One series questions

[Roaders]

Hi Guys

Hope someone can help.

I am pretty sure that I am going to go for a one series. I was going to get a Mk 5 Golf until I saw some of the toys on the one series options list. I love gadgets and the idea of voice control, keyless access, a start button ect is too good to miss. Only thing is the car will cost around £27,000!

Anyway, I have some questions. not sure if anyone will be able to help but here we go:

Does the professional Navigation system / cd changer allow you to play MP3's?
How do you tell the sat nav where you are going - i.e. do you put in a postcode or an address or what. Can't quite visaulise how this will work with the iDrive controller.

thanks for your help.

[andy_thomas]

Hi Guys

Hope someone can help.

I am pretty sure that I am going to go for a one series. I was going to get a Mk 5 Golf until I saw some of the toys on the one series options list. I love gadgets and the idea of voice control, keyless access, a start button ect is too good to miss. Only thing is the car will cost around £27,000!

Anyway, I have some questions. not sure if anyone will be able to help but here we go:

Does the professional Navigation system / cd changer allow you to play MP3's?
How do you tell the sat nav where you are going - i.e. do you put in a postcode or an address or what. Can't quite visaulise how this will work with the iDrive controller.

thanks for your help.
With all due respect, you must be absolutely out of your mind to be spending £27k on something that size. This is *not* a premium product. Crumbs, for £27k, you can have a 330i SE with nappa leather. Why would you bother with a 1er?

[Roaders]

I don't like the 300 series!

Also you wouldn't be able to get a 300 series with all the gadgets I am getting in the one series for that much.

I'm pretty new to the whole new car / bmw thing so I may well be wrong though!

I only really want another hatch back. As I said I was going to go for the Golf but it doesn't have the options that the BMW does.

[Alex Baumann]

Opel Astra

I have configured a Sport 1.9 CDTi with all the goodies. It was EUR 12.000,- cheaper than a similarly equipped 120d.

[Roaders]

SOrry for being stupid - what is a CDTi ?

[Alex Baumann]

Click for Opel (Vauxhall) Astra (http://vauxhall.co.uk/showroom/search/brand.jhtml?brand=New+Astra&vehicleType=Car&source=carhub&campaignid=newastrainternal&bannerid=horizon&advertiserid=internal)

Common Rail Diesel Turbo Injection.

[andy_thomas]

I don't like the 300 series!

Also you wouldn't be able to get a 300 series with all the gadgets I am getting in the one series for that much.

I'm pretty new to the whole new car / bmw thing so I may well be wrong though!

I only really want another hatch back. As I said I was going to go for the Golf but it doesn't have the options that the BMW does.

True - the 330 won't have the same equipment levels as a completely loaded 120. (What's not to like, by the way? In every objective capacity the 3er is a better car, not least because it costs _exactly_ the same as the equivalent 3er in the UK market.)

BMWGB (like many other importers) thoroughly gouges you on the optional extras - items which will have zero, or near-zero, resale value and which serve almost entirely to improve BMW's margins significantly. The 1 is a small, Golf-sized economically-minded family car, not a premium luxury car. Ignore the price. 2nd-hand buyers simply do not expect electric everything. Just *think* about what £27k will buy you in the UK market. Lawks, you can even buy a brand-new 525i for that.

If a small car with no (and I really do mean no - just check out the other threads here) rear legroom, downmarket dashboard plastics, a four-cylinder engine and a luxury-car price tag is really what you want, then there's nothing stopping you. Personally I just hope you're the only one, and BMWGB doesn't get any more encouragement! In the long term, a few extra push-button labour-saving devices will not offset the 1er's shortcomings at that price point. And the feeling amongst British-based BMW enthusiasts is that the 1er is almost criminally overpriced given its daft rear legroom and poor standard equipment levels.

Walking into a dealership and speccing the bejesus out of a small car like a 1er will have the sales staff fawning all over you before they go out the back and have a good belly laugh. A fully loaded 1er is about the highest-margin car BMW builds; for a small car like the 1er, that's either (a) a neat trick or (b) a cynical ploy.

Frankly, for £27k I'd rather buy a stripped 320d ES* with satnav and give the balance to charity than contribute to the BMWGB MD's golf club fund by buying a loaded 1er. But like I said, there's nothing stopping you.

* Hint: metallic paint, an M bodystyling kit and 17" alloys are now no-cost options on every 3er. For the lower-end, discounted 3ers such as the ES models, BMW has also turned several other options, including foglights, autodim mirror, climate control and tyre pressure monitor into no-cost options. Just get a dealer to price the fripperies for you...

[Axcu]

With all these price comparation threads "why buy 1-series when you can get a 3-series for the 'same price'" you guys are totally forgetting the age of the E46. The E46 is swiftly nearing it's maturity (like it or not).

Then again, the 3-series is also the car series I'd say most of us here on Bimmerfest, Bimmerforums, E46Fanatics and other BMW forums happen to own or are enthusiastic about. It's something we've grown accustomed to and still, view it as our product, if not THE product.

What we need is to give some room to the 1-series, hell, it may be a bit funny looking, but I can honestly say that I would buy it ASAP unless I hadn't already fallen for the E46 coupe a couple years back.

Also, it's a NEW model. Okay, you can go buy a new E46 for a similar sticker price than a "fully loaded" 1-series and it would be a new car.. but not a new car chassis wise. 1-series is the thing, now, currently.

