

The biggest change you'd notice if you did this, though, is that you'll end up doing a lot of maneuvers 1 gear higher than you do now.

Yeah, like starting from a stop. :D

Seriously, I could see dropping a 3.15 in my car, but I think the 3.46 would be too much. Maybe if I had a 6-spd.

Kaz
12-12-2003, 02:00 PM
:thumbup:

Of course, the wagon would be slower than a '68 VW microbus. :D




I had a physics teacher in HS who had a 68 or so Bug and had put a rear end from a microbus in it. Ultimately he built the motor up with more RPMs to make up for it.

sdwolff
12-12-2003, 02:18 PM
I guess I overpaid.

'01 325iT
Titanium/Red
Step/SP/Xenon/Leather/CWP/HK/Power Seat Pack/Moonroof
8,000 miles
$32000.00

No regrets, period!!!!!!

BlackChrome
12-12-2003, 02:48 PM
I guess I overpaid.

'01 325iT
Titanium/Red
Step/SP/Xenon/Leather/CWP/HK/Power Seat Pack/Moonroof
8,000 miles
$32000.00

No regrets, period!!!!!!
That really depends when you bought it.

uter
12-12-2003, 08:39 PM
- < 10,000 miles (!)
- Premium Package
- Cold Weather Package
- Xenon
- Step

$30,000

Sound like a good deal?

We're loving our wagon at 18,000 miles.
Not a single [knock myrtle wood] problem.

The ED discount (a la Ted Walawender) and the 'CCA rebate made it very reasonable.

Euro Delivery, manual tranny, SP/PP/CWP, xenon, navigation, HK

Don't for get $5 for the BMW grocery gripper (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23079)

MG67
12-12-2003, 10:38 PM
I was walking around at the dealer, they had an '03 325it Black on Cinnamon leather with SP / PP with 9,000 miles for $30k... not bad given that I paid $38,500 for mine also with SP / PP, only mine has Black Leather and is Steel Grey...:rolleyes:

Plaz
12-12-2003, 11:29 PM
Well, I've talked her into it. :thumbup:

If it's still there tomorrow when we get there, it's in good shape, and we can come to a reasonable compromise on the price, we'll be driving home a "new" 325iT tomorrow! :D

IndyMike
12-13-2003, 05:35 AM
Well, I've talked her into it. :thumbup:

If it's still there tomorrow when we get there, it's in good shape, and we can come to a reasonable compromise on the price, we'll be driving home a "new" 325iT tomorrow! :D
<img src=http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gif>

It sounds like your wife is as big of an 'enthusiast' as mine is. Mine started out just wanting good, reliable transportation that will get her to the mall and back safely. :tsk: Now after a year of driving 'her' Touring the only time I get to drive it is when we go some place together, or it needs a fill-up.

I'm keeping my fingers (and toes) crossed for you, hoping you'll have a big "Woo-hoo" for us today!

jw
12-13-2003, 06:33 AM
Well, I've talked her into it. :thumbup:

I think I did the same for my wife. Albeit a different car. She was dead set on the Pacifica. Today, I think we'll be bringing home an '04 Saab. :thumbup:

TD
12-13-2003, 07:26 AM
:thumbup: to both Plaz and jw

WDC330i
12-13-2003, 08:03 AM
:thumbup: to both Plaz and jw

Excellent!

Also, I recommend the trunk liner for the iT....

·clyde·
12-13-2003, 10:25 AM
What a day it may be. :)

Plaz
12-13-2003, 06:56 PM
Done deal! :thumbup:

'02 325iT
Steel Grey
Black Leather
Steptronic :rolleyes:
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Xenons
approx. 9750 miles

It was a BMWNA fleet car. Clean carfax, but the CPO documentation shows it had one very mild incident, which resulted in them replacing the hood. I would have never known.

It's more rattle-free than my car. (jealous)

It definitely has more body roll, and is not quite as crisp on turn-in, due to the non-sport suspension and all-season tires.

The 2.5l is more peppy than I expected. Clearly my 330 would blow it away, but it's got very respectable get-up-and-go.

