What is ZHP? ZPP? ZSP? ZCW?

[KrisL]

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[Alex Baumann]

:)

[KrisL]

Actually, I would attribute the improvement in braking and handling to the use of better tires, not bigger tires. The tires that come on the perf pkg 330i are lightyears better than the bargain basement Conti's that arrive on the SP 330i.


Fair enough - I edited my original post. :)

[Mr. The Edge]

New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard sport package:

Firmer springs (front +6%, rear +8%)
Firmer shocks (Jounce: front +50%, rear +20%), (Rebound: front +35%, rear -8%)
Larger diameter anti-roll bars: 23.5 mm front (v. 23.0), 18.5 mm rear (v. 18.0)
More rigid forward bushings
Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
-.5 degrees of camber


hasn't this been found to be false?

:eeps:

[KrisL]

hasn't this been found to be false?

:eeps:


Perhaps - I grabbed that from some old information. Do do you have any updated/correct info?

[Mr. The Edge]

I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars

[Dr. Phil]

I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars
Those parts are definitely different on my ZHP ;) :p :angel:

Kris nice work :thumbup:

[ObD]

:rofl:

All this will be moot when the E90 3-liter arrives. : popcorn:

[allaboutme]

Those parts are definitely different on my ZHP ;) :p :angel:

Kris nice work :thumbup:
After driving both zhp and non-zhp I agree that they are different.

[kurichan]

Perhaps - I grabbed that from some old information. Do do you have any updated/correct info?What's the truth on this? Does anyone know. I seriously doubt BMW would LIE about the equipment on the car, especially something so easy to prove otherwise...

[Bimmer4life]

Thanks for this post, I was wondering about it too. They didn't have all these codes & options back in 99. Can you get the ZHP in an automatic with the cube trim? I do more city than highway miles & need an auto.

[LDV330i]

Thanks for this post, I was wondering about it too. They didn't have all these codes & options back in 99. Can you get the ZHP in an automatic with the cube trim? I do more city than highway miles & need an auto.
The cube trim is standard and only available on a ZHP. Yes an automatic can be had in a ZHP. If you go to the BWMUSA site you should be able to configure a car and you will be able to see what options and colors are available when you order a ZHP

[KU Ned]

HACK and I compared suspension part numbers on the car I had, and found them to be no different. What about this list of parts that was posted a few months back? Sorry I only have a word file and do not know how to upload it.

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[KrisL]

What about this list of parts that was posted a few months back?

Hm, so same stabilizer bars but different everything else. Interesting..

[JST]

I think HACK might have deleted all the threads concerning this question.

Certain part numbers appear to be no different between the 2 cars

IIRC, it turned out that HACK was mistaken. I can't remember the explanation for what he was looking at, but it turned out that there were in fact different part numbers for the ZSP and ZHP suspension componentry. Turned out to be a tempest in a teapot, basically.

[Alex Baumann]

Ah ha ! Very interesting.

So, it's indeed more than marketing.

Hmmm .....

[doeboy]

Yes and no...

some parts were different, but nothing definitive and no indications that all the remaining parts were special.

I think lower control arms, and shocks were different.

What appeared to be the same were sways, springs. :dunno:

[andy_thomas]

Ah ha ! Very interesting.

So, it's indeed more than marketing.

Hmmm .....
It's been that way for several years. When BMW released the M Sport II package in March 2001, different wishbones were specified for each car, and still are. What actual difference they make is another question - a 320i with sports suspension/big wheels and an M Sport-equipped 320i drive identically to me :dunno:.

I suspect the different wishbones are used to increase caster and counter the tramlining you get with vast wheels.

M Sport II-equipped cars, and that includes the various Performance Package 330s, have wishbones with a '2' in the fifth number column (e.g. 31 12 2 282 121). Within most part numbers, this '2' seems to indicate a certain level of ///M-ness.

[Ashe too]

hasn't this been found to be false? :eeps:
No! :banghead:




Okay, so it looks like Paddle.Shift and I owe a lot of people apologies...

