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Since the first Touring came on the market in 1971 the integrity of the car has remained the same... a beautifull sports wagon...
BMW has made a special edition called the "Edition 33"...
This edition comes in Silverstone Metalic, Le Mans Blau Metalic and Estoril Blau Metalic...:thumbup: LOVE IT!!!
gojira-san
10-01-2004, 08:34 AM
Since the first Touring came on the market in 1971 the integrity of the car has remained the same... a beautifull sports wagon...
BMW has made a special edition called the "Edition 33"...
This edition comes in Silverstone Metalic, Le Mans Blau Metalic and Estoril Blau Metalic...:thumbup: LOVE IT!!!
Nice! Now if they only would stick some form of a ZHP package in there... :D
norihaga
10-01-2004, 08:40 AM
Since the first Touring came on the market in 1971 the integrity of the car has remained the same... a beautifull sports wagon...
BMW has made a special edition called the "Edition 33"...
This edition comes in Silverstone Metalic, Le Mans Blau Metalic and Estoril Blau Metalic...:thumbup: LOVE IT!!!
Where did you see this? I love Tourings... :thumbup:
Where did you see this? I love Tourings... :thumbup:
Then why do you have a coupe? :dunno:
Where did you see this? I love Tourings... :thumbup:I get the info email from BMW Germany and I got it this morning... just check out their website at www.bmw.de (http://www.bmw.de) I love Tourings too, I prefer the 330iT with ZHP package...:D
norihaga
10-01-2004, 09:00 AM
Then why do you have a coupe? :dunno:
I bought used. Aside from the lack of a 3.0 version, there were no used manual tourings kicking around.
Wow, an M6 owner :bow:
norihaga
10-01-2004, 09:30 AM
I get the info email from BMW Germany and I got it this morning... just check out their website at www.bmw.de (http://www.bmw.de) I love Tourings too, I prefer the 330iT with ZHP package...:D
Now we just need BMW USA to bring it over, and while they're at it, the 330Cd :D
I woul consider buying a 330iT Alpina B3S in the Netherlands put it on Dutch License and ship it to L.A. as my house inventory (free of tax)... I spoke with my wife about that and she thought it was a cool plan... :D
I woul consider buying a 330iT Alpina B3S in the Netherlands put it on Dutch License and ship it to L.A. as my house inventory (free of tax)... I spoke with my wife about that and she thought it was a cool plan... :D
That sounds like a good idea, but how long could you get away with driving it? Aren't there limitations on how long you can have a foreign car in the US?
norihaga
10-01-2004, 10:06 AM
I woul consider buying a 330iT Alpina B3S in the Netherlands put it on Dutch License and ship it to L.A. as my house inventory (free of tax)... I spoke with my wife about that and she thought it was a cool plan... :D
Great plan, but I don't know if you can get it past the customs people. I guess since the engine was homologated here it might be OK. I tried to ship my old Yamaha TRX-850 from the UK to the US...there was no way they would let it in, unless I paid some enormous amount of money to make it 'legal'.
That's why you don't see a lot of grey import cars here, unlike in the UK, where you can easily buy a Corvette in canada and ship it over.
norihaga
10-01-2004, 10:07 AM
That sounds like a good idea, but how long could you get away with driving it? Aren't there limitations on how long you can have a foreign car in the US?
I _think_ there is a one-year limit _and_ a bond requirement, but it's been 5 years since I checked. :(
RandyB
10-01-2004, 10:40 AM
Hey at least they put the best looking wheels on it... :rofl:
That sounds like a good idea, but how long could you get away with driving it? Aren't there limitations on how long you can have a foreign car in the US? I have to ask a friend who actually took a Mercedes C32 AMG to the US... he told me before that he had to have it on Dutch Plates for 6 months before he could ship it to the US and put in on US plates without a problem. I think he paid only $750 for headlight adjustment and some small stuff... Since I'm still a Dutch Citizen I can legally bring my entire funishings of my house including my car over to the US without paying tax...
I tried the same with my 1999 Porsche GT3 and Pasadena DMV said they would charge me around $25,000 for the approval etc because that specific model / limited edition was not approved for US sale and some other BS.... I ended up selling that car in the Netherlands... Now if it's either a regular 330iT or a 330iT B3S I would not see the problem and I would gladly pay the $750 in fee's. I called BMW with regards to warranty and they said if the car was honestly bought at a Dutch BMW dealer they would transfer the warranty but they would charge a fee...
