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alpinewhite325i
03-10-2004, 04:41 PM
While there were many discussions about this tire in the archives, I still have yet to see anyone comment on how these tires are holding up. I am probably going to purchase a set of these within the next few days and would like some last minute comments on durability, handling degredation as tire wears, and noise.

Thanks!

Pinecone
03-11-2004, 05:04 AM
I don't think anyone has had them long enough.

stan1911
03-11-2004, 10:36 AM
I don't think anyone has had them long enough.

Had mine for a couple of weeks now and a couple of hundred miles on them. My Z3 is a weekender, pleasure cruiser, not a daily driver. I replaced the tires that were on the car when I bought it -- Surpassa Maxx, which I never heard of before and have no idea who makes them.
Compared to those tires, the F1's are a real pleasure to roll on. I don't drive very hard but do take the opportunity to whizz thru onramps (just about the only roads in my area that aren't straight as a rifle shot). They are amazingly sticky AND much more comfortable than what was on the car. I feel like I took off hard leather soled shoes(w/o the cushy inserts) and got into shoes with thick crepe soles. And these F1's have looks to match.
Roadnoise from the tires use to drown out wind noise and just about everything else.
I think my hearing is returning ....
I'm considering getting a set for my 528i or a set of Pirelli All Seasons...

alpinewhite325i
03-11-2004, 11:45 AM
Had mine for a couple of weeks now and a couple of hundred miles on them. My Z3 is a weekender, pleasure cruiser, not a daily driver. I replaced the tires that were on the car when I bought it -- Surpassa Maxx, which I never heard of before and have no idea who makes them.
Compared to those tires, the F1's are a real pleasure to roll on. I don't drive very hard but do take the opportunity to whizz thru onramps (just about the only roads in my area that aren't straight as a rifle shot). They are amazingly sticky AND much more comfortable than what was on the car. I feel like I took off hard leather soled shoes(w/o the cushy inserts) and got into shoes with thick crepe soles. And these F1's have looks to match.
Roadnoise from the tires use to drown out wind noise and just about everything else.
I think my hearing is returning ....
I'm considering getting a set for my 528i or a set of Pirelli All Seasons...

This is basically the consensus on these tires.

Just a note about the Tire Racks price of $124 per tire (non sport). An acquaitance of ours who owns a tire shop told us that he can't even come close to that. He pays $122 per tire WHOLESALE.

**Gary@tirerack; I'm ready to order and would be happy to go through you. Let me know what I need to do, ie reference your name while ordering. It's the least I can do considering all the good info you've shared with us 'festers. :thumbup: **

Gary@Tirerack
03-12-2004, 05:50 AM
This is basically the consensus on these tires.

Just a note about the Tire Racks price of $124 per tire (non sport). An acquaitance of ours who owns a tire shop told us that he can't even come close to that. He pays $122 per tire WHOLESALE.

**Gary@tirerack; I'm ready to order and would be happy to go through you. Let me know what I need to do, ie reference your name while ordering. It's the least I can do considering all the good info you've shared with us 'festers. :thumbup: **

Thanks for asking. :thumbup: When you order online at http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AB2&url=index.jsp and reference 'gary/bimmerfest' as your previous contact, a portion of the proceeds go to support the Bimmerfest web site (and the boss gives me a pat on the back).

stan1911
03-19-2004, 10:19 AM
You might want to find an installer that has a Hunter GSP9700 tire Vibration Control System rig. I bought my 16" Goodyear F1's from Tirerack, who sent them to my local recomended installer. I went to the installer and got them mounted. All seemed well.
2 Weeks later, I took my Z3 weekender on a trip to Tulsa und used the Turnpike. Very nice smooth 100 miles of roadway. I noticed a flutter that grew to tire dribbling vibration coming from the rear starting at 75+ mph and just got worse, with the front end starting to vibrate at 85+. I couldnt tell I had a problem until I ran on smooth roads at higher speeds.
I called the local installer and asked about a more stringent or highspeed balancing. He told me their gear is good to 65mph, the legal speed limit. He went on to tell me *DEALERS* have special mounting equipment to mount tires at much higher pressures. I thought he was blowing smoke up my tailpipe, but later, I realized he may have been referring to a Hunter GSP9700, which he does not have.

