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exthree
01-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Can I get the definitive answer on pairing my mobile phone with the X3 telephone via bluetooth. I've read all the previous threads on this and other message boards and their attachments. Nothing works! Is there a BMW rep. monitoring this site?

MPoWeRMAN
01-10-2005, 02:31 PM
Go to Roadfly.org, look up all posts related to bluetooth, and there in one of the posts is a list of all phones that will work with BMW bluetooth. If you have an 05 with BMW assist, you have BMW's best version of bluetooth. Also, reps from BMW NA customer relations monitor that board.

exthree
01-10-2005, 02:49 PM
Go to Roadfly.org, look up all posts related to bluetooth, and there in one of the posts is a list of all phones that will work with BMW bluetooth. If you have an 05 with BMW assist, you have BMW's best version of bluetooth. Also, reps from BMW NA customer relations monitor that board.

I saw the attachment on roadfly.org and my phone (Ericsson t39m) is supported. No luck pairing. Thanks for the tip, though.

MPoWeRMAN
01-10-2005, 03:02 PM
you could have a bad module, ask for module number 84 21 6 945 387, that one should work better, you might have to contact customer relations to get them to send you that part, but if you make a stink about it, you will get it, they have to make it work for you

hecklerz
01-10-2005, 03:18 PM
Can I get the definitive answer on pairing my mobile phone with the X3 telephone via bluetooth. I've read all the previous threads on this and other message boards and their attachments. Nothing works! Is there a BMW rep. monitoring this site?

Hi,

I don't know what you've tried so far, but I had a similar issue with my '05 325i. Make sure you have a card in your owners packet (booklet of manuals and other car info) that has pairing instructions and a pass key. This is what finally convinced the tech at my dealership that I actually had the module installed already. What was required for me to get the BT working was a new software download ($70). Right after, my phone immediately "saw" the car and began the pairing routine. Hope this may help. Good luck!


p.s. see my other post on my problems getting Bluetooth to work properly for more info. There were some very helpful replies to my question.

exthree
01-10-2005, 04:14 PM
Was it a download for the phone or the X3 Assist module?

bfeldstein
01-10-2005, 04:23 PM
I emailed BMW Customer Relations and asked them for a list of phones that have full functionality with the BMW Bluetooth feature on my 2005 X3. Here is their reply:

The phones tested and currently approved for full functionality with our BMW Bluetooth feature are:

-Motorola V600 (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Motorola V710 (Verizon) expected to be compatible when Verizon implements new software
-Siemens S56 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T616 (AT&T)
-Sony Ericsson T637 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T68i (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Sony Ericsson T608 (Sprint)
-Sony Ericsson T610 (T Mobile)

Keep in mind we are constantly working to test and approve new phones to stay current with the wireless market. Please stay in touch with us through our website, http://www.bmwusa.com and our network of authorized BMW centers for future updates.

We appreciate that you have chosen BMW for your new vehicle purchase. If you have any further questions, please respond to this e-mail or contact the Customer Relations and Services Department at 1-800-831-1117, Monday through Friday from 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M., Eastern Standard Time.

lbalk
02-06-2005, 09:55 AM
I just purchased a 2005 X3 3.01 I struggled with the pairing and was told by the dealer I could have either the BMW assist or the blue tooth to work with my phone. The sales rep told me differently but I could not make it work. I called BMW and they told me I could use both but they could not instruct me how to do it. Frustrated a friend found this forum and I saw one set of instructions that was vague as to referring to a X3 and Blue tooth but I tried it and it worked.

Bottom line you can activate the Blue tooth on a 2005 X3 with BMW assist. To do the pairing you must do it within the first two minutes of turning the car on. The engine can be running. It works and its cool. Thank you to who ever wrote the notes.