Sooo, one way or another it would cost me about $2k to have it here...
norihaga
10-01-2004, 10:53 AM
I have to ask a friend who actually took a Mercedes C32 AMG to the US... he told me before that he had to have it on Dutch Plates for 6 months before he could ship it to the US and put in on US plates without a problem. I think he paid only $750 for headlight adjustment and some small stuff... Since I'm still a Dutch Citizen I can legally bring my entire funishings of my house including my car over to the US without paying tax...
I tried the same with my 1999 Porsche GT3 and Pasadena DMV said they would charge me around $25,000 for the approval etc because that specific model / limited edition was not approved for US sale and some other BS.... I ended up selling that car in the Netherlands... Now if it's either a regular 330iT or a 330iT B3S I would not see the problem and I would gladly pay the $750 in fee's. I called BMW with regards to warranty and they said if the car was honestly bought at a Dutch BMW dealer they would transfer the warranty but they would charge a fee...
Sooo, one way or another it would cost me about $2k to have it here...
Right, that's what happened with my TRX - no type approval of that specific model was done for the US - actually, its motor wasn't even homologated here. So I would have to go through the whole process that Yamaha would if they wanted to sell it here! It's especially silly for a motorcycle...what is it, they wanted to make sure the airbags worked properly? ;)
One thing to consider is that perhaps it was only a headlight issue with the C-AMG because AMG use one emissions specification (i.e. most restrictive, or maybe two specifications, one for California, one for the rest of the world!) for their entire production, due to the small size of the production runs they do. I can see the EU specification 3-series having perhaps different emissions profiles (ignition, cam timing, catalytic converters, etc.) to the US version, but that's just speculation.
:dunno:
andy_thomas
10-01-2004, 11:16 AM
Since the first Touring came on the market in 1971 the integrity of the car has remained the same... a beautifull sports wagon...
BMW has made a special edition called the "Edition 33"...
This edition comes in Silverstone Metalic, Le Mans Blau Metalic and Estoril Blau Metalic...:thumbup: LOVE IT!!!
Nice - but this must be the sixth special edition in as many months. I hope BMW ends it there - there's another six to go until the new 3er, and at least six again before the replacement for the Touring.
norihaga
10-01-2004, 12:57 PM
Nice - but this must be the sixth special edition in as many months. I hope BMW ends it there - there's another six to go until the new 3er, and at least six again before the replacement for the Touring.
Yes, it makes me a little worried that there are no more station wagons in BMW's future when they start doing 'special editions'.
Wallenrod
10-01-2004, 04:46 PM
Yes, it makes me a little worried that there are no more station wagons in BMW's future when they start doing 'special editions'.
There are, there are. Just not for the US. Both E60 and E90 will have a touring version. As a matter of fact during my ED I saw more wagon E46s than sedans in Europe.
If there was a 330dT sold here, I would trade one of our 330i for it in a heartbeat. Dreams, dreams...
armaq
10-01-2004, 07:07 PM
:yummy:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37621&stc=1
Thomas Andersen
10-01-2004, 08:36 PM
Wow, that is a great looking touring. Is that a 325 or some other european model?
Wagon Man
10-01-2004, 08:48 PM
:yummy:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=37621&stc=1
NICE ... :thumbup: I need to start saving up for the M-bumper and ZHP wheels ...
Correct me if I'm worng pls, an old issue of Bimmer Mag had a ASC supercharged an iT based on "330" .. hence I always under the impresion that there is 330iT available in Europe ... that's true, right? Hence I've ben saying "bring the 330iT over here .."...
andy_thomas
10-02-2004, 02:51 AM
Yes, it makes me a little worried that there are no more station wagons in BMW's future when they start doing 'special editions'.
The reason for all of these is the stagnant domestic market. None of these specials have filtered to the UK market, where (partly due to saturation advertising and aggressive discounting) 3er sales are roaring away and no further incentives are needed. In London, there's a 3er touring parked on every street. It's got nothing to do with BMW killing off the touring...
andy_thomas
10-02-2004, 02:54 AM
NICE ... :thumbup: I need to start saving up for the M-bumper and ZHP wheels ...
Correct me if I'm worng pls, an old issue of Bimmer Mag had a ASC supercharged an iT based on "330" .. hence I always under the impresion that there is 330iT available in Europe ... that's true, right? Hence I've ben saying "bring the 330iT over here .."...
Available tourings:
316i
318i
318d
320d
320i
325i
325xi
330i
330xi
330d
330xd
All available with M Sport Packet (Style M68s or M135s, bodykit, etc. etc.).
norihaga
10-04-2004, 07:21 AM
The reason for all of these is the stagnant domestic market. None of these specials have filtered to the UK market, where (partly due to saturation advertising and aggressive discounting) 3er sales are roaring away and no further incentives are needed. In London, there's a 3er touring parked on every street. It's got nothing to do with BMW killing off the touring...