I pulled up the Hunter website at http://209.176.154.132/ , None of the Tirerack recommended installers in my area had one. I found a shop with one close to me and drove on down there.
Mike was extremely helpful. Mike told me that rims are getting better and better which is making it more difficult to cure vibrations. That seemed countradictory. Mike went on to explain the GSP9700 checks both the rims and tires and matches highpoints in one to offset lowpoints in the other. With rims that have fewer irregularities, the "Ying" to match the tire's "Yang" is missing. The rig applies pressure to the tire/wheel, finds problem areas and shows the solutions on its computer screen. Two of my Goodyear F1's on the left side showed "Limit Exceeded" by the GSP9700. 33 and 38 lbs. IIRC, 28# is the limit. Swapping around the rims & tires got the left sides down to 28 and 26#. The right sides were fine at 9 & 11 #. Mike said its within tolerance, but at the very upper limit. A roadtest confirmed the problem was lessened slightly but still very much there.
Tirerack is sending out 2 new tires. Im having Mike install them instead of the other guys.
I guess most of Tirereack's customers in my area who never drive faster than 65mph and do not require anything other than static balancing. Tirerack should re-evaluate their recommended installers in this area.

Bill325Ci
03-19-2004, 11:32 AM
Thanks for asking. :thumbup: When you order online at http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AB2&url=index.jsp and reference 'gary/bimmerfest' as your previous contact, a portion of the proceeds go to support the Bimmerfest web site (and the boss gives me a pat on the back).
Gary,

Do you have any thoughts on durability. I put S0-3s on my rear about 7k miles ago, and they are showing a lot of wear, particularly in the center of the tire. I'm not expecting 50k out of any performance tire, but I would like to get more than 10k.

Gary@Tirerack
03-19-2004, 11:39 AM
Gary,

Do you have any thoughts on durability. I put S0-3s on my rear about 7k miles ago, and they are showing a lot of wear, particularly in the center of the tire. I'm not expecting 50k out of any performance tire, but I would like to get more than 10k.

Most see about 15,000-20,000 miles out of these. If you're having faster wear in the center of the tires this indicates that they are, or might have been overinflated.

Bill325Ci
03-19-2004, 11:49 AM
Most see about 15,000-20,000 miles out of these. If you're having faster wear in the center of the tires this indicates that they are, or might have been overinflated.
I watch inflation pretty carefully. I keep the rear pressure at 35-36 psi.

Choices/choices. I love the handling of the SO-3s, but am considering switching to the Goodyears for the wear factor.

Kaz
03-19-2004, 11:56 AM
Most see about 15,000-20,000 miles out of these. If you're having faster wear in the center of the tires this indicates that they are, or might have been overinflated.

It is normal for the rears on a factory-spec aligned E46 to wear down the middle. This characteristic does seem to vary somewhat from tire to tire, though. PZero Rossos did this very noticeably, whereas my current Yokohamas aren't quite as obvious.

HW
03-19-2004, 06:46 PM
It is normal for the rears on a factory-spec aligned E46 to wear down the middle. This characteristic does seem to vary somewhat from tire to tire, though. PZero Rossos did this very noticeably, whereas my current Yokohamas aren't quite as obvious.
i noticed that the door labels show some low inflation numbers (for 4 pass): 30fr/32rr.(205/55r16) i had been using that but found the ride to be nice as smooth as 31fr/33.5rr. but most here seems to be using higher psi's. could that the reason for the higher mid tire wear? :dunno: was there a memo sent from bmw to increase those numbers?

Pinecone
03-20-2004, 03:48 AM
Factory tire pressures are a compromise between safety, handling, and comfort. Typically US tire pressures are low due to the lower highway speeds and desire for comfort.

I run most of our tires on our vehicles around 40 psi all around, then tune slightly from there.

I have never had mid tread tire wear.