1 Series Brochure

[Waverz]

Autospies has scans of the new 1 series brochure
http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=2876&categoryId=8
http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=2877&categoryId=8
http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=2878&categoryId=8

Here's some cool pictures: (courtesy autospies)
http://www.autospies.com/images/uploads/medium/BMW1-seriesbrochure20.jpg
Sydney Blue :D

http://www.autospies.com/images/uploads/medium/BMW1-seriesbrochure18.jpg
That start stop button looks great :thumbup:

http://www.autospies.com/images/uploads/medium/BMW1-seriesbrochure12.jpg
:yikes:

[philippek]

SWEET!

I love how they list "boot operation via badge emblem" under exterior features. IMHO that's one of the coolest design details of the 6, and it's nice to see it trickle down.

:thumbup:

[andy_thomas]

SWEET!

I love how they list "boot operation via badge emblem" under exterior features. IMHO that's one of the coolest design details of the 6, and it's nice to see it trickle down.

:thumbup:

Already done - by VW Golf and various other VAG products. Road testers of the new 6 made out like BMW came up with the idea first...

[philippek]

Already done - by VW Golf and various other VAG products. Road testers of the new 6 made out like BMW came up with the idea first...

Yeah, but you had rotate the VW symbol to expose a keyhole. BMW didn't do it first, they just did it better.

:)

[blueguydotcom]

Yeah, but you had rotate the VW symbol to expose a keyhole. BMW didn't do it first, they just did it better.

:)

oh brother. it's about time bmw allowed us to open the trunk without fumbling for those darn little rubber detents.

[andy_thomas]

Yeah, but you had rotate the VW symbol to expose a keyhole. BMW didn't do it first, they just did it better.

:)

On the new Golf, the badge is tilted up in the same way. Last time I checked, the new Golf came first...

[Clarke]

What was that about no I-drive on the 1?:dunno: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29804&stc=1http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29805&stc=1

[Waverz]

What was that about no I-drive on the 1?:dunno:
From what I could tell from the brochure, I think the i-Drive only comes with the Navigation Professional?
http://www.autospies.com/images/uploads/medium/BMW1-seriesbrochure23.jpg

[Alex Baumann]

From what I could tell from the brochure, I think the i-Drive only comes with the Navigation Professional?

Correct, I-Drive is an option that only comes with Navigation Proff.

[Andre Yew]

It's kind of heavy isn't it? 3120 lbs for the 120d, and 2800+ lbs for the 116.
Hopefully the coupes will be lighter.

--Andre

[Chris90]

It's kind of heavy isn't it? 3120 lbs for the 120d, and 2800+ lbs for the 116.
Hopefully the coupes will be lighter.

--Andre

Your weights are like 200 lbs too high. It's pretty light.

[dino007]

What speakers do you think we can expect with the professional Hi Fi sound?
It only mentions "10 speakers", are there gonna be subwoofers, tweeters etc.?

[andy_thomas]

Your weights are like 200 lbs too high. It's pretty light.

I think the figures quoted by Andre include driver, fuel and luggage. Without those of course the car cannot ever move or be dynamically measured in any way so arguably, gross figures are more relevant. In the end, provided measurements are carried out evenly it doesn't really matter (you either measure all cars with an allowance for the pilot, his stiff, and fuel) or you don't.

All said, the car's kerb weight is competitively light (though no more), measured objectively against its direct rivals.

[LDV330i]

What speakers do you think we can expect with the professional Hi Fi sound?
It only mentions "10 speakers", are there gonna be subwoofers, tweeters etc.?
It sounds like they are going to use a similar set up to what I had in my 318ti (standard here in the US, upgrade in Europe). In front they will have a tweeter, midrange, bass, and in the back a midrange and tweeter. So 6 speakers in the front plus 4 in the back makes 10. It's marketing hype since at least in my 318ti having 10 speakers did not substantially upgrade the sound. :cry:

[dino007]

Thanks LDV.
Well I hope the "Professional" sound system is going to be substantial. It costs 1000 Euros, which would work out to be 12000 South African Rand, quite a lot of money. That's what the Professional Sound System with DSP costs in the new 5 series. Do you think it will be the equivalent of that system?

Does anyone have the Professional Sound System?