One of the other things I was told I can not do is have the Sirius radio and Ipd on the same vehicle. I am going to post this question on another thread but from what I have read it seems like I may be able to get this by connecting the IPOD to the changer interface. Which would be better anyway because it is closer than the glove box, if anyone has more information please let me know.

exthree
02-06-2005, 02:15 PM
Did you use one of the "approved" bluetooth enabled phones listed above in the thread? I also saw the instructions to pair my phone within a few minutes of turning on the key, but that did not work. If you have any further insights, please share them with us.

lbalk
02-06-2005, 06:43 PM
Did you use one of the "approved" bluetooth enabled phones listed above in the thread? I also saw the instructions to pair my phone within a few minutes of turning on the key, but that did not work. If you have any further insights, please share them with us.



I never looked at the list but I have a Motorolla V551 from Cingular. Its pretty cool the way it works. I did have one problem so far where the radio would not come back, even thought the phone was disconnected. I had to power down the phone to make it work.

bfeldstein
02-13-2005, 04:52 PM
I just tried pairing my Sony Ericsson T637 with my 2005 X3 with BMW Assist and nav system. I was instruced by my phone to enter the Bluetooth passkey, which I did. Receiving calls and talking handsfree seems to work just fine. But on the nav screen, I keep seeing this message that says "Telephone Directory is loading", and it's still present after 5-10 mins. My telephone directory only has 8 names, so it shouldn't take that long. Has anyone experienced this?

xspeedy
02-13-2005, 06:51 PM
I just tried pairing my Sony Ericsson T637 with my 2005 X3 with BMW Assist and nav system. I was instruced by my phone to enter the Bluetooth passkey, which I did. Receiving calls and talking handsfree seems to work just fine. But on the nav screen, I keep seeing this message that says "Telephone Directory is loading", and it's still present after 5-10 mins. My telephone directory only has 8 names, so it shouldn't take that long. Has anyone experienced this?

It takes forever. Just let it go.

lbalk
02-13-2005, 07:15 PM
It takes forever. Just let it go.


I had the same experience. It took for ever the first couple of times I tried and I kept giving up. Then all of a sudden it was just there. Go figure.

Has anyone firgured an easy way to move the call back to the phone when you are getting out of the car ? The only way I was able to make it work was to plug the headset in to the phone. When you do that is switches back to the headset, unplug the headset and it moves back to the phone.

USMCAg00
02-14-2005, 08:12 AM
Ok, I went through the steps and keyed in the Passkey. My Blackberry (7100t) recognizes the BMW (I see the car in the bluetooth list) so it appears to have paired. But I can't figure out how to use it. Whenever I hit the R/T button, I get a message on the radio to "Activate Phone". But, when I instruct the phone to connect to the BMW, nothing happens. When I hit the button with the face icon with waves, nothing happens?

What am I doing wrong? :dunno:

bfeldstein
02-14-2005, 09:40 AM
I got to the same point and thought that it wasn't working. I had my wife call my cell phone from inside the house while I stayed in the car. As soon as she called, I heard it ringing from the car's speakerphone. When I pressed the steering wheel button, I was able to talk and hear her. I also tried the reverse. I called her from the car. As soon as the phone started calling, I heard it ringing from the car's speakerphones.

USMCAg00
02-14-2005, 12:06 PM
I got to the same point and thought that it wasn't working. I had my wife call my cell phone from inside the house while I stayed in the car. As soon as she called, I heard it ringing from the car's speakerphone. When I pressed the steering wheel button, I was able to talk and hear her. I also tried the reverse. I called her from the car. As soon as the phone started calling, I heard it ringing from the car's speakerphones.

Thanks! Which button am I supposed to use?

exthree
02-14-2005, 01:41 PM
I emailed BMW Customer Relations and asked them for a list of phones that have full functionality with the BMW Bluetooth feature on my 2005 X3. Here is their reply:

The phones tested and currently approved for full functionality with our BMW Bluetooth feature are:

-Motorola V600 (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Motorola V710 (Verizon) expected to be compatible when Verizon implements new software
-Siemens S56 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T616 (AT&T)
-Sony Ericsson T637 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T68i (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Sony Ericsson T608 (Sprint)
-Sony Ericsson T610 (T Mobile)

Keep in mind we are constantly working to test and approve new phones to stay current with the wireless market. Please stay in touch with us through our website, http://www.bmwusa.com and our network of authorized BMW centers for future updates.