It's got another two years of original warranty/free service, then another two years of CPO protection up to 100,000 miles.

I have to say, the standard mode on the Steptronic really sucks. It takes a lot of pedal play to coax acceleration and downshifts, and when braking gently to a stop, there's a nasty clunk that sounds like it's coming from the differential as the tranny downshifts. Thankfully, in sport mode, those issues disappear entirely. Man, do I hate slushboxes. In sport mode, this one is about as good as it gets, though.

We're thrilled!

http://plaz.net/plaz/plaz-325iT.jpg

SARAFIL
12-13-2003, 07:06 PM
Done deal! :thumbup:

'02 325iT
Steel Grey
Black Leather
Steptronic :rolleyes:
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Xenons
approx. 9750 miles

(snip)

I have to say, the standard mode on the Steptronic really sucks. It takes a lot of pedal play to coax acceleration and downshifts, and when braking gently to a stop, there's a nasty clunk that sounds like it's coming from the differential as the tranny downshifts. Thankfully, in sport mode, those issues disappear entirely. Man, do I hate slushboxes. In sport mode, this one is about as good as it gets, though.

We're thrilled!

http://plaz.net/plaz/plaz-325iT.jpg

Nice specs!!! Sure, it might feel slow, but that is only because you own a 330i ZJC. Everyone knows the ZJC is just sooo fast that anything else would feel like a weakling. ;)

Good job on convincing a self-proclaimed non-enthusiast in to a BMW driver! I'm sure she'll never drive anything else after getting used to that car! Maybe she'll even want a stick and Sport Package on her next one! ;) Ok-- wishful thinking, I guess.

The Roadstergal
12-13-2003, 07:18 PM
:clap:

Lovely!

·clyde·
12-13-2003, 07:40 PM
Congrats to Mrs. Plaz. :thumbup:

IndyMike
12-13-2003, 07:44 PM
Done deal! :thumbup:

'02 325iT
Steel Grey
Black Leather
Steptronic :rolleyes:
Premium Package
Cold Weather Package
Xenons
approx. 9750 miles

It definitely has more body roll, and is not quite as crisp on turn-in, due to the non-sport suspension and all-season tires.

The 2.5l is more peppy than I expected. Clearly my 330 would blow it away, but it's got very respectable get-up-and-go.

I have to say, the standard mode on the Steptronic really sucks. It takes a lot of pedal play to coax acceleration and downshifts, and when braking gently to a stop, there's a nasty clunk that sounds like it's coming from the differential as the tranny downshifts. Thankfully, in sport mode, those issues disappear entirely. Man, do I hate slushboxes. In sport mode, this one is about as good as it gets, though.

We're thrilled![/IMG]
:clap:

Congrats, dude! :thumbup:

I agree that the 2.5 is much more than adequate. A lot of people talk smack about it, but it's got some spunk.

And while SP would have been nice, let's face it your wife would never have come close to experiencing it's limits. My wife doesn't come close to putting hers through its paces.

And SG & OB are my two favorite E46 colors, and you have them both in one stable. :bow:

PhilH
12-13-2003, 07:55 PM
Congrats! That sounds like a good price for a car with so few miles.

I really didn't think you'd be able to do it. Although I got close, I couldn't quite convince my non-enthusiast wife to get an E46.

Aren't you considering moving back east? If you get snows for the fleet, you might wind up with 16 wheels & tires (then again, without much effort I'm up to 16 tires and 12 wheels for our two cars).

Plaz
12-13-2003, 09:26 PM
Thanks guys and gal.

My wife's better off without the SP, I think. She occasionally as a passenger remarks that she wishes my car was a little less jarring over rough roads. Though I do have S-03s at 40psi mounted.

And, as mentioned, she's never going to miss the performance advantages at the fringes of adhesion... she doesn't drive that way at all. The car is still very well balanced, more than adequately equipped for emergency maneuvers, and not American-style sloppy at all.

I'm pretty amazed at how bad those "standard" settings are on the steptronic, though... practically undriveable IMO. The sport mode is fine.

