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Teej

03-22-2004, 12:16 PM

http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=new&action=display&num=1079946256

Alex Baumann

03-22-2004, 12:29 PM

Thanks Teej, I saw them early today too. It looks like they have already sent the press pictures to the magazines.

The official pictures are going to be released to the public this weekend, but I am guessing we'll see them earlier ;)

FrenchBoy

03-22-2004, 02:37 PM

Another one... It says that interior quality should be on par with the Audi A3.

Seems like iDrive will also be offered, at least as an option.

Is that a "Start" button to the left of the center vents on the dash ??? :yikes:

FrenchBoy

The HACK

03-22-2004, 02:41 PM

You know this is the first of the recent generation of BMWs to have a protruding bumper? The new Z4, 5, 6, and 7 series all have the bumper flush with the grill.

Looks good Jon, when can I place a deposit?

Bob330Ci

03-22-2004, 05:39 PM

That, BTW, is the only part of the Z4 design I have not grown to like.

B.

F1Crazy

03-22-2004, 06:10 PM

:clap: There is hope!!!

tgravo2

03-22-2004, 06:20 PM

Awesome design, I wish they made a small sedan also instead of a 5-door

vexed

03-22-2004, 11:38 PM

Official pics:) http://www.theonly1.co.uk/1/flash_multimedia/content/wallpapers/DesktopImage2_800x600.jpghttp://www.theonly1.co.uk/1/flash_multimedia/content/wallpapers/DesktopImage1_800x600.jpg

swchang

03-23-2004, 12:00 AM

People are saying this car wasn't Bangled? It looks to me like he had some significant influence in it. Look at all the lines, just like the Z4... Anyway, I think it looks nice. :)

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 01:49 AM

http://www.bmw.nl/special_1serie/img/wp_800x600_02.jpg

http://www.bmw.nl/special_1serie/img/wp_800x600_03.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/1er_9.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/1er_11.jpg

http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/1er_8.jpg

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 03:28 AM

Technic

03-23-2004, 03:36 AM

http://www.uploadit.org/ascariss/1er_8.jpg

Can this center console be the return of the angled dash towards the driver? If it is so, thanks; it was the wrong idea to remove it from the latest Ultimate Driving Machines...
:thumbup:

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 03:43 AM

Can this center console be the return of the angled dash towards the driver? If it is so, thanks; it was the wrong idea to remove it from the latest Ultimate Driving Machines...
:thumbup:

The center console is 12° tilted towards the driver, AFAIK.

Chris90

03-23-2004, 04:14 AM

Hmm, hate to say it, but it's not too bad. Of course we won't GET this one! I wonder if the interior will have the X3's crap quality though.

andy_thomas

03-23-2004, 04:19 AM

Engines :

116i - 4 cyl. - 115hp - 150Nm - 5 speed manual
120i - 4 cyl. - 150hp - 200Nm - 6 speed manual

118d - 4 cyl. turbo-diesel - 2.0 liter - 122 hp - 280Nm - 6 speed manual
120d - 4 cyl. turbo-diesel - 2.0 liter - 163hp - 340Nm - 6 speed manual

Dammit. The manual AND auto boxes are both *six-*speed - even with the four-pot petrol engines - and most engines gain bhp compared to their equivalents in the 3er. :(

The 120d reaches 62 mph (100 km/h) in 8.1 sec. That's ~7.8 sec to an nice, round 60. Given that BMW underestimates the performance of the diesels in particular, that makes it a pretty quick car for the money.

Shame about the standard-fit run-flats, though.

swchang

03-23-2004, 04:37 AM

So...

1) It does have iDrive,
2) Is that thing really is a start button?
3) I guess they moved the window buttons to the left like in the 5er,
4) Is the NAV touch screen?

OBS3SSION

03-23-2004, 04:45 AM

Overall, as a package, I like it. In fact.... have one in the US in 2 years when my lease is up... and BMW has doubled their chances of keeping me as a customer. Yes, there are a couple features I don't like individually, but I've yet to see a car that I like 100% of anyway.

I'll take it as shown (5 door), but I would really like to see a coupe and a 3 door hatch. Now, if only we'd get them here. (I have no real interest in a 1er sedan.)