I did a little more digging around the ETK, and I spoke with Paddle.Shift on the phone. It appears Andy_Thomas was on the right track. We dug up the PNs for 330i's again and what appears on the ETK as "sports package" shocks and springs turns out to be the same PN as M-Tech sports package shocks and springs under the 325i. We figured it out...

Basically, the Performance Package is only offered in North America, and there is no such thing as sports package shocks that's different than the standard package shocks for the 330i. At least, not in the U.S...But in Canada, when you specify sports package for the 330i, you get the M-Tech II bits. So on the ETK, it lists the M-Tech II shocks and struts as "sports suspension" pieces for the 330i, when in fact, if you buy ZSP for the 330i you get the same 043/044 shocks, while for the Performance Package package you get the M-Tech II shocks and struts (459/460 are the last 3 digits).

When we were comparing the PNs with PNs on the ETK, it MATCHES that of the 330i with "sports package", while not investigating further we concluded that the Performance Package uses the same shocks. Well, in fact it sort of does. It matches the same shocks and struts as 330i with "sports package" in CANADA, not U.S.

And when we went to explore the Performance Package springs vs. 330i springs, the spring color codes matches (there are no PNs printed on the springs). This part is still under contention and unless someone figures out how to decode BMW's cryptic color coding system and ETK spring table, I'm at my wits end as to how to compare the spring parts.

I hope this clears a few more things up. The Performance Package package DOES in fact, uses up-rated shocks and struts compared to U.S. spec 330i. We put too much faith in the ETK and it came back to bite us in the @SS. I apologize for all this fury over my mistake.

(Actually we just wanted to see how gulllible people are...) http://forums.bimmerevolution.com/images/smiles/icon9.gif Links related to the debate and discussion.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47473

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48070

http://forums.bimmerevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=790&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=e62cc5180eb78b5d9e9ca48622d99ceb

[AndDown]

Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs



I believe you meant "6" inches?

Nice references - thanks! Also kudo's to your FAQ site. :thumbup:

[woody underwood]

All I can say is that after just getting back to KC from a 2500 mile trip in NE, SD, WY, CO, KS and oh yeah MO...our new ZHP (And that's what I'm calling it and I don't care who thinks it's just another 330ci) was fantastic. 120/130 mph for a whole day in SD...super in the sweepers and tight curves on mountain roads and 26 mpg overall. Best Bimmer for the money EVER and it looks like some people are finally realizing that it really is a bit different. The things pretty too.

[m3teknitian]

How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.

[woody underwood]

How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.
From what I've seen posted here and read in car magazines...they are faster and handle better. And that's an unbiased opinion, not just saying it because I have one. Although my new car has not been on a track yet, I've driven E30 and E36 M3s at driver schools and the E46 w/ZHP would be right there with both of them alhtough the E30 still just outcorners everything.

[Tanin]

How would the ZHP run against an E36 M3? Just curious, haha.


I have played around a few times with a E36 M3 that lives near by. Every now and then we find ourselves at the same stoplight near my home. Our cars are close enough in performance that results vary.

BTW... I love Estoril Blue :thumbup:

[FN2DRIV]

I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.

[Tanin]

I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.

I noticed you've asked this question a few times. This should help.......99.99% of all parts that fit a MY '01-'04 330 will work on your car. A search on this board and the E46 Fannatics board should give you more than enough items to burn your money on. However, an 8k blower and 3k suspension still won't make it an "M."

[shizat63]

Another update to the ZHP

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80328

[Robbyrh10]

Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? Thanks

[Alex Baumann]

Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? Thanks

What do you mean you 'just found out' ? :confused:

You ordered a manual and they are giving you an automatic because it's not available until January ? And they didn't inform you in advance ? :eek:

[MicahO]

Wow, great customer service. I would get your deposit back, and go somewhere else. They don't deserve your business.

Got that right - I hope the deposit was on a credit card -

Walk away, fast.

[LDV330i]

Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? ThanksIf you ordered your car you should have signed a purchase order listing all the options and selections you made. So that would make very questionable why your are not getting the car you ordered. If you bought something the dealer had already pre-order that obviously were misled and need to take your business somewhere else.

