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Fifty_Cent
08-29-2004, 03:15 AM
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JetBlack330i
08-29-2004, 03:35 AM
no

Alex Baumann
08-29-2004, 08:12 AM
No, it's not. There are products, which are much cheaper and will yield much better results.

Fifty_Cent
09-06-2004, 01:05 PM
No, it's not. There are products, which are much cheaper and will yield much better results.
LIke which one Alex?

Alex Baumann
09-06-2004, 01:10 PM
LIke which one Alex?

Kalispera

try Pinnacle Souveran ;)

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71078

Seriously, if you don't mind waxing your car once in a month or so (since you are living Cyprus, where the weather can get really hot), I'd recommend you either Pinnacle Souveran or the P21S wax, both are carnauba based. I've got the Pinnacle from the USA, the P21S is available in the UK.

But the shine and gloss will blow your mind :)

Fifty_Cent
09-06-2004, 01:17 PM
Kalispera

try Pinnacle Souveran ;)

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71078

Seriously, if you don't mind waxing your car once in a month or so (since you are living Cyprus, where the weather can get really hot), I'd recommend you either Pinnacle Souveran or the P21S wax, both are carnauba based. I've got the Pinnacle from the USA, the P21S is available in the UK.

But the shine and gloss will blow your mind :)
Myyyyyyy myyyyyyyyy....
Kalispera Alex, pos eisai simera?

Elpizo na apolayses toys olympiakous.

So is P21S caurnaba based? I thought it was synthetic or something......

I must say, your cars shine looks TOP!!!

Artslinger
09-07-2004, 08:17 AM
Myyyyyyy myyyyyyyyy....
Kalispera Alex, pos eisai simera?

Elpizo na apolayses toys olympiakous.

So is P21S caurnaba based? I thought it was synthetic or something......

I must say, your cars shine looks TOP!!!

"P21S Carnauba Wax is a hand-poured blend of German waxes, proprietary ingredients and pure Brazilian Carnauba wax."

Mantis
09-10-2004, 03:48 AM
Paying that much for wax,well I don't think it's worth it.

As a former detailer,I got to try many different products.I have found a few brands that stood above the rest.

Home products....

Mothers...this brand makes very fine products from wheel cleaners to paste wax.There cleaner wax is great.Working with these products is a pleasure.

Maguries....excellent professional and home products.There waxes are very fine.

Professionally I perferred 3m.They have the best compunds,cleaners and waxes on the market.this is what top end bodyshops use and high end detail shops.

Dan

JetBlack330i
09-10-2004, 05:45 AM
No ofense intended, but we're talking one notch above professional detailing.
The products you evaluated/used may be the best values out there which still allow you to make a profit, but we're talking the best shine.
It's like you're recommending a BMW (best mass produced brand) and we're talking exotics.
Yes, I realized the original post was inquiring about price, but I feel that if Zymol gave the best shine, unquestionably, people here would have said it was worth the price.

Fifty_Cent
09-10-2004, 07:00 AM
No ofense intended, but we're talking one notch above professional detailing.
The products you evaluated/used may be the best values out there which still allow you to make a profit, but we're talking the best shine.
It's like you're recommending a BMW (best mass produced brand) and we're talking exotics.
Yes, I realized the original post was inquiring about price, but I feel that if Zymol gave the best shine, unquestionably, people here would have said it was worth the price.
Well, does it?

I have used 3M so far, (Hand glaze to be exact) and I must say that I am happy.

As for professional finish, what does that exactly differenciate from a home product/>?

Dave 330i
09-10-2004, 10:07 AM
Nothing fancy. A bottle of Turtle carnauba wax costs less than $3.00 at Wal-Mart. Wax your car every 3 months.

HW
09-10-2004, 10:17 AM
$0.50: you drive a bmw, not a honda. :tsk: you need to use higher grade stuff, and no less! like these:
http://www.zymol.com/alant2.htm
http://www.zymol.com/_borders/atlant.gif

http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm
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why skimp. :tsk:





















:p :angel: :stickpoke :D

JetBlack330i
09-10-2004, 10:20 AM
Well, does it?

