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highyo
01-10-2011, 06:56 PM
Does anyone have an opinion about baby seats for the f10? My goose may be cooked if i cant fit something in the back. The previous post talked about fold down rear seats which i passed on. Does anyone have brands that fit well?

Help!

Gator550
01-10-2011, 07:05 PM
I am in the booster seat years so maybe this isn't yet relevant for your situation, but my Britax Frontier 85 (http://www.britaxusa.com/car-seats/frontier-85) fits pretty well. It is a pretty big seat and it fits without needing to remove the headrest.

SANguru
01-10-2011, 07:31 PM
Does anyone have an opinion about baby seats for the f10? My goose may be cooked if i cant fit something in the back. The previous post talked about fold down rear seats which i passed on. Does anyone have brands that fit well?

Help!

The britax runs really tall but is one of the best rated child seat. I swapped with my wife who has the maxi cosi that runs quite a bit lower and can be reclined.

here's the one we have

http://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Priori-Convertible-Roasted-Brown/dp/B0034ZUC74

brott
01-10-2011, 07:37 PM
No kids here....however we do have two grandsons ages one and three which we adore!!!

We have a Britax Boulevard and use the Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat to protect the seats (used this combo on our E60 since 2008 and never had a problem)

Emilner
01-10-2011, 07:41 PM
I have had a Britax Marathon in there on a few occasions. It fits great if you remove the headrest...

kaysid
01-10-2011, 07:43 PM
I have had a Britax Marathon in there on a few occasions. It fits great if you remove the headrest...

Same here, have it in there as a spare. Also had to remove the headrests.

xDrive Canuck
01-10-2011, 08:13 PM
Good thread....also, what do people put down on their seats to protect the leather 1. From the kiddo and 2. From the base/seat imprinting the leather?

brott
01-10-2011, 09:31 PM
Good thread....also, what do people put down on their seats to protect the leather 1. From the kiddo and 2. From the base/seat imprinting the leather?

Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Kids-Ultra-Mat-Gray/dp/B001P0739A

salamigs
01-10-2011, 09:41 PM
We have a Britax Boulevard and a Britax Frontier 85, both of which fit in the back. The Frontier requires the headrest to be removed, while the other is fine with it. Currently I have the Boulevard in the F10, and the Frontier in the SUV.

For the protection of the leather, I use Prince Lionheart products. They have a discontinued model, which is great, if you can find that one, just purchase it. But it was discontinued couple years back, and the one that replaced it is not too bad either. We have both, but the F10 uses the discontinued one, which works perfectly well especially on protecting soft leather.

And remember to use a seat back protector for the front seats, saving them from the scuff marks of those little cute shoes :)

salamigs
01-10-2011, 09:47 PM
Here is how the Boulevard looks in there.

ProudPapa
01-10-2011, 10:08 PM
And remember to use a seat back protector for the front seats, saving them from the scuff marks of those little cute shoes :)[/QUOTE]

Where do you find the seat back protector? Thanks

solstice
01-10-2011, 10:09 PM
We have the throne of all seats...the Britax regent. They are huge but fits easily with the headrests removed which was easy once someone read the manual and informed that you need to pull forward to get them out. I still don't like that the tether anchor is so close to the backrest, it makes the triangle fixture that Britax uses too wide for a truly secure fit.

EvolutionTheory
01-10-2011, 11:23 PM
Is it impossible to fit a seat in the middle? A booster seat that is..

blackhawk_pilot
01-10-2011, 11:59 PM
Is it impossible to fit a seat in the middle? A booster seat that is..

Not at all true. That's where I fit out baby seat so that the two teenagers seat on the window side. And to be quite honest the middle is the best place for a baby seat on this car. Asides from safety considerations, it also leaves enough room for two more passengers to ride comfortably on each side.

EvolutionTheory
01-11-2011, 12:12 AM
Not at all true. That's where I fit out baby seat so that the two teenagers seat on the window side. And to be quite honest the middle is the best place for a baby seat on this car. Asides from safety considerations, it also leaves enough room for two more passengers to ride comfortably on each side.