The is absolutely not reason why should take an automatic in lieu of a stick if that is what you want. You will live to regret that decision as long as you own the car.

[Robbyrh10]

Thanks for all the replies fellas. Ya, i did not order the car, but i was told it was a 6sp. It was going to another dealer, but they told me that they could have it delievered to me and it was a 6sp. So i didnt order it, just mislead. The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker. Someone must have an auto in these things. I mean, the dealership told me that all the 6sp 330ci ZHP were basically unavailable right now.

[LDV330i]

Thanks for all the replies fellas. Ya, i did not order the car, but i was told it was a 6sp. It was going to another dealer, but they told me that they could have it delievered to me and it was a 6sp. So i didnt order it, just mislead. The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker. Someone must have an auto in these things. I mean, the dealership told me that all the 6sp 330ci ZHP were basically unavailable right now.You will lose between 0.5 to 1 sec going from 0-60 with an automatic. :(

The dealer makes it sound like the factory does not make enough manual transmissions. The real issue is that the majority of dealers refuse to order mechanical transmissions unless it is pre-sold car. If you place you order now you could have the car equipped exactly to your requirements by the end of March.:)

[FenPhen]

The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker.The difference between a manual and automatic on paper is 0.5 seconds for 0-60. The difference in terms of engagement and fun is huge. Forget fast or slow; if you already know how to drive a manual and had the smallest amount of desire to get a manual in the first place, don't back down.

According to C&D, the IS300 runs 0-60 in the neighborhood of 7.3 to 7.4 seconds. BMW says the ZHP does 0-60 in 5.9, and C&D tested 5.6 seconds. Tack on a half second for the auto.

[e46zhp]

sorry for my ignorance... but what is DHP? :dunno:

[Tanin]

sorry for my ignorance... but what is DHP? :dunno:


Your not ignorant......just non-delusional like "Doeboy" :D


A quick search on this board will explain.

[baulla]

I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.

hey im not sure if this is wat ur lookin for but i know carbonio makes a cold air intake system and the dinan chips and other mods from the due goods for ur car but after that **** starts getin expensive there are headers and exhaust fro around a grand for each the headers i was lookin at was like 1200 bux so im not sure if that wat u were lookin at but thats wat im sayin

[weave]

The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker.
The difference between a manual and automatic on paper is 0.5 seconds for 0-60. The difference in terms of engagement and fun is huge. Forget fast or slow; if you already know how to drive a manual and had the smallest amount of desire to get a manual in the first place, don't back down.

According to C&D, the IS300 runs 0-60 in the neighborhood of 7.3 to 7.4 seconds. BMW says the ZHP does 0-60 in 5.9, and C&D tested 5.6 seconds. Tack on a half second for the auto.

BMW does not list different 0-60 times for the ZHP manual and ZHP automatic like they do with the non-ZHP 330's.

I think that has to do with the different final drive ratio on the ZHP automatic.

If you look at the non-ZHP 330's final drive ratios:
manual: 2.93
auto: 3.38

and the ZHP's final drive ratios:
manual/SNG: 3.07
auto: 3.64

While I was at a BMW dealership a few weeks ago, I asked the guy at the parts counter if he could look up the gears on a 2005 330Ci w/ ZHP and tell me if they are in fact 3.07 or the same as the non-ZHPs 2.93s. (The 2005 330's w/ZHP and with manual or SMG tranny do have the 3.07 gears)

The parts guy let me look at the computer screen when he had it up there. I could plainly see that the final drive ratio was 3.6something for the ZHP option with the automatic transmission. (I can't remember the last digit, but I’m pretty sure it was 4).

I have not seen anything in BMW's marketing material stating that the final drive ratio for the ZHP's w/auto is 3.64, but the part is listed as that ratio in BMW's parts system.

The final drive ratio is a bigger change from the non-ZHP automatic to the ZHP automatic than it is on the non-ZHP manual to the ZHP manual.

I believe that the final drive ratio difference is a big enough change in the automatic's to give the ZHP automatic the same 0-60 times as the ZHP manual.