We appreciate that you have chosen BMW for your new vehicle purchase. If you have any further questions, please respond to this e-mail or contact the Customer Relations and Services Department at 1-800-831-1117, Monday through Friday from 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M., Eastern Standard Time.



Should the Ericsson T39m work with the X3 Bluetooth?

vpm
02-17-2005, 05:22 PM
I emailed BMW Customer Relations and asked them for a list of phones that have full functionality with the BMW Bluetooth feature on my 2005 X3. Here is their reply:

The phones tested and currently approved for full functionality with our BMW Bluetooth feature are:

-Motorola V600 (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Motorola V710 (Verizon) expected to be compatible when Verizon implements new software
-Siemens S56 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T616 (AT&T)
-Sony Ericsson T637 (AT&T, Cingular)
-Sony Ericsson T68i (AT&T, Cingular, T Mobile)
-Sony Ericsson T608 (Sprint)
-Sony Ericsson T610 (T Mobile)

Keep in mind we are constantly working to test and approve new phones to stay current with the wireless market. Please stay in touch with us through our website, http://www.bmwusa.com and our network of authorized BMW centers for future updates.

We appreciate that you have chosen BMW for your new vehicle purchase. If you have any further questions, please respond to this e-mail or contact the Customer Relations and Services Department at 1-800-831-1117, Monday through Friday from 9:00 A.M. to 9:00 P.M., Eastern Standard Time.

The Motorola Razor - Was added to the list of phones that are compatable with the BMW
Bluetooth. They are calling it the Razor V3

lbalk
02-17-2005, 05:24 PM
As of this post do not purchase the treo 650 . It is not compatable. I am getting ready to return mine. When I make or recieve a call the phone reboots.

I also have the Motorolla V551 and it works perfetcly.

USMCAg00
02-21-2005, 03:26 PM
Here's a question/quandry:

Checked the list on roadfly and saw that my Blackberry was compatible.

Found info on another forum site that I needed to download the updated software versions for my desktop and handheld from T-Mobile's site.

BMW sends me a response saying that the Blackberry is NOT compatible.

I find that I can make or receive a call within the first minute or so after I turn the vehicle on, but not after that.

What gives? :dunno:

askotlen
02-25-2005, 06:29 AM
Can I get the definitive answer on pairing my mobile phone with the X3 telephone via bluetooth. I've read all the previous threads on this and other message boards and their attachments. Nothing works! Is there a BMW rep. monitoring this site?
When trying to pair the V710 phone to the car the phone recognizes the car and asks for the pin #. When I put it into the phone I get "invalid pin" on the phone. Before I got the software update on the phone it paired although it didn't work with the buttons on the steering wheel.

DeLo_X3
02-25-2005, 08:56 AM
I have a 05 X3 3.0 without NAV or BMW assist. I do have the steering wheel buttons however. What is involved to get Bluetooth installed? Would I need the Bluetooth module and the microphone module?

BMWNA
03-01-2005, 02:34 PM
Iím with BMW of North America, LLC. We're proud to announce the launch of our Bluetooth microsite accessible through the BMW USA Website! For detailed information about Bluetooth, compatible phones, vehicle information and answers to frequently asked questions please visit our Bluetooth microsite at http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth. If you prefer, you can call us at 800-831-1117, and please mention Reference #200506000544 so that we can help you more efficiently.

Bluetooth microsite (http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth)

exthree
03-01-2005, 04:39 PM
Thank you for this new micro website and official information. regarding bluetooth. I wish I had this when I took delivery of my X3 in December. Notwithstanding, it has cleared up a lot of questions and antedotes about bluetooth and BMW.

Now can we get an "official" answer regarding the, "...rear windows drop 5" with driver express up..." post?