Desertnate

03-23-2004, 05:43 AM

I kind of like the looks of it.

My thoughts...
1) In a car that small, do you really need PDC?
2) The interior doesn't look that bad, I just hope the materials are a better quality than what is out now
3) I-Drive!...I want buttons! :soapbox:
4) I like the styling much better than any of the new designs, but am I the only one that thinks the headlights almost give it a bug-eyed look? Like someone just shoved something up its tail pipe? (Hey, doc you using the whole hand back there?)

Too bad I'm not young and single anymore...that could be a fun car if I didn't have a family to lug around.

mwette

03-23-2004, 05:49 AM

Has BMW made a statement that this will or will not come to the US?
It looks nice, IMO., though I'm really waiting to see what the M2 will be like.

03-23-2004, 06:11 AM

FrenchBoy

03-23-2004, 06:25 AM

Is that a "Start" button to the left of the center vents on the dash ???

WOW :yikes: :yikes: There is a Start/Stop button on the dash...

No more key to start the car. I am not sure how I feel about that. I am all for new techology but I also like the visceral feeling of starting a car with a key. It is just something that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Overall I like the design though I think that the center console has a VW (Passat in particular) look/feel to it.

FrenchBoy

03-23-2004, 06:34 AM

A couple more comments...

-The interior is pretty cdecent but I certainly hope that i-drive is OPTIONAL.
-That steering wheel reminds me of the wheel in my car, the E36 M3 3-spoke wheel.
-I especially like the return to the driver oriented center console. That was one of my major complaints re: the E46 (and later) interiors.
-The front looks a bit too bug-eyed and the sides are a bit too busy, but the hatch area is, IMO, well executed and there aren't any glaring (and grotesque) style excesses as there have been on the E60, E63, E65 and Z4.

Now we just need a 5-door M1 to make it to the US. I'm not holding my breath.

racerdave

03-23-2004, 06:35 AM

Sigh. I still can't come to terms with "flame surfacing." It just looks contrived to me.

I like the interior, however, does anyone else think the center stack controls for HVAC, radio, etc, looks a little "econobox?"

LmtdSlip

03-23-2004, 06:39 AM

That front 3/4 shot makes it look too much like a PT Cruiser.

Ill pass on the 5 door.

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 06:44 AM

A couple more comments...

- but I certainly hope that i-drive is OPTIONAL.

It will be optional.

racerdave

03-23-2004, 06:46 AM

When I saw the profile shot with the blacked-out windows, I thought it looked great. But then I saw the front 3/4 you're mentioning and the proportions just looked a little weird. Could just be the photo playing tricks, but I doubt it... kind of like the rear 3/4 angle of pics of the 350Z... yes, it really is that ugly in person too. :)

I seriously don't think the flame surfacing would be enough to dissuade me from buying the car should it turn out to be excellent, but I just have to come to grips with the fact that I'm always going to have issues with Bangle's "flame surfaced" cars... :tsk:

swchang

03-23-2004, 06:54 AM

Oh, and what's the deal with the two CD-type slots? Is one CD and one DVD? :dunno:

Pete Teoh

03-23-2004, 07:59 AM

I like it. Time to start saving up for the ///M1 :eek:

racerdave

03-23-2004, 08:02 AM

M1?

What does that have to do with the new 1-series? :dunno:

http://bmw.hlabs.spb.ru/pics/e26.jpg

nate

03-23-2004, 08:05 AM

LeucX3

03-23-2004, 08:07 AM

I kinda like it even though i think the eyes are being held too wide open, like the car is on a caffiene high or something.

Do we like it compared to the current/new generation of BMW's or that of the late 90s? My guess would be the former.

GJR

03-23-2004, 09:46 AM

Too bad the headlights and other details don't quite look as nice as this. :cry:

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 09:54 AM

http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/products/highlights/1series/1series/campaign/index.html

BlackChrome

03-23-2004, 10:08 AM

Is it still RWD?

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 10:09 AM

Is it still RWD?

Yes.

Kaz

03-23-2004, 10:27 AM

The exterior is still Banglish for sure. Anyone who says otherwise is on crack. The pinched corners on the trim and lights really doesn't do it for me. And the rocker panel that's curved up at the rear doors that's stayed on from the CS1 really seems to be a strictly stylistic gesture, and would probably hinder rear in/egress.

