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jetstream23
11-15-2004, 02:04 AM
Here's the short story.... I am choosing TiAg over Carbon Black for an M3 because of the effort required to keep black looking good. However, everyone knows how killer Carbon Black can look....the depth of shine can be incredible when prepared correctly. My question is....can I get Titanium Silver to look really deep and shiny, and if so, how? I know that lighter colors are easier to keep clean but don't have the depth of color that darker colors do. Please help......and post any TiAg pics you might have that show what is possible.

Many thanks.

F1Crazy
11-15-2004, 05:20 AM
Check this (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57044) thread for pics of a deep looking TiAg.

There is a link in that thread to another one explaining what was done to the car but I'll make it short: everything is in paint preparation.
Start with clay (rather obvious), then pick a polish of your choice, level of aggressiveness depending on condition of the paint. We used Einszett (1Z) Paint Polish (green bottle), one of my all time favorites. This was followed with Klasse All-In-One and finally Klasse Sealant Glaze. I recommend 2-3 coats of SG but remember to give it time to fully cure. We applied 1Z and AIO with PC, SG by hand but after our recent session (link) (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77829) we're going to use PC to apply SG.

The car in pictures had only Klasse on and the look was very reflective, like a highly polished stone, to gain more depth Prop applied P21S carnauba (knowing him several coats...). It's hard to capture this in pictures but car looks simply wet. The combo of Klasse and P21S is very durable, the car still looks great today and won't need a lot of work once we get our hands on it. We have a new idea we wanna try, but that is a different story...

BahnBaum
11-15-2004, 06:27 AM
Check this (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57044) thread for pics of a deep looking TiAg.

There is a link in that thread to another one explaining what was done to the car but I'll make it short: everything is in paint preparation.
Start with clay (rather obvious), then pick a polish of your choice, level of aggressiveness depending on condition of the paint. We used Einszett (1Z) Paint Polish (green bottle), one of my all time favorites. This was followed with Klasse All-In-One and finally Klasse Sealant Glaze. I recommend 2-3 coats of SG but remember to give it time to fully cure. We applied 1Z and AIO with PC, SG by hand but after our recent session (link) (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77829) we're going to use PC to apply SG.

The car in pictures had only Klasse on and the look was very reflective, like a highly polished stone, to gain more depth Prop applied P21S carnauba (knowing him several coats...). It's hard to capture this in pictures but car looks simply wet. The combo of Klasse and P21S is very durable, the car still looks great today and won't need a lot of work once we get our hands on it. We have a new idea we wanna try, but that is a different story...

Mine's Silver Gray, and I'm happy with AIO and 3 coats of SG. Not sure if these pics better captures the depth of the finish or the disorganized garage....

http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/11279417-L.jpg
http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/11279421-L.jpg
http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/11279422-L.jpg

Alex

F1Crazy
11-15-2004, 06:41 AM
Mine's Silver Gray, and I'm happy with AIO and 3 coats of SG. Not sure if these pics better captures the depth of the finish or the disorganized garage....

Alex

You just wanted to show us your helmet, didn't ya? :D


Very cool pics :thumbup:
Have you thought about adding carnauba to the mix?

F1Crazy
11-15-2004, 06:44 AM
BTW, I haven't seen the green X5 after Prop topped it with P21S but he says that it deepened the shine and made the color stand out a little better. I'm sure we'll see the pics soon.

BahnBaum
11-15-2004, 07:12 AM
Have you thought about adding carnauba to the mix?

I didn't think the color would benefit from it. But maybe next time I'll give it a shot...

I did put Pinnacle on top of 3 coats of SG on my e30 though.....
http://alextbaum.smugmug.com/photos/8995829-L.jpg

Alex

Ack
11-15-2004, 07:27 AM
Here's a few of my TiAg with two coats of Zaino and one coat of quick detail spray. :D

http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/772Borla_Tips_Side_11.jpg

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13410

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11652

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11654

jetstream23
11-15-2004, 05:55 PM
Much thanks, those pictures look great.

PropellerHead
11-15-2004, 07:23 PM
BTW, I haven't seen the green X5 after Prop topped it with P21S but he says that it deepened the shine and made the color stand out a little better. I'm sure we'll see the pics soon.Patience! TWO more coats of carNOOOOOBA (P21s) and I'll snap up some pics. We need to scout a locale. (Isn't how they say it when they're talking about photo shoots?) (through the teeth all snooty like) low-cal? :D

Weaselboy
11-15-2004, 07:44 PM
Am I the only one that thought this was going to be a porn thread?

PropellerHead
11-15-2004, 08:47 PM
Am I the only one that thought this was going to be a porn thread?Am I the only one who found it to BE a porn thread?

KP
11-15-2004, 10:09 PM
Crappy pictures (56k no):
One coat of z-5, two coats z-2, three sprays of z-6 b/w each:
http://www.ncaudi.org/gallery/albums/album81/Picture_003.jpg
http://www.ncaudi.org/gallery/albums/album81/Picture_021.jpg

Artslinger
11-16-2004, 07:37 AM
How do you guys keep the front end of your cars looking so nice, mine is full of chips.

Godsogd
11-16-2004, 08:05 AM
Beautiful Stuff F1 - My newbie is AspenAG and I can't wait to get a break in the weather here to go at it with some elbow and a new PC. I noticed the high gloss on the black center window frames. How was that gloss achieved or perhaps it was never lost?:dunno:

My black bits including the trim on the side view mirrors are a bit oxidized and dull - can it be buffed out to retore it's original glory?

TOGWT
11-16-2004, 08:08 AM
~One manís opinion / observations~

Klasse All-In-One x2 (to ensure complete coverage Supper Glaze x3 +Pinnacle Signature Series Wax- is a low-solvent Carnauba wax (making it an ideal LSP) and polymer mix that is perfect for metallic painted surfaces and for light coloured vehicle paint, providing a clean bright shine.

~Hope this helps~

Knowledge unshared is experience wasted [each one / teach one]
justadumbarchitect / so I question everything/ JonM

BahnBaum
11-16-2004, 08:29 AM
How do you guys keep the front end of your cars looking so nice, mine is full of chips.

Clearbra.

Alex

PropellerHead
11-16-2004, 08:52 AM
Beautiful Stuff F1 - My newbie is AspenAG and I can't wait to get a break in the weather here to go at it with some elbow and a new PC. I noticed the high gloss on the black center window frames. How was that gloss achieved or perhaps it was never lost?:dunno:

My black bits including the trim on the side view mirrors are a bit oxidized and dull - can it be buffed out to retore it's original glory?My car is a 2000 540. It wasn't until '01 that the sport package 540s started coming with high gloss trim. I went a little crazy in June of '03 and replaced my matte black trim with the high gloss stuff. (click) (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33245&highlight=post+1000) I did a few other ridiculous things at the same time, but I am still thrilled nearly 18 months after! Definately worth the time and money for me!

Your results will depend on how deep the oxidation of your trim is. The best you can do is try with a polish, first. If that doesn't work for you, you may elect to try something a bit more aggressive like a clear coat safe rubbing compound. We did this on the X to get rid of some swirls. I haven't tried it on oxidized trim.

MaulMaul
11-19-2004, 07:37 PM
:bigpimp: undefinedHere's a few of my TiAg with two coats of Zaino and one coat of quick detail spray. :D

http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/772Borla_Tips_Side_11.jpg

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13410

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11652

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=11654What type and size are your wheels? They look great!!!