M-PIRE
03-01-2005, 09:16 PM
Unfortunately I am stuck on Sprint for the next year. If I want a bluetooth phone I have 2 choices. The current LG 325 something and the retired (extinct) T608 from Sony/Ericcson. I stopped by the Sprint store today and the sales rep was excited to see it work so we took the store demo unit out to my new X3 to test it out. The phone found the car, authenticated with the PIN, and connected. It worked slick as snot. If I turned the car off, the phone disconnected, turn it on and it connects again... Sweet!!!!

Problem. The dang R/T button keeps telling me to activate phone. The demo phone only has three, count them....3!...phone book entries. We waited in the car for about 5 minutes with the engine running and never got the message to go away.

Does anyone know if the LG phone will eventually integrate? Should I wait longer? I'm not too excited about plopping down $230 to upgrade my phone and have it not work with the car.

Does anyone have personal experience with the T608? I see a few on ebay and would be willing to go that route if it will work for sure.

Thanks folks.

stevenw66
03-02-2005, 02:11 PM
One of the other things I was told I can not do is have the Sirius radio and Ipd on the same vehicle. I am going to post this question on another thread but from what I have read it seems like I may be able to get this by connecting the IPOD to the changer interface. Which would be better anyway because it is closer than the glove box, if anyone has more information please let me know.


You can have both Sirius and Ipod if and only if you use the Ice Link module.

BMWNA
03-09-2005, 11:34 AM
Thank you for this new micro website and official information. regarding bluetooth. I wish I had this when I took delivery of my X3 in December. Notwithstanding, it has cleared up a lot of questions and antedotes about bluetooth and BMW.

Now can we get an "official" answer regarding the, "...rear windows drop 5" with driver express up..." post?

I'm with BMW of North America, LLC. I've passed this message on to a BMW NA Customer Relations Representative who will be in touch with you soon.

M-PIRE
03-09-2005, 04:52 PM
This is the latest BMW bluetooth manual for cars with the I-Bus system. I believe this is applies to late model E46, E53, E83 and E85 cars.

http://www.ebizinc.net/bt-ibus-book.pdf (4.23mb)

Hope this helps.

If anyone needs a Sony Ericsson T608 for use on Sprint, I have 4 that are new in box, never opened.

Long live the M-Pire!

askotlen
03-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Iím with BMW of North America, LLC. We're proud to announce the launch of our Bluetooth microsite accessible through the BMW USA Website! For detailed information about Bluetooth, compatible phones, vehicle information and answers to frequently asked questions please visit our Bluetooth microsite at http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth. If you prefer, you can call us at 800-831-1117, and please mention Reference #200506000544 so that we can help you more efficiently.

Bluetooth microsite (http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth)

My Motorola V710 with Verizon works beautifully in my 2005 X3 since I got he software upgrade from Verizon.
Having spent much time in various forums and on the phone with BMW the key to getting my phone to work with the bluetooth in the X3 was pairing the phone with the car within 2 minutes of moving the key in the ignition from the 0 position to any other position. Although I found the microsite useful references to the "bluetooth manual" or the "owners manual" were useless since there were no manuels provided. My suggestion to BMW is to add to the microsite specific instructions on how to accomplish the pairing and eliminate the references to the manuels which weren't provided

blackM3
03-16-2005, 05:55 PM
My Motorola V710 with Verizon works beautifully in my 2005 X3 since I got he software upgrade from Verizon.
Having spent much time in various forums and on the phone with BMW the key to getting my phone to work with the bluetooth in the X3 was pairing the phone with the car within 2 minutes of moving the key in the ignition from the 0 position to any other position. Although I found the microsite useful references to the "bluetooth manual" or the "owners manual" were useless since there were no manuels provided. My suggestion to BMW is to add to the microsite specific instructions on how to accomplish the pairing and eliminate the references to the manuels which weren't provided

I agree. I just took delivery of a 2005 M3 last week (march 10th), and it has bmw assist with navigation. The only thing I received with it was the passkey. No instructions what so ever. I dont have a blue tooth phone yet, but my friend does. We tried it, got it paired (entered the passkey), but then it hung while saying "Telephone Directory is loading". Thats as far as it would go. I cant believe they would charge $70 to upgrade the software when it was dead on arrival if that be the case.