Now, if you swap out those lame 3.07s that come with the ZHP manual for the 3.46's that BMW should have put in the ZHP option with the manual transmissions, then there would be no comparison!

[SpeedFreak!]

BMW does not list different 0-60 times for the ZHP manual and ZHP automatic like they do with the non-ZHP 330's.

I think that has to do with the different final drive ratio on the ZHP automatic.

If you look at the non-ZHP 330's final drive ratios:
manual: 2.93
auto: 3.38

and the ZHP's final drive ratios:
manual/SNG: 3.07
auto: 3.64

While I was at a BMW dealership a few weeks ago, I asked the guy at the parts counter if he could look up the gears on a 2005 330Ci w/ ZHP and tell me if they are in fact 3.07 or the same as the non-ZHPs 2.93s. (The 2005 330's w/ZHP and with manual or SMG tranny do have the 3.07 gears)

The parts guy let me look at the computer screen when he had it up there. I could plainly see that the final drive ratio was 3.6something for the ZHP option with the automatic transmission. (I can't remember the last digit, but I’m pretty sure it was 4).

I have not seen anything in BMW's marketing material stating that the final drive ratio for the ZHP's w/auto is 3.64, but the part is listed as that ratio in BMW's parts system.

The final drive ratio is a bigger change from the non-ZHP automatic to the ZHP automatic than it is on the non-ZHP manual to the ZHP manual.

I believe that the final drive ratio difference is a big enough change in the automatic's to give the ZHP automatic the same 0-60 times as the ZHP manual.

Now, if you swap out those lame 3.07s that come with the ZHP manual for the 3.46's that BMW should have put in the ZHP option with the manual transmissions, then there would be no comparison!

When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it. :thumbup:

[bmw330pp]

When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it. :thumbup:
I've got the manual ZHP coupe ready and willing :)

[bbelt88]

I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.

I would start with Dinan tuning products. Strating with the free flow exhuast system , throttle body. Once you have spent a few months breaking in ur engine wiith these mods i would do Dinan Stage "engine tuning", which is their software chip systems that adds horsepower and torque. For the last two mods i would put a cold air intake in, followed by the Dinan Supercharger system. At the end you should be making close to 390 - 405 BHP if not more.

[RSPDiver]

I dunno, bbelt, that sounds a bit optomistic. Not saying it's impossible, but you gotta consider the engine is at a relatively high compression ratio already. There are a couple of guys on here with FI ZHPs already, and I don't think they are over about 345-360 BHP. Serious FI tuning will likely require lowering the compression ratio and messing with some engine internals. And, FWIW, Dinan isn't the be-all end-all of performance mods. In fact, the lunatic modders seem to steer clear of them completely for the most part. They seem to be fine street tune upgrades, but race tune is often sourced from other aftermarket vendors.

[2zzgepower]

I would start with Dinan tuning products. Strating with the free flow exhuast system , throttle body. Once you have spent a few months breaking in ur engine wiith these mods i would do Dinan Stage "engine tuning", which is their software chip systems that adds horsepower and torque. For the last two mods i would put a cold air intake in, followed by the Dinan Supercharger system. At the end you should be making close to 390 - 405 BHP if not more.
numbers are a bit high there dude, more like 360 whp with proper tuning on the SC, but deffinetly enough torque to embarass an m3 in a straight line

btw Dinan does not make a supercharge (that i know of) for any of the 3 series, you have to void you warranty if you want the power. you have to go with ESS tuning, Active Autowerke tuning, Technik Engineering. none of the kits talk about making more than 365, and that number is bhp not whp. there is also a turbo made by ATP, haven't heard much about it though. ATP is a pretty good company.

[SpeedFreak!]

I've got the manual ZHP coupe ready and willing :)

I've got the auto (long story)... and am always ready... for a race! :D
We need someone that would be able to acurately time us with a proper stop watch...
Sounds like a meet in Sorento Valley is in order... ;)

[05'BMWSA]

What Package does this car have?

http://www.have2have.co.za/images/bmw1.JPG

[LDV330i]

What Package does this car have?