Excellent! What brand/model of car seat are you using in the center?

blackhawk_pilot
01-11-2011, 12:21 AM
Its similar to this one but a bit bigger. The trick here is to get the seat without the bulky arm rest or cup holders in it. 2-3 year olds don't use them anyways.
http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Kids-Radian65-Convertible-Seat/dp/B000G7YM06

EvolutionTheory
01-11-2011, 01:17 AM
Its similar to this one but a bit bigger. The trick here is to get the seat without the bulky arm rest or cup holders in it. 2-3 year olds don't use them anyways.
http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Kids-Radian65-Convertible-Seat/dp/B000G7YM06

Thanks!

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 05:45 AM
We have a Britax Boulevard and a Britax Frontier 85, both of which fit in the back. The Frontier requires the headrest to be removed, while the other is fine with it. Currently I have the Boulevard in the F10, and the Frontier in the SUV.

For the protection of the leather, I use Prince Lionheart products. They have a discontinued model, which is great, if you can find that one, just purchase it. But it was discontinued couple years back, and the one that replaced it is not too bad either. We have both, but the F10 uses the discontinued one, which works perfectly well especially on protecting soft leather.

And remember to use a seat back protector for the front seats, saving them from the scuff marks of those little cute shoes :)

I have used the Prince Lionheart protectors for 4 years now. I just switched out my Britax Boulevard for a Britax Parkway SG and while the seat was heavily indented, it popped back after about 2 days with nary a mark on the leather. :thumbup:

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 05:46 AM
Here is how the Boulevard looks in there.

Is that snugged all the way down, or just put in? It does not look like you've got the seat ratcheted down tight enough. Your cushion should be heavily indented from the seat pressing into it.

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 05:47 AM
Does anyone have an opinion about baby seats for the f10? My goose may be cooked if i cant fit something in the back. The previous post talked about fold down rear seats which i passed on. Does anyone have brands that fit well?

Help!

What type of seat, forward or rear facing?

Also, the fold down seats are only useful for making it easier to take the rear headrests out which 1) is still possible without them and 2) may not be an issue depending on your seat.

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 05:49 AM
And remember to use a seat back protector for the front seats, saving them from the scuff marks of those little cute shoes :)

Where do you find the seat back protector? Thanks[/QUOTE]

You can find them at any store that sells car seats. I just have one that straps around and is like a lightweight canvas / heavy nylon.

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 05:55 AM
No kids here....however we do have two grandsons ages one and three which we adore!!!

We have a Britax Boulevard and use the Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat to protect the seats (used this combo on our E60 since 2008 and never had a problem)

This seat is improperly installed.

The base should fit flat against the seat. Right now, you've only got the front edge sitting against the seat. This is not a good thing.

Also, with the exception of a single layer of towel or a protective mat designed to be placed between the child seat and the vehicle's seat, you shouldn't have anything nearly as thick as what you have placed behind there.

Third, your seat is not tightened down enough. If it were, you would see the child seat pressing into the vehicle's seat cushion a LOT more than it is.

I don't mean to be harsh, just trying to keep your grandkids safe!

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 06:02 AM
Its similar to this one but a bit bigger. The trick here is to get the seat without the bulky arm rest or cup holders in it. 2-3 year olds don't use them anyways.
http://www.amazon.com/Sunshine-Kids-Radian65-Convertible-Seat/dp/B000G7YM06

The Sunshine Kids seats are great....if you can get them to fit! They way they are designed they are VERY tricky to get installed properly. Read reviews on them online and you will be shocked. Even professionally certified installers have trouble getting them to properly anchor. I had a Radian 85 and after much ado got it to sit properly. However, my wife did not like the lack of side support (this was the older version) and we exchanged it for another Boulevard.

salamigs
01-11-2011, 07:54 AM
No problem. Most likely the pictures are misleading you. There is nothing between the car seat and the seat other than the protector and the installation was done by professionals (ranked #1 in the state) and double checked by the local fire department. So it is safe so far.
I am saying so far because eventually I will take it off and I hope I can get their help to put it back in at that time.
Thanks.

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 09:32 AM
No problem. Most likely the pictures are misleading you. There is nothing between the car seat and the seat other than the protector and the installation was done by professionals (ranked #1 in the state) and double checked by the local fire department. So it is safe so far.
I am saying so far because eventually I will take it off and I hope I can get their help to put it back in at that time.
Thanks.

Sounds good. It is tough to view in that picutre, but I would have expected the cushion to be really compressed.

brott
01-11-2011, 09:51 AM
This seat is improperly installed.

The base should fit flat against the seat. Right now, you've only got the front edge sitting against the seat. This is not a good thing.