M-PIRE
03-16-2005, 06:37 PM
BlackM3 - You were on the right track. It takes FOR FRIGGIN EVER for the phonebook to load. My new T608 has only 5 entries in it so far and takes about 3 minutes to update the phonebook. Try again with your buddy's phone but wait. It may take as long as 20 min if it is a large phonebook.

Also, check my post a little earlier in this thread. I provided a link to the bluetooth manual you need.

ffchun
03-28-2005, 09:15 PM
I had success with my Moto V600, however can you explain to me how to use the "Top 8" that is displayed on the screen for telephone numbers. How do I insert my 8 phone numbers, or does it happen automaically. Need help...thanks

My Motorola V710 with Verizon works beautifully in my 2005 X3 since I got he software upgrade from Verizon.
Having spent much time in various forums and on the phone with BMW the key to getting my phone to work with the bluetooth in the X3 was pairing the phone with the car within 2 minutes of moving the key in the ignition from the 0 position to any other position. Although I found the microsite useful references to the "bluetooth manual" or the "owners manual" were useless since there were no manuels provided. My suggestion to BMW is to add to the microsite specific instructions on how to accomplish the pairing and eliminate the references to the manuels which weren't provided :p :p :p

Dygital
04-03-2005, 12:31 PM
When trying to pair the V710 phone to the car the phone recognizes the car and asks for the pin #. When I put it into the phone I get "invalid pin" on the phone. Before I got the software update on the phone it paired although it didn't work with the buttons on the steering wheel.

I am having the same problem. Worked just fine with SuperDave's firmware, but when I reprogrammed with Verizon's new software, I keep getting "invalid pin" although I type in the PassKey off of the BMW card. What gives?

MPoWeRMAN
04-03-2005, 01:07 PM
I have the Sony Ericsson T608, and have module that I talked about eariler in the thread, and apparantly, it is the only module that will download the phone book! I had the same problem as you with my original module, everything would work except the phonebook. ask your dealer to get you that module, and you should be fine, as for the LG 325, it works all except the phone book on all bmw bluetooth modules. I had my work done at BMW of Palm Springs, CA, see if your service tech can call Mike (service tech) over at my dealership, he knows everything about BMW bluetooth, and should be able to help, but without this module, it wont work!!!

ffchun
04-23-2005, 03:53 PM
I just purchased a 2005 X3 3.01 I struggled with the pairing and was told by the dealer I could have either the BMW assist or the blue tooth to work with my phone. The sales rep told me differently but I could not make it work. I called BMW and they told me I could use both but they could not instruct me how to do it. Frustrated a friend found this forum and I saw one set of instructions that was vague as to referring to a X3 and Blue tooth but I tried it and it worked.

Bottom line you can activate the Blue tooth on a 2005 X3 with BMW assist. To do the pairing you must do it within the first two minutes of turning the car on. The engine can be running. It works and its cool. Thank you to who ever wrote the notes.

One of the other things I was told I can not do is have the Sirius radio and Ipd on the same vehicle. I am going to post this question on another thread but from what I have read it seems like I may be able to get this by connecting the IPOD to the changer interface. Which would be better anyway because it is closer than the glove box, if anyone has more information please let me know.

Where did you find the notes to activate your cell phone ???

ffchun
04-23-2005, 04:17 PM
Iím with BMW of North America, LLC. We're proud to announce the launch of our Bluetooth microsite accessible through the BMW USA Website! For detailed information about Bluetooth, compatible phones, vehicle information and answers to frequently asked questions please visit our Bluetooth microsite at http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth. If you prefer, you can call us at 800-831-1117, and please mention Reference #200506000544 so that we can help you more efficiently.