The 1-series may astound many of the 3-series drivers..and let me say, there's some tension (and also fear) within the community of the new 1. It's the next production cycle product from BMW, thus it may (and should, mind you) very well chase the older 3-series hard to the corner in handling and general driveability. And this is a good thing, as BMW is topping its products with new models. Those (including me, currently) who aren't actually too keen to get on the 1-train can only wait what BMW will put out into the game with the upcoming E90/E93. (We never were the target audience for the 1-series anyway, unless the aim was to get us buy a second vehicle for the Ms or kids.)

Also, great comments great analyzation altoghether in this thread about the materials etc. Btw, have you noticed how the majority wants to see cars proportions to stop growing but then again the issue of backseat room etc. is thrown in. How will the manufacturers react? Probably "bloat" the cars even more (ack).

One more word about the "fear" I was talking about, take a look on the Nurburgring this fall...there's actually something cooking at BMW which does make my 330Ci tension up with fear... if you're close to the location and lucky enough, you'll know what I'm talking about.. :thumbup:

[Roaders]

Thanks for all the comments guys - I have listened to them all.

I do realise that it is a lot of money to spend on a car that big (will actualyl be about £26k as I'll be going for the 118d) but the reason I am going for the BMW not the golf is because of the options list. I know that I won't get teh money back when I sell the car but hoepfully I'll keep the car for a very long time anyway.

The back leg room is a problem but I don't have people in th back taht often. Also there is a lot of leg room in the fron so when people are the back the front seats can be moved forward to accomodate them.

I am still undecided. The more sensible way to go is to buy the golf for some £5k less but if I did I would be wishing I had the options from the BMW.

Now, if I can get this work finished early I'll be off to the garage again today for another look.

Cheers.

[andy_thomas]

With all these price comparation threads "why buy 1-series when you can get a 3-series for the 'same price'" you guys are totally forgetting the age of the E46. The E46 is swiftly nearing it's maturity (like it or not).

What we need is to give some room to the 1-series, hell, it may be a bit funny looking, but I can honestly say that I would buy it ASAP unless I hadn't already fallen for the E46 coupe a couple years back.

Also, it's a NEW model. Okay, you can go buy a new E46 for a similar sticker price than a "fully loaded" 1-series and it would be a new car.. but not a new car chassis wise. 1-series is the thing, now, currently.

That's it?

The 1er has rear suspension design more similar to the 5er. It is not new technology. (Not at that price it isn't, anyway.) If "new" means rear legroom which is a bad joke, I'll take old. Vs the smaller versions of the 3er (like the ti, which is extremely similar in all respects), I see nothing except newness to support the 1er's case. Not at £26k, anyway.

The 1-series may astound many of the 3-series drivers...

How? Road tests so far have said how similar the 1er feels to the 3er. "It feels like a 3er, only a bit smaller and sharper", they say. What a surprise.

[Alex Baumann]

One more word about the "fear" I was talking about, take a look on the Nurburgring this fall...there's actually something cooking at BMW which does make my 330Ci tension up with fear... if you're close to the location and lucky enough, you'll know what I'm talking about.. :thumbup:

I'm close to the location and visiting the Ring regularly.

:dunno:

[Axcu]

:confused:

Our team saw something.. which went damn fast through the 'Ring.. and it wasn't a 4-cyl 1.

We'll see.

[Alex Baumann]

:confused:

Our team saw something.. which went damn fast through the 'Ring.. and it wasn't a 4-cyl 1.

We'll see.

Ah, you mean the 1 Series with an M engine.

Maybe they were testing the new 6-cylinder engines. :eeps:

[MiniRoll]

Hi Guys

Hope someone can help.

I am pretty sure that I am going to go for a one series. I was going to get a Mk 5 Golf until I saw some of the toys on the one series options list. I love gadgets and the idea of voice control, keyless access, a start button ect is too good to miss. Only thing is the car will cost around £27,000!

Anyway, I have some questions. not sure if anyone will be able to help but here we go:

Does the professional Navigation system / cd changer allow you to play MP3's?
How do you tell the sat nav where you are going - i.e. do you put in a postcode or an address or what. Can't quite visaulise how this will work with the iDrive controller.

thanks for your help.

Hi Roaders. I've bought a 120d SE. I haven't got SatNav, so cannot help with your questions. But I know a man who can ;)

Have a look at:

http://www.babybmw.net/

I think you find if you post there you may get an answer to your question :)

[Roaders]

THanks

[MiniRoll]

THanksNo problem :thumbup:

It helped me a great deal when I was speccing my 1. And they're a great bunch there too :D

[Roaders]

No problem :thumbup:

It helped me a great deal when I was speccing my 1. And they're a great bunch there too :D

Yeah, perfect. Jsut what I was lookign for.

They'll all regret the day you gave me the link the number of questions I am going ot be asking!

[MikeC]

If you are talking about size/price ratio then you shouldn't be looking at BMW at all!! Only thing that should matter is that are you happy with your choice. When I bought my car I used too much money, but I am happy with the car. If I had left out sport package etc. to save money, I would be regretting that now. I have never understood why something that is expensive should be something big. When you buy car like BMW it is a emotional thing. If you buy a car to take your and kids to soccer training, then you should consider how big the car is. But if you buy your car because of its driving dynamics, then choose the one that you like most, no matter how big it is. Car is always a compromise, you can't have all in one package.

[andy_thomas]

If you are talking about size/price ratio then you shouldn't be looking at BMW at all!! Only thing that should matter is that are you happy with your choice. When I bought my car I used too much money, but I am happy with the car. If I had left out sport package etc. to save money, I would be regretting that now. I have never understood why something that is expensive should be something big. When you buy car like BMW it is a emotional thing. If you buy a car to take your and kids to soccer training, then you should consider how big the car is. But if you buy your car because of its driving dynamics, then choose the one that you like most, no matter how big it is. Car is always a compromise, you can't have all in one package.
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