Also, with the exception of a single layer of towel or a protective mat designed to be placed between the child seat and the vehicle's seat, you shouldn't have anything nearly as thick as what you have placed behind there.

Third, your seat is not tightened down enough. If it were, you would see the child seat pressing into the vehicle's seat cushion a LOT more than it is.

I don't mean to be harsh, just trying to keep your grandkids safe!

Needsdecaf.....no problem and agreed and my bad as I had just transferred from our Escalade to the F10 and did not take the time to remove the headrest and "properly" secure the car seat.

We won't see our 3 year old grandson till this weekend so was just being lazy till I had more time.

Also I only use the Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat and nothing else between car seat and seat.

Cheers! :thumbup:

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 10:20 AM
Needsdecaf.....no problem and agreed and my bad as I had just transferred from our Escalade to the F10 and did not take the time to remove the headrest and "properly" secure the car seat.

We won't see our 3 year old grandson till this weekend so was just being lazy till I had more time.

Also I only use the Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat and nothing else between car seat and seat.

Cheers! :thumbup:

No problem.

Sorry if I come across as a safety nut, I am not, with the exception of this area. I have seen too many people "install" child seats improperly not realizing what harm it can do in an accident. I was talking to a parent in my son's class this weekend and he told me he had been hit broadside with his two kids in the car and the car ended up barrel rolling 7 times before coming to rest on it's roof. The kids were fine, hanging by their car seats.

brott
01-11-2011, 10:34 AM
No problem.

Sorry if I come across as a safety nut, I am not, with the exception of this area. I have seen too many people "install" child seats improperly not realizing what harm it can do in an accident. I was talking to a parent in my son's class this weekend and he told me he had been hit broadside with his two kids in the car and the car ended up barrel rolling 7 times before coming to rest on it's roof. The kids were fine, hanging by their car seats.

Wowsa.....and agree 1000%.....you can never be too safe!

PoleApart
01-11-2011, 11:18 AM
I'm curious, do US market cars get ISOFIX mounting points for baby seats or is it a Europe only thing? With ISOFIX the baby seats are properly locked into recessed mounting points rather than using the seatbelt but a pain in the backside to remove if you need to fit adults in the back.

brott
01-11-2011, 11:24 AM
I'm curious, do US market cars get ISOFIX mounting points for baby seats or is it a Europe only thing? With ISOFIX the baby seats are properly locked into recessed mounting points rather than using the seatbelt but a pain in the backside to remove if you need to fit adults in the back.

Yes for the US and ISOFIX

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/technology_guide/articles/isofix.html

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 12:11 PM
Yes for the US and ISOFIX

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/technology/technology_guide/articles/isofix.html

We have LATCH in the US. It is roughly the same, but slightly different.

Main difference in the connectors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isofix

highyo
01-11-2011, 01:34 PM
We have LATCH in the US. It is roughly the same, but slightly different.

Main difference in the connectors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isofix

i guess i should have been more specific. i am having a baby in June. i think i will be needing a convertible seat or one of those seats that has the base which stays. as you can tell, i am a newbie, first kid..

Needsdecaf
01-11-2011, 01:53 PM
i guess i should have been more specific. i am having a baby in June. i think i will be needing a convertible seat or one of those seats that has the base which stays. as you can tell, i am a newbie, first kid..

Well, there are advantages to both. I'll give you kind of a synopsis:

Detachable base seat. Selling point: versatility. You can buy one seat, two bases. The seat can snap into a variety of strollers, and you can take the seat out of the car with the kid in it. Very handy. We have taken / do take our kids everywhere in it. Throw it in a shopping cart, throw it in a booth at the restaurant, etc. If you have a fixed-base convertible seat, you cannot do this.

Fixed base convertible: selling point: longevity. You need one seat for each car. Trust me, you are not swapping the seat from car to car. But it can be used from birth until about 4.5 to 5 years old, if so desired. You can then go right to a BPS (belt positioning booster) and save yourself some dough. Otherwise you need to buy two fixed base seats AND a detachable base seat. Another con with this seat is that rearward facing, it's about as big as you can get.

For me, since you only have one kid, I'd buy a tote-around detachable seat like the Graco Safe Seat or Snug ride, or another system like that. I have the Safe seat and would not buy it again only as it is a tad on the wide side. But I won't ever be buying one again so that's neither here nor there. When we had one kid, we had it installed in the middle rear, so that it fit between the two front seats. That way it won't impact front seat legroom. Right now, we cannot use our Volvo as we have the rear-facing seat behind the passenger seat, and there is no legroom in front...and this is a WAGON.