Bluetooth microsite (http://www.bmwusa.com/bluetooth)

Setting up my BT was very frustrating, considering there is no information in the manual in setting it up. I just bought a 2005 X3 and you would think that the manual would cover this topic, regardless of the type of phone you have. Save some time, and either "train" your dealership, or provide a manual, or post the information.....


:mad: :mad:

bluetoothblues
05-11-2005, 06:51 PM
Despite all the great info on this forum, I just can't get my Verizon 710 with the latest firmware, 1.40.0R, to pair with my 3.0 X3 2005. I tried two phones. I tried turning ignition from 0 to 1, pressing the r/t button, pressing the voice button before and afer turning for 0 to 1. I did everything right according to the various docs here and elsewhere. Nothing worked. So I brought it to the dealer - they said it would take 2 minutes to do. An hour and a half later, after trying everything I did, they are clueless. So now after getting in trouble for the extended lunch hour, I have the bring the car back and leave it for them to diddle with some more. I'm hoping that someone from BMW will comment here. I suspect that there were early versions of software on the X3 that didn't work, but no one is sharing this info with dealers and customers. I picked my X3 up in November. I was told it was the first '05 X3 with Bluetooth they had got in. It has a date of 11/04 on the drivers door panel. I guess I have to bring it in again and waist more time while the engineers stumble upon a solution. Being an IT guy, I know its one of three things: Its broken, the firmware is wrong, or there's a step that I can find in the documentation anywhere. By the way, I called the number the BMW guy posted and after choosing customer service I waited for a few minutes - it transferred - then hung me up! :mad: So for now I'm still bluetoothless, but I'll take and ideas anyone has to get me out of the bluetoothblues!

vonzipper
05-12-2005, 10:55 AM
Just curious but have you turned on bluetooth power in your motorola v710 and entered the passkey code for the car?

pps-325xit
05-12-2005, 12:32 PM
Wife has a V710 that actually sometimes work too well with the Bluetooth. We had to go through two phone sets (first one would not allow firmware to be updated). Pairing instructions can be found .here (http://members.roadfly.com/PPS-325xiT/BT_Pairing_05.pdf) There are times we don't want phone to pair with the X3, but seems to have a mond of its own and always want to be be connected (i.e. it will re-attempt to pair beyond the initial 2 minutes).

bluetoothblues
05-12-2005, 03:08 PM
Just curious but have you turned on bluetooth power in your motorola v710 and entered the passkey code for the car?

Yes, but I never actually get the "Activate Telephone to appears on the MID or Board Monitor". It seems like it never gets ready to broadcast to the phone. The phone won't ask for thepasskey until it discovers the X3 is there. i know the bluetooth transceiver in the phone is working since I can connect to my PDA with it.

bluetoothblues
05-12-2005, 03:14 PM
Wife has a V710 that actually sometimes work too well with the Bluetooth. We had to go through two phone sets (first one would not allow firmware to be updated). Pairing instructions can be found .here (http://members.roadfly.com/PPS-325xiT/BT_Pairing_05.pdf) There are times we don't want phone to pair with the X3, but seems to have a mond of its own and always want to be be connected (i.e. it will re-attempt to pair beyond the initial 2 minutes).

I would think that you would just turn the Bluetooth power off for the phone that you don't want to pair. That would be on the 710: settings-connections-bluetoothlink-setup Power: off.

vonzipper
05-12-2005, 03:57 PM
I would think that you would just turn the Bluetooth power off for the phone that you don't want to pair. That would be on the 710: settings-connections-bluetoothlink-setup Power: off.


Even after having the phone search for bluetooth items it doesnt see the x3? If so the only other thing i can think of is the bluetooth might not be turned on in the x3, even though it is supposed to come from the factory that way.

jdeday
05-12-2005, 08:35 PM
You can also check out the site: http://www.bmwtransact.com/bluetooth/

I have a Motorola V710 and it works perfect with my 2005 X3.

Jeff