The interior design overall seems to be somewhat of an improvement from the Post-E53 non-canted center stacks. The radio/HVAC in a hanging pod is reminiscent of the old center stacks upto the E34, a feature I'm not particularly a fan of (Honda does this a lot now). Wonder if the materials are just as crappy as on the X3, though.

PhilH

03-23-2004, 10:30 AM

Here's the press release...

The New BMW 1 Series Soon To Be Launched

Sheer Driving pleasure now also to be found in the compact class

March 23, 2004

Source: BMW AG

NOTE: The BMW 1 Series 5-door hatchback model will not be offered in the US. The availability and introduction timing of future 1 Series variants in the US has not been determined.

Munich, Germany - In the autumn of 2004 BMW will unveil for the very first time a compact class automobile – the BMW 1 Series with five doors and a length of 4.23 metres, making this new model series precisely 24 centimetres shorter than a 3 Series saloon. The typical BMW drive concept, powerful engines, high-grade equipment and the experience of sheer driving fun offer a new and unique alternative in this particular market segment.

Right from the very first glance there is no doubt that this new five-door sports-hatch is a BMW through and through: The long wheelbase with a short front overhang, the lower roof line with the typical C-pillar kink and the characteristic front end with the ‘kidney’ grille and double headlamps give the 1 Series a face that stands out in a crowd. The practical hatch opens to reveal a variable luggage compartment that offers the driver and passengers 330 to 1150 litres of storage space for even larger items of sports equipment for a variety of leisure activities.

Unique agility and steering precision

Whether loaded or not, the 1 Series is always sheer pleasure to drive: The seating position offering long-distance driving comfort and the exemplary, clearly structured cockpit provide the driver with perfect ergonomics during his ‘driving experience’. After starting the engine at the push of a button, one immediately senses that typical driving pleasure only a BMW can induce. Thanks to its agility and steering precision unique in the compact class, the BMW 1 Series not only ensures sporty but smooth handling of winding country roads, but also facilitates effortless urban driving pleasure. This is because – like all other BMW automobiles – the 1 Series has a front-mounted engine and rear wheel drive. Even in the tightest of bends there is no torque steer to be felt, the rear wheels having optimal traction when transferring the engine’s power onto the tarmac.

Moreover, this concept offers an ideal balance of weight between the technically elaborate aluminium front axle and the five-link rear suspension. Together all of these characteristics facilitate further advantages such as optimal traction even when fully loaded and on hills. The drive and suspension concept is further enhanced by a particularly stiff body and excellent aerodynamics with a drag coefficient of just 0.29.

On the whole no other vehicle in the compact class offers such a distinctively harmonious symbiosis of sporty driving characteristics and suitability for long-distance travel as the BMW 1 Series.

Four engine variants from 115 to 163 bhp

When the car is launched customers will have an immediate choice of four four-cylinder engines. The models 116i (85 kW / 115 bhp) und 120i (110 kW / 150 bhp) feature further developed and refined BMW petrol engines. The two diesel versions, the 118d (90 kW / 122 bhp) and the120d (120 kW / 163 bhp) are equipped with high-torque diesel engines. Needless to say, all BMW 1 Series cars meet with EU4 emission standards. A smooth-shifting manual six-speed gearbox (five-speed on the 116i) or, optionally, a comfortable six-speed automatic deliver power to large-size 16-inch wheels with emergency running properties, thereby contributing to the most dynamic performance available in this segment. Furthermore, the BMW 1 Series is one of the most economical in its class.

Active and passive safety at the highest level

Robust, large disc brakes provide supreme stopping power in any situation. By means of two-stage brake light clusters the BMW 1 Series indicates to vehicles behind whether the brakes are being applied normally or hard. And the extensive range of standard safety equipment, which includes DSC Dynamic Stability Control, DBC Dynamic Brake Control, Electronic Differential Lock as well as a complete airbag system comprising head airbags for all seats, complies with the most stringent safety requirements. These safety features and an exemplary protective body structure are the best prerequisites for achieving five stars in the Euro NCAP crash test.