With the multi-contour seats, you may be in better luck if you decide to install behind one of the seats, as you can tilt the top forward.

highyo
01-11-2011, 02:10 PM
Well, there are advantages to both. I'll give you kind of a synopsis:

Detachable base seat. Selling point: versatility. You can buy one seat, two bases. The seat can snap into a variety of strollers, and you can take the seat out of the car with the kid in it. Very handy. We have taken / do take our kids everywhere in it. Throw it in a shopping cart, throw it in a booth at the restaurant, etc. If you have a fixed-base convertible seat, you cannot do this.

Fixed base convertible: selling point: longevity. You need one seat for each car. Trust me, you are not swapping the seat from car to car. But it can be used from birth until about 4.5 to 5 years old, if so desired. You can then go right to a BPS (belt positioning booster) and save yourself some dough. Otherwise you need to buy two fixed base seats AND a detachable base seat. Another con with this seat is that rearward facing, it's about as big as you can get.

For me, since you only have one kid, I'd buy a tote-around detachable seat like the Graco Safe Seat or Snug ride, or another system like that. I have the Safe seat and would not buy it again only as it is a tad on the wide side. But I won't ever be buying one again so that's neither here nor there. When we had one kid, we had it installed in the middle rear, so that it fit between the two front seats. That way it won't impact front seat legroom. Right now, we cannot use our Volvo as we have the rear-facing seat behind the passenger seat, and there is no legroom in front...and this is a WAGON.

With the multi-contour seats, you may be in better luck if you decide to install behind one of the seats, as you can tilt the top forward.

thank you, this is a great response. as my wife is tiny, i'm not sure we will need to put the detachable in the middle of the car.

thanks again.

solstice
01-11-2011, 02:28 PM
I'd recommend the middle of the car to keep the baby as far from potential crumble zones and glass as possible. We have a Peg Perego with detachable base and a stroller that the seat snaps into. It's convenient but the kid quickly outgrows it.

SANguru
01-11-2011, 04:03 PM
1st off - Congrats!!

like needsdecaf says, buy different bases for different cars. You don't want to wake them up to take them out of the car since sleep is important! 2nd is reverse facing car seats for infants might bump up against the back of the seat if you are tall. It's much easier if it's in the middle from my experience (at least that I can remember from the lack of sleep!)

The peg perego's are nice. You definitely want to buy one that's comfortable to carry but the base not too big.

ihumphrey
01-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Good thread...we originally had a graco infant seat and 2 bases, one for each car. When the baby got older (now 14 mos.) we went to a safety 1st convertible seat. It fits no problem behind the passenger seat (with comfort seats). On another note, we love the BMW rear seat protector underneath the seat. It protects the whole seat and footwell from the baby. I also have a dog who rarely goes in the bimmer but it works great for him as well. It has access spots for seat belts/dog harness and to get to the latch anchors. It is pricey, but the perfect fit is totally worth it to us. The kid and dog never even sniff the rear seat leather!

brott
01-13-2011, 08:09 PM
Needsdecaf.....no problem and agreed and my bad as I had just transferred from our Escalade to the F10 and did not take the time to remove the headrest and "properly" secure the car seat.

We won't see our 3 year old grandson till this weekend so was just being lazy till I had more time.

Also I only use the Sunshine Kids Ultra Mat and nothing else between car seat and seat.

Cheers! :thumbup:

Picking up one of our Grandson tomorrow.....headrest removed and car seat properly secured :thumbup:

(If we knew grandkids were so much fun we would have had them first :))

Needsdecaf
01-14-2011, 04:31 AM
LOL, my dad says the same thing.

That's a great seat, my son loved being in it until just recently.

Keep 'em safe! :thumbup:

dsteve
01-14-2011, 08:42 AM
Just FYI. We have a Peg Perego 30/30 infant seat that we were using in the middle of our 2011 550i.

The base is wide enough that it interferes with the ability to buckle the left and right rear seat belts - it mostly covers the little slots that the buckle receptacles sit in.

I tried pulling on the receptacles to see if they come out of their slots - it didn't seem like they did. Does anyone know if they come out at all? If not, I'd take a look at the bases of the models you are comparing to make sure you don't get one that's too wide.