Is that programmed that way to meet ULEV standards, you think?

And yes, I think we will end up with 16 wheels. :eeps:

jw
12-13-2003, 10:06 PM
Congrats, Plaz!

The dealer let me take a 9-5 Aero out for 3-4 hours and my wife and I decided on the Saab. The color she wanted is at another dealership so we'll have to wait until Monday. All in all, it's not too shabby. And faster than my 330i. :confused: You can really feel the turbo kick in. Thankfully with the 4k incentives combined w/ GM family pricing, we'll be getting a killer deal! Lease payments should be right around $400.

Plaz
12-13-2003, 10:09 PM
Congrats, Plaz!

The dealer let me take a 9-5 Aero out for 3-4 hours and my wife and I decided on the Saab. The color she wanted is at another dealership so we'll have to wait until Monday. All in all, it's not too shabby. And faster than my 330i. :confused: You can really feel the turbo kick in. Thankfully with the 4k incentives combined w/ GM family pricing, we'll be getting a killer deal! Lease payments should be right around $400.

Sweet! Congrats!

Kaz
12-13-2003, 10:45 PM
Excellent! You're welcome to root around my garage for parts. :eeps:

The SULEV thing started for MY03 so that's probably not it. But my drivetrain clunks too, if that's any consolation.

Plaz
12-13-2003, 11:05 PM
I was just made aware of the popular "Steptronic clunk" TSBs... I'll have to get the fix applied and drive the car again to fairly evaluate the standard program.

:thumbup:

Plaz
12-13-2003, 11:19 PM
Excellent! You're welcome to root around my garage for parts. :eeps:

Thanks!

Hell, I bet you could probably build a new one with your parts inventory!

:rofl:

Terry Kennedy
12-13-2003, 11:56 PM
Done deal! :thumbup:

We're thrilled!Congratulations. Next, you'll have to show her these pics (http://www.tmk.com/bmw) and see what mods she wants :D.

Plaz
12-14-2003, 02:24 AM
Congratulations. Next, you'll have to show her these pics (http://www.tmk.com/bmw) and see what mods she wants :D.

Wow, dude, that is a serious shaggin' wagon. :thumbup:

Terry Kennedy
12-14-2003, 03:38 AM
Wow, dude, that is a serious shaggin' wagon. :thumbup:Thanks. Gives a new meaning to "make me one with everything", doesn't it... :D

BlackChrome
12-14-2003, 03:58 AM
It's got another two years of original warranty/free service, then another two years of CPO protection up to 100,000 miles.


It's like buying a new car! :)

Congrats!!!

Ben Liaw
12-14-2003, 06:25 AM
I agree that the 2.5 is much more than adequate. A lot of people talk smack about it, but it's got some spunk.


With the standard 3.46 and 5-speed, the 2.5 does do a pretty good job.

Now, after the S54 transplant and 6-speed...I wouldn't use the word adequate anymore. :yumyum:

WDC330i
12-14-2003, 07:01 AM
I was just made aware of the popular "Steptronic clunk" TSBs... I'll have to get the fix applied and drive the car again to fairly evaluate the standard program.

:thumbup:

The TSB fix helps the clunk. Also, you'll notice if you drive the wagon more frequently that the step will adapt to your lead foot. It'll start holding the gear up to 4,000 rpms and will start off in first gear....

The HACK
12-14-2003, 11:07 AM
If you'd like my 7 spoke 44 wheels (with CSC-IIs, ~70% tread left) with some curb rash thrown in for free, we can work out a good deal for them?

Way to go Plaz.

Plaz
12-14-2003, 12:21 PM
If you'd like my 7 spoke 44 wheels (with CSC-IIs, ~70% tread left) with some curb rash thrown in for free, we can work out a good deal for them?

Way to go Plaz.

:rofl:

I think I'll wait until we're actually sure we're moving before I go wheel shopping. I'll probably wait until we actually move... would be silly to transport them cross-country unnecessarily.

Unfortunately, we didn't have the option to do so for the car itself.