Interesting...
Over here, I get the impression that they don't do specials because it's wrong for the brand image as much as anything else. Of course, I don't think they've ever really had a truly bad year here since introducing the 3 series...
andy_thomas
10-04-2004, 10:01 AM
Interesting...
Over here, I get the impression that they don't do specials because it's wrong for the brand image as much as anything else. Of course, I don't think they've ever really had a truly bad year here since introducing the 3 series...
As we've seen, the driver for increased US sales is usually financial incentive rather than product enhancement. It's sort of the same in the UK, although as the current 3er runs out, BMW GB is now offering metallic paint, big wheels, bodykits, leather trim, etc for free or heavily discounted. Unfortunately all this does is depress the residuals of cars whose first owners forked out for those options in the first place, and irritate said owners. Like me :(.
norihaga
10-04-2004, 12:24 PM
As we've seen, the driver for increased US sales is usually financial incentive rather than product enhancement. It's sort of the same in the UK, although as the current 3er runs out, BMW GB is now offering metallic paint, big wheels, bodykits, leather trim, etc for free or heavily discounted. Unfortunately all this does is depress the residuals of cars whose first owners forked out for those options in the first place, and irritate said owners. Like me :(.
I don't think BMW has ever given that sort of incentive over here, though they do give low-rate finance on used cars...one reason why I bought one (2.9%). They never have a problem selling the 3-series, and like Mercedes (if less so) they won't discount so the brand image is maintained and the Max Powah readers can't buy them.
For example, I don't recall what Mercedes' price structure is like in the UK, but over here you can buy a C320 coupe for $29k, but you have to fork out $38k for a C320 'sport sedan'. Buyers here like their expensive German car to be expensive, so that their employees can't afford to drive them.
Sorry to hear the incentives are killing the resale value of your car. Look on the bright side: you're getting the 1 series AND you can buy a 325 compact.
:thumbup:
Alex Baumann
10-17-2004, 10:45 AM
Edition 33 in Silverstone
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/58092.jpg
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/58091.jpg
andy_thomas
10-17-2004, 11:11 AM
Sorry to hear the incentives are killing the resale value of your car. Look on the bright side: you're getting the 1 series AND you can buy a 325 compact.
:thumbup:
True - the 325ti is not much of an oil painting, but it's a hairy little motor car.
I'm not a fan on the 1 series, as you can see by the ire I've generated on the 1er board :). If the price wasn't so high, an the bodyshell more appropriate to the overall utility of the car (think 3-door rather than 5) I'd think more of it. As it is, it seems just - well - confused.
andy_thomas
10-17-2004, 11:12 AM
Edition 33 in Silverstone
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/58092.jpg
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/58091.jpg
Nice. Interesting that BMW doesn't specify Shadowline exterior trim for the 4-cyl M Sport II-equipped cars. I always wondered why that was...
Alex Baumann
10-17-2004, 01:51 PM
Nice. Interesting that BMW doesn't specify Shadowline exterior trim for the 4-cyl M Sport II-equipped cars. I always wondered why that was...
Andy, where did you see this info ? I have checked the car configurator and the latest price and options list, no mention of this.
norihaga
10-17-2004, 02:54 PM
True - the 325ti is not much of an oil painting, but it's a hairy little motor car.
I'm not a fan on the 1 series, as you can see by the ire I've generated on the 1er board :). If the price wasn't so high, an the bodyshell more appropriate to the overall utility of the car (think 3-door rather than 5) I'd think more of it. As it is, it seems just - well - confused.
I liked EVO's suggestion - buy an E46 M3 Evo and save your money on the 1 series
:thumbup:
andy_thomas
10-18-2004, 10:15 AM
Andy, where did you see this info ? I have checked the car configurator and the latest price and options list, no mention of this.
Observation only. The touring in your photos - assuming that it has the full M Sport II complement of stuff, not just rims and wings - doesn't appear to have the glossy finish to the B pillar, mirror base, and glass surrounds. As it has black grille slats I assume this touring is a four-potter.
Also - and this level of specs apprecation is a little sad, granted - I considered a 318i Sport (USians: think PP without the drivetrain tweaks) before buying my stripper. When mooching around a few dealer showrooms I noticed then that the Sport trim, as applied to the 318i at least, did not feature Shadowline, despite the BMWGB online configurator saying it has.
I find I can replicate the Shadowline finish nicely by applying Gummi-pflege to the regular matt black finish, thereby saving myself five hundred quid :)
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