We've since switched to a convertible car seat since our daughter was outgrowing the seat, anyway.

Ralph1201
09-17-2012, 02:54 PM
Well, there are advantages to both. I'll give you kind of a synopsis:

Detachable base seat. Selling point: versatility. You can buy one seat, two bases. The seat can snap into a variety of strollers, and you can take the seat out of the car with the kid in it. Very handy. We have taken / do take our kids everywhere in it. Throw it in a shopping cart, throw it in a booth at the restaurant, etc. If you have a fixed-base convertible seat, you cannot do this.

Fixed base convertible: selling point: longevity. You need one seat for each car. Trust me, you are not swapping the seat from car to car. But it can be used from birth until about 4.5 to 5 years old, if so desired. You can then go right to a BPS (belt positioning booster) and save yourself some dough. Otherwise you need to buy two fixed base seats AND a detachable base seat. Another con with this seat is that rearward facing, it's about as big as you can get.

For me, since you only have one kid, I'd buy a tote-around detachable seat like the Graco Safe Seat or Snug ride, or another system like that. I have the Safe seat and would not buy it again only as it is a tad on the wide side. But I won't ever be buying one again so that's neither here nor there. When we had one kid, we had it installed in the middle rear, so that it fit between the two front seats. That way it won't impact front seat legroom. Right now, we cannot use our Volvo as we have the rear-facing seat behind the passenger seat, and there is no legroom in front...and this is a WAGON.

With the multi-contour seats, you may be in better luck if you decide to install behind one of the seats, as you can tilt the top forward.

ok, let me make sure that i understood it correctly - F10 specific.

Prerequisite : Prince Lionheart Seat Saver (http://www.amazon.com/Prince-Lionheart-Basix-Seat-Saver/dp/B003I85VAK/ref=sr_1_7?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1347917824&sr=1-7)

1) Age 0 to 1
While in the car : Infant Car Seat Base + Infant Car Seat (Graco SnugRide etc)
While shopping : Stroller + Infant Car Seat

2) Age 1 to 7
While in the car : New Booster Seat (Britax Boulevard etc)
While shopping : Old Stroller

Am i right, Needs?

Decboy
09-17-2012, 04:50 PM
We reused the car seat we got from Mercedes for our E class we had. It's called Mercedes Duo Plus but it's actually made by Britax for Mercedes. It is a European Model. It is a convertible car seat that fits up to 70 lbs. I like how it is compact and not too high.

My wife's X5 has the Britax Frontier 85.

Needsdecaf
09-17-2012, 05:33 PM
ok, let me make sure that i understood it correctly - F10 specific.

Prerequisite : Prince Lionheart Seat Saver (http://www.amazon.com/Prince-Lionheart-Basix-Seat-Saver/dp/B003I85VAK/ref=sr_1_7?s=baby-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1347917824&sr=1-7)

1) Age 0 to 1
While in the car : Infant Car Seat Base + Infant Car Seat (Graco SnugRide etc)
While shopping : Stroller + Infant Car Seat

2) Age 1 to 7
While in the car : New Booster Seat (Britax Boulevard etc)
While shopping : Old Stroller

Am i right, Needs?

You got it!

Ralph1201
09-17-2012, 07:36 PM
You got it!

passed the viva voce!

woohoo!! :roundel:

Alecop
09-18-2012, 10:12 AM
I went gulp about 6.5 months back...Britax ADVOCATE 70-G3 fits in back. I put it in the rear passanger seat...It is a little tight on the leg room up front. I also put a seat protector under it.

Will Pwr
09-21-2012, 02:34 PM
I use both the Recaro ProSport and Recaro Vivo in the F10 with great results. I do also use the Prince Lionheart seat saver with the Prosport as well.

Ralph1201
09-23-2012, 11:35 AM
OK, this Ohio rule is confusing me.

1. If your child is under 1 year and under 20 pounds, he must be in a rear-facing child seat.

- Understood. Infant Car Seat Base + Infant Car Seat

2. If your child is at least 1 and weighs more than 20 pounds, he can ride in a forward-facing seat until he grows out of that seat.

whats this? is there anyway i can club 1 into 2 or 2 into 3? if not, what exactly is this intermediate seat between Infant Car seat and Booster Seat.

3. If your child weighs over 40 pounds, he must ride in a booster seat - until he is 8 years old, or is at least 4'9" tall.

- Understood.