The packages being describe in this thread only apply to the BMW North America distributor's market. The 318i is not available in the North American (US/Canada). Your car was actually available in Mexico and marketed there as the Formula 1 package, though IIRC in other markets is was called the M Sport package. See snapshot of the BMW Mexico website with a 320i Formula 1 car.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34887

[ASenna]

What Package does this car have?

http://www.have2have.co.za/images/bmw1.JPG

A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.

[bmw330pp]

A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.
Yes it is. It's know as the Performance Package or ZHP. :thumbup:

[Fast Bob]

Yes it is. It's know as the Performance Package or ZHP. :thumbup:
My eyes must be deceiving me....those wheels don`t look like 18-inch 135s....

Regards,
Bob

[bmw330pp]

My eyes must be deceiving me....those wheels don`t look like 18-inch 135s....

Regards,
Bob
Yes, have them checked please! :D J/K
I was refering to the body kit, although I know the Performance Package comes with more than just a body kit.

[BimmerGuyFL]

At the beggining of this thread it was stated that the Performance package has a steering ratio of 13.7:1 and none Performance package cars had a ratio of 15.4:1. the Correction is that the all 2004 and 2005 330i models, None sport, Sport, and Performance package have Steering Ratios of 13.7:1 with 3.0 turns from lock to lock. steering ratio of 15.4:1 with 3.4 turns lock to lock is for E46 models from 1999 thru 2000.

sorry to post this in an old thread but I am picky about correct specifications. :thumbup:

[johnnygraphic]

At the beggining of this thread it was stated that the Performance package has a steering ratio of 13.7:1 and none Performance package cars had a ratio of 15.4:1. the Correction is that the all 2004 and 2005 330i models, None sport, Sport, and Performance package have Steering Ratios of 13.7:1 with 3.0 turns from lock to lock. steering ratio of 15.4:1 with 3.4 turns lock to lock is for E46 models from 1999 thru 2000.

sorry to post this in an old thread but I am picky about correct specifications. :thumbup:

What?

[BimmerGuyFL]

what? what i meant was that i was stating the correct ratios for 2004 and 2005 330 models

:thumbup:

[Ti_Ag]

Car & Driver was able to get a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds with a 1/4 mile of 14.3 seconds @97mph from a ZHP-equipped 330i. For comparison, they got identical acceleration numbers from the Infiniti G35 coupe which has 50 more hp!

Of course I dont condone or endorse drag racing, but recnetly I was playing with a G35 from light to light and keeping out in front of him through 2nd into 3rd...and thats in an 01 sport...course maybe he didn't know how to drive ;)

[MUL8R]

:rofl:

All this will be moot when the E90 3-liter arrives. : popcorn:


Yeah, I felt the same way, until I spent 3 (yes three!) hours test driving two different E90's (one with sport suspension, one without) and a 2005 330Ci ZHP. (All manu-matics, strangely enough!)

Guess what? ZHP is the MAGIC suspension! While both E90's had greater acceleration than the E46, neither matched the ZHP's handling. The sport suspension on the E90 suffered from a noticable, but tolerable resonance with expansion joints on a local patch of freeway. On smooth roads, there is still a slight amount of body lean. I was surprised to find that even the E90 "sport" suspension was still a little soft for my liking. Still noticeable porpoising under smooth conditions.

Then I drove the ZHP. Even in convertible form, it held a line in both sweepers and tight turns better than the sport suspension in the E90. Yeah, there was cowl shake in the convertible, but the car still held the line better. Then, shock of shocks! No resonance on same bad patch of bad freeway!!! Even better damping than the normal suspension on the E90. My suspicion is that while BMW has made great strides matching suspensions to the new run-flats, they still haven't mastered the combination they way they have on the ZHP.

I sat on my cold hard cash for more than a year for the E90 to emerge. Today, I've decided I need to rush out and order an (E46) 330Cic with ZHP before they stop selling them!

~Keith

[downtown]

Love the ZHP, tighter, sexier, awesome, but it was too harsh for me, since I have 3 children. Even the ZSP has a firmer ride.

I just wish I had the short throw. Can this be added to ZSP?