[Chris90]

I think the figures quoted by Andre include driver, fuel and luggage. Without those of course the car cannot ever move or be dynamically measured in any way so arguably, gross figures are more relevant. In the end, provided measurements are carried out evenly it doesn't really matter (you either measure all cars with an allowance for the pilot, his stiff, and fuel) or you don't.

All said, the car's kerb weight is competitively light (though no more), measured objectively against its direct rivals.

Almost nobody quotes car weights with driver, luggage and fuel, so it's wrong to use them for comparison.

[andy_thomas]

Almost nobody quotes car weights with driver, luggage and fuel, so it's wrong to use them for comparison.

Except BMW, in all its European model brochures - which were posted in this thread.

My point about comparison is that *within an individual market*, you can compare the weight of one car against another. But you can't compare the weights of the same cars across markets. E.g. in Australia, the 325i weighs 1,420 kg; in the UK, 1,495 kg. Same car, same spec, but different methods of quotation.

Which is why someone just thought the car weighs nearly 200lb more than it actually does.

[Motown328]

Well, for all us North Americans, the 1-Series dream is piss. I guess, as posted on the general board, Purves has made a staement saying NO 1er in N.A. :mad: :mad: :thumbdwn:

That's what the Mini is for?!?!?!?!

If he thinks the 1er and Mini are comparable autos, then I don't know quite what to say.............. :confused:

[Kaz]

It sounds like they are going to use a similar set up to what I had in my 318ti (standard here in the US, upgrade in Europe). In front they will have a tweeter, midrange, bass, and in the back a midrange and tweeter. So 6 speakers in the front plus 4 in the back makes 10. It's marketing hype since at least in my 318ti having 10 speakers did not substantially upgrade the sound. :cry:

More speakers doesn't mean jack for sound quality. In fact, it's harder to make more speakers work properly together to sound good.

2 tweeters, 2 midbass and 1 sub is plenty. A large percentage of competition SQ cars win trophies with that setup.

I agree that '10 speakers' will likely be set up like existing cars. The E46 is set up the same way with 6 in front and 4 in back.

I took my 10 junkers out and am working on doing it with 7.

[dino007]

Well at the moment I got a full Rockford Fosgate system in my car, but when I get my 1er, I was hoping to get something fitted by BMW, cos then you don't have people messing around with the car etc.
I don't need the same pounding car audio that my Rockford System offers me, but would like something that has the ability to pump, and has excellent quality.

Do you people not think it'll be worth it?

[Kaz]

Do you people not think it'll be worth it?

Don't you think it's going to be tough to say without anything to listen to? :dunno:

If the E46 one is any indication, it would be no.

[andy_thomas]

More speakers doesn't mean jack for sound quality. In fact, it's harder to make more speakers work properly together to sound good.

2 tweeters, 2 midbass and 1 sub is plenty. A large percentage of competition SQ cars win trophies with that setup.

I agree that '10 speakers' will likely be set up like existing cars. The E46 is set up the same way with 6 in front and 4 in back.

I took my 10 junkers out and am working on doing it with 7.

Note that in European spec - considering where this variant will be sold - the standard arrangement for low-end BMWs is SIX speakers, not ten (which is probably why the brochure makes a big deal of it). 6 speakers will be standard; 10 will probably be an upgrade, like our E46s, probably in the configuration you suggest.

[LDV330i]

Note that in European spec - considering where this variant will be sold - the standard arrangement for low-end BMWs is SIX speakers, not ten (which is probably why the brochure makes a big deal of it). 6 speakers will be standard; 10 will probably be an upgrade, like our E46s, probably in the configuration you suggest.
BMWNA played the same game with the Compact (318ti). The US market got a loaded base model where the 10 speaker set up was standard. The Canadian market got a decontented version where the 6 speaker system was standard and the the 10 speaker system an upgrade/option.

[ARCHER]

Do you people not think it'll be worth it?

Highly doubtful. I strongly suspect you'd be better off going with the basic system and upgrading with aftermarket components.

[TD]

What speakers do you think we can expect with the professional Hi Fi sound?
It only mentions "10 speakers", are there gonna be subwoofers, tweeters etc.?
If you're interested because of that, I think you're looking at the wrong car.

[Sean]

If you're interested because of that, I think you're looking at the wrong car.


Exactly! Give me an M2 stripped, cloth seats w/o power and roll up windows. I've got to have a sunroof though, but I'll take one w/o power if BMW NA will offer it.