(BTW, I won't be able to make it out there today... yesterday's car buying festivities left us with way too much stuff to take care of today. Tell Raffi "Thanks" though.)

EdCT
12-14-2003, 05:28 PM
:rofl:

I think I'll wait until we're actually sure we're moving before I go wheel shopping. I'll probably wait until we actually move... would be silly to transport them cross-country unnecessarily.

Unfortunately, we didn't have the option to do so for the car itself.

(BTW, I won't be able to make it out there today... yesterday's car buying festivities left us with way too much stuff to take care of today. Tell Raffi "Thanks" though.)

You crafty devil, you. I know the real reason for the new bimmer: you got tired of hauling your bass rig around in the old accord, eh.:)

Ed :thumbup:

Plaz
12-14-2003, 05:35 PM
You crafty devil, you. I know the real reason for the new bimmer: you got tired of hauling your bass rig around in the old accord, eh.:)


I knew you'd see through me like an untinted hatchback window. :D

Plaz
12-14-2003, 07:26 PM
Took 'er for a family cruise today to do some shopping, and get some lunch.

It's raining in SoCal, so I thought it would be interesting to observe the handling of the "new" 325iT in the wet stuff. All seasons were plenty grippy enough. Not S-03 grippy, but more than adequate.

Spotted an Alpina Blue/Topaz supercharged paddle.shifting blur streak past me on the 10 West... I waved, but I don't think there was time for the blur to notice, given the certain visual distortions that must accompany travel at near-relativistic speeds. :D

After shopping and lunch, we took a leisurely drive through the canyons. Malibu Canyon Rd., Piuma, Scheuren, Stunt, and Mulholland Hwy. The suspension, tires, and steptronic all proved to be more than competent in keeping this little cruise missile glued to the pavement.

Believe it or not, I think I'm witnessing a transformation. My wife is now seeming to actually be interested and engaged when I blather on about racing lines, apexes, braking before turn-in, sidewall stiffness, etc., rather than just glazing over and nodding her head obligingly. She even asked if upgraded sway bars would decrease body roll on the wagon, without prompting. We weren't even talking about sways beforehand. :yikes: :D :thumbup:

(she also said she thinks she notices a little DBW throttle lag.) Doh!

SARAFIL
12-14-2003, 07:31 PM
Believe it or not, I think I'm witnessing a transformation. My wife is now seeming to actually be interested and engaged when I blather on about racing lines, apexes, braking before turn-in, sidewall stiffness, etc., rather than just glazing over and nodding her head obligingly. She even asked if upgraded sway bars would decrease body roll on the wagon, without prompting. We weren't even talking about sways beforehand. :yikes: :D :thumbup:

(she also said she thinks she notices a little DBW throttle lag.) Doh!

:D

:thumbup:

Way to go!! You just wait and see-- you'll make an enthusiast out of her soon enough. Just be careful that she doesn't end up stealing the 330i from you!

Plaz
12-14-2003, 07:32 PM
:D

:thumbup:

Way to go!! You just wait and see-- you'll make an enthusiast out of her soon enough. Just be careful that she doesn't end up stealing the 330i from you!

She'll have to learn to drive a manual before that can happen. :eeps:

AB
12-14-2003, 07:51 PM
Looks good, Plaz. Congrats to you and your family on your new hauler.

dlloyd1975
12-15-2003, 10:06 AM
Believe it or not, I think I'm witnessing a transformation. My wife is now seeming to actually be interested and engaged when I blather on about racing lines, apexes, braking before turn-in, sidewall stiffness, etc., rather than just glazing over and nodding her head obligingly. She even asked if upgraded sway bars would decrease body roll on the wagon, without prompting. We weren't even talking about sways beforehand. :yikes: :D :thumbup:


This is exactly what happened with my wife. She loves the car.

It snowed her Saturday. We would have gone out for a little donut action (the WinterSport M2s are great in the stuff, BTW), but at 5 months pregnant, whenever the pretensioners tighten up the belts, it makes her feel a bit uncomfortable. :D