[jacobo]

Love the ZHP, tighter, sexier, awesome, but it was too harsh for me, since I have 3 children. Even the ZSP has a firmer ride.

I just wish I had the short throw. Can this be added to ZSP?

You can get an aftermarket SSK from a ton of aftermarket tuners. Don't know which is the best, but I know they are pretty common.

[AudioslaveFan]

When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it. :thumbup:

I really want to know the answer to this question.

I have a 2005 300ci ZHP automatic. I would be willing to test it against a manual to see the difference. I live in St. Louis, if anyone has a ZHP manual and would be willing to test it against mine let me know. :thumbup:

[E60orBust]

I really want to know the answer to this question.

I have a 2005 300ci ZHP automatic. I would be willing to test it against a manual to see the difference. I live in St. Louis, if anyone has a ZHP manual and would be willing to test it against mine let me know. :thumbup:

I've seen a lot of posts from people who are friends/drinking buds/etc with the sales reps at their dealerships (or maybe it was on fanatics, i forgot which, too much drifting). Why not do an after-hours unofficial test with a manual vs automatic ZHP and post the results? Might be easier than getting two board members in distance of each other with a third party to time it. :dunno:

So far it's just Speedfreak in San Diego with the Auto and BMW330PP with the manual somewhere in SoCal. Any other matches?

[alibajalajaula]

Check DINAN, Signature Vehicle Dinan S2-330 Manual for 330i, 330ci years 04-05, Part SE46-30S2M-PP for a cool $8381 (222 Labor units) they'll beef up your baby!! I got this from their website, pages 67 & 68 of their online catalog. Haven't seen how much hp increase measured on dino this will give you over the 235 ponies stock. Was planning to call, but got tied up. Check it out!:)

[ibanezgod]

I got a 14.7 out of my 2002 330Ci. I think if i had the short throw I might be hitting a 14.5-6

Makes me feel better about my vanilla 330Ci that there isn't too much difference in the 1/4

Glad I didn't go for the G35, I would have wanted to throw the interior out the window after 6 months it's so ugly and cheap.


Car & Driver was able to get a 0-60 time of 5.6 seconds with a 1/4 mile of 14.3 seconds @97mph from a ZHP-equipped 330i. For comparison, they got identical acceleration numbers from the Infiniti G35 coupe which has 50 more hp!

[818Guy]

What Package does this car have?

http://www.have2have.co.za/images/bmw1.JPG



It comes with one of those "Sprockets" dudes seen on SNL?

Sorry, couldn't resist. :angel:

[jryguyi]

When were these packages introduced? I have a 00 328i and have no idea what packages it has :confused:

Orient Blue Metallic paint
Moonroof
BMW Business CD
Lumber
Leatherette
Garage Door Opener Controls
ASC

:dunno: Anyone?

[LDV330i]

When were these packages introduced? I have a 00 328i and have no idea what packages it has :confused:

Orient Blue Metallic paint
Moonroof
BMW Business CD
Lumber
Leatherette
Garage Door Opener Controls
ASC

:dunno: Anyone?BMW has always had a Sport Package (ZSP) and a Premium Package (ZPP). The Performace Package (ZHP) was introduced mid-MY2003. Your car appears not have any packages installed. With Premium Package you get leather seats. With the Sport Package you get sport seats, sport suspension, and 17" package specific wheels.

[Hoppy6698]

A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.

Does anyone know of an aftermarket bumper styled in this fashion? I would like something with a little more flare, but nothing eccentric.

[Hoppy6698]

Never mind - Found one on Bavarian Autowerks.

[icemanjs4]

Does anyone know of an aftermarket bumper styled in this fashion? I would like something with a little more flare, but nothing eccentric.

The car in the picture is a 3 series with Sports package (as can be seen by the wheels). It definitely has leather (since the interior is grey and they don't make grey leatherette). It also has an upgraded M-tech II bumper (same as what is found on the OEM ZHP package).

[E46Fanatic]

Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.

[zentenn]

Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.

I'm not so sure about that. The side skirting is not like mine. Mine flares out at the very bottom. I agree with Ice

[LDV330i]

Actually, the car looks more like a ZHP with Sport Package rims. The standard 330i with ZSP has chrome lining of the windows. Only the 325i and 330i ZHP have black trim around the outsides of the windows I believe. The front fascia and rear spoiler are definitely in the ZHP mold.Question about the car was answered earlier in the thread. The original poster was from South Africa. The car has an M (II) Sport Package. The ZHP package was only available in the US and Canadian market.

The packages being describe in this thread only apply to the BMW North America distributor's market. The 318i is not available in the North American (US/Canada). Your car was actually available in Mexico and marketed there as the Formula 1 package, though IIRC in other markets is was called the M Sport package. See snapshot of the BMW Mexico website with a 320i Formula 1 car.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34887

[FenPhen]

I'm not so sure about that. The side skirting is not like mine. Mine flares out at the very bottom. I agree with IceCoupes and sedans have different side panels. It's still the Mtech II kit.

[zentenn]

Coupes and sedans have different side panels. It's still the Mtech II kit.

Hmm... we live, we learn :thumbup:

[Hoppy6698]

Sorry, one more question and I didnt want to start another thread.

What is the difference in ride height between the stock 325i and the 330 PP? I read up front that it lowers 0.6" from the older sport package, but is that the same drop from the stock 325i? Is it also the same drop from front to rear?

Anyone know of aftermarket spring sets that would put my stock 325i close to that ride height without hurting the ride too much?

[bmwbluuu]

I've had bad luck with after market Springs. It just doesn't give the feel of stock springs. If you put bad after market springs, you'll have a bumpy ride. I've got a stock 330ci with 19inch rims. It's not lowered. Look
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/morggg/Joncardone.jpg (http://racingexotics.com)

[dmhessmd]

While I am already grabbing my ankles in anticipation of the flaming I'm about to get, I have to ask, 'cause its killing me - is there something in the door plate, etc that identifies the package?? Long story short, I knew I wanted the BMW the second my foot went down, but I didn't have time to get into the culture before I had a deal I couldn't pass up, so the question of package never came up. It seems like I have some elements of the sport package, but not sure if they were ordered separately. Thx

[KrisL]

While I am already grabbing my ankles in anticipation of the flaming I'm about to get, I have to ask, 'cause its killing me - is there something in the door plate, etc that identifies the package?? Long story short, I knew I wanted the BMW the second my foot went down, but I didn't have time to get into the culture before I had a deal I couldn't pass up, so the question of package never came up. It seems like I have some elements of the sport package, but not sure if they were ordered separately. Thx

Nope. What elements are you talking about?

http://www.bimmerfest.com/wiki/index.php?title=BMW_E46

[LDV330i]

While I am already grabbing my ankles in anticipation of the flaming I'm about to get, I have to ask, 'cause its killing me - is there something in the door plate, etc that identifies the package?? Long story short, I knew I wanted the BMW the second my foot went down, but I didn't have time to get into the culture before I had a deal I couldn't pass up, so the question of package never came up. It seems like I have some elements of the sport package, but not sure if they were ordered separately. ThxThe ZHP package has unique front and rear bumpers that immediately identify it. No need for a tag/decal. :D

[02 330Ci]

I am sure this can not have the ZHP as its a 02 however it seems to have alot of elements of other packages can anyone tell me if it looks like a stock package? I think the car is stock I have not done anything to it.

[KrisL]

Looks like a premium package coupe. No ZHP, no sport package (since it doesn't have the sport seats... but all coupes have the sport suspension).

[02 330Ci]

It does have 245/45/17" wheel and tires, I dont know what the sport seats are though.

[cngzsn]

Looks like a premium package coupe. No ZHP, no sport package (since it doesn't have the sport seats... but all coupes have the sport suspension).

+1 no ZSP or ZHP... Though it looks like it has ZPP (lumbar support) and ZCW (heated seats)..

[jvr826]

It does have 245/45/17" wheel and tires, I dont know what the sport seats are though.

Sport seats have a manually adjustable thigh support that moves in/out, and deeper side bolsters.

[02 330Ci]

Ok Thank you, and yes it has the lumbar and heated seats.