Equipment options normally associated with more luxurious classes

In addition to the wide range of basic equipment, there are a myriad of possibilities to individualize the BMW 1 Series with optional equipment available in the usual high BMW quality. Many of these have previously only been seen in higher vehicle segments. These include: Convenient keyless access, Bluetooth mobile interface, sports seats with backrest width adjustment, acoustic PDC Park Distance Control at the front and the rear, Bi-Xenon headlights and a choice of high-performance audio and navigation systems, which can also be operated centrally or by voice control utilizing the BMW state-of-the-art iDrive operating concept.

With its unique concept, the BMW 1 Series is intended to target customers who have always appreciated the practical aspects of previously available compact vehicles but have, until now, searched in vain for an automobile that takes into consideration their increased demands in terms of driving pleasure and individuality. Whilst fully meeting these customer requirements, the BMW 1 Series offers in addition high-quality product substance wrapped up in a modern and attractive design.

Overview of specifications

116i 85 kW /115 bhp at 6000 rpm; 150 Nm at 4300 rpm; cubic capacity 1.6 litres; 0-62 in 10.8 s; top speed 200 km/h (124 mph); fuel consumption 7.5 ltr/100km

120i 110 kW / 150 bhp at 6200 rpm; 200 Nm at 3600 rpm; cubic capacity 2.0 litres; 0-62 in 8.7 s; top speed 217 km/h (135 mph); fuel consumption 7.4 ltr/100km

118d 90 kW / 122 bhp at 4000 rpm; 280 Nm at 2000 rpm; cubic capacity 2.0 litres 0-62 in 10.0 s; top speed 201 km/h (125 mph); fuel consumption 5.6 ltr/100km

120d 120 kW / 163 bhp at 4000 rpm; 340 Nm at 2000 rpm; cubic capacity 2.0 litres; 0-62 in 7.9 s; top speed 220 km/h (137mph); fuel consumption 5.7 ltr/100km

The BMW 1 Series made in Germany.

The BMW 1 Series is manufactured at the ultra-modern Regensburg plant, utilizing production facilities which provide some of the highest possible levels of flexibility and model diversity in the automotive industry, but which at the same time offer the best possible standard of present-day workplace ergonomics.

With the BMW 1 Series, the BMW Group is laying an important cornerstone for further profitable growth. Market researchers see the premium segment of the compact class as the market with large potential worldwide. Thanks to its unique vehicle concept, the BMW 1 Series will gain a disproportionately large share of the market and contribute to a further sharpening of the BMW brand profile.

Prices for the BMW 1 Series are shortly to be announced. The market launch is planned for the autumn of 2004. The BMW 1 Series will celebrate its auto show debut at the Paris Motor Show.

Alex Baumann

03-23-2004, 10:35 AM

Hmm, it has dual-zone A/C :eeps:

binaryfarms

03-23-2004, 11:34 AM

Headlights and tailight shapes still seem the weakest/most awkward part, but I have to say, even as a confirmed Bangle basher, that I like it. I think I'm just so glad to see the stubby nose again that I'm willing to forgive the other details. If they do an M2 coupe I'm so there...

F1Crazy

03-23-2004, 12:34 PM

We all know that 1 series won't come to US in hatchback form but I wouldn't be surprised if 2 door coupe made it here in a few years. What is more important is the fact that we can see what E90 might look like and it's not so bad, I can't wait to read some independent driving evaluations. Is it true that it shares rear multilink suspension with E90?

SARAFIL

03-23-2004, 03:02 PM

Oh, and what's the deal with the two CD-type slots? Is one CD and one DVD? :dunno:

The DVD slot is for the optional Navigation System.

Alex, do you know if the Navigation option and iDrive are going to be bundled together, or if you can get one without the other?

WILLIA///M

03-23-2004, 03:16 PM

The coupe will be the one, even though it might be designated the 2.

philippek

03-23-2004, 05:22 PM

4) I like the styling much better than any of the new designs, but am I the only one that thinks the headlights almost give it a bug-eyed look? Like someone just shoved something up its tail pipe? (Hey, doc you using the whole hand back there?)

Moooon River!

I am genuinely excited by this new design. I personally want the 5 door although I know sales would tank in the U.S.

Drop an I-6 in it, and my ZHP goes on the CPO lot!