I have used 3M so far, (Hand glaze to be exact) and I must say that I am happy.

As for professional finish, what does that exactly differenciate from a home product/>?
Previous posts were unanimous: Zymol is not worth what they are asking for it.
If you're happy with 3M or Turtle Wax, then you should stick with that. But if you're like me, you'll grow out of that soon enough (yes, I've been there, done that) and you'll be looking for the next step up.
Alex's pictures enticed me just enough. I don't think that shine is worth $69 they are asking, but at $42 (sale) it was worth it for me. I ordered it. Will post side by side pics (I literally want to do one side Zaino and one side Zaino+Pinnacle) when I get a chance to use it. :thumbup:

JetBlack330i
09-10-2004, 10:23 AM
$0.50: you drive a bmw, not a honda. :tsk: you need to use higher grade stuff, and no less! like these:
why skimp. :tsk:

:p :angel: :stickpoke :D
:rofl:
Is that in Yens?

hockeynut
09-10-2004, 06:37 PM
$0.50: you drive a bmw, not a honda. :tsk: you need to use higher grade stuff, and no less! like these:
http://www.zymol.com/alant2.htm
http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm

why skimp. :tsk:


:yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

Next time my wife says I spend too much on Zaino, I will just refer her to these links.

vexed
09-10-2004, 06:46 PM
Alex's pictures enticed me just enough. I don't think that shine is worth $69 they are asking, but at $42 (sale) it was worth it for me. I ordered it. :thumbup:
It's for my wife's car.:eeps: :eeps:

F1Crazy
09-10-2004, 08:54 PM
Most of you probably know that the key to great looking shine is in paint preparation and unless you're like Alex and keep your car in pristine condition (stored in a garage most of its life :eeps: ) this is where you should concentrate your efforts. Don't worry that much about the wax you're going to use, it's just a finishing touch in the whole process.

Having said that I realize that there are some people that will look for the best, for me the best ends around $100... Latest Barney pics only confirm my findings.

If you're looking for the best wax for the money nothing beats P21S.

HW
09-10-2004, 11:23 PM
:yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

Next time my wife says I spend too much on Zaino, I will just refer her to these links.
yes, but the vintage is a lifetime supply. refill is for free. we could do a group on one and mail that one jar around.

Mantis
09-11-2004, 09:37 AM
JetBlack330i,
Your points are well noted.But Zymol is very expensive.I wonder if it's worth the extra cost as the orignal thead starter.

As one noted,prep to ones finish is more important then the finsih wax used.I can make a car shine like glass with compund.3m makes very good products.They are not cheap.As I noted 3m products you will find in most high end bodyshops.It's whats perferred not by price but how good it works.When you do something for a living,you want to use the best of the best to make your job easier and productive.Some owners will spend the extra money on products that set there business apart from the next on down the street.

I have no experience with Zymol and would love to get some for testing.I could state my opnion better not by price but buy the end results.

I'm sure they have an entire line of compunds,polishes and finishing products.If they work better then others no matter what the cost,then the value is there.caring for ones car is deep passion I have.I love to wash,wax,detail my love.I plan on check ing out there web site.

Everyone here makes good points to there own right.

I will say this, just because someting costs more,doesn't mean it's better.

Alex Baumann
09-11-2004, 10:03 AM
For surface preparations, I'm with Mantis, 3M is the shiznit. With proper equipment you'll get really good results with 3M products (I'm using the Perfect-It series).

But for the 'last touch', carnauba is giving the killer shine. As it's been stated before, the longevity sucks, but products like P21S or Pinnacle can be applied and buffed in 15-20 minutes without getting your hands dirty.

On another note, I've applied the second Souveran coat today. That stuff is unreal :thumbup:

Mantis
09-11-2004, 10:24 AM
Alex,
the Perfect it series is what I stand behind.Over the years I had such good results with that product line.

Black and Decker vari speed to 3000 rpm buffer is the way to go.

I perfer hair cutting pads and foam